Could it get any worse???

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Nemek wrote:

If anything, I think the strike tile double-tap would be removed/reduced. It's an odd concept for a support character to be able to do twice as much damage as everybody else on the team.

But, she just has so little health and not really good on defense, that I don't really see anything happening to her any time soon. Plus, the wolvie nerf gave her a small indirect nerf, anyway.

I dunno about this, it makes my blood boil when she steals 100 HP worth of AP with three pink matches.

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Amen. It's kind of unfair for a character to completely prevent you from using abilities while charging her own. Just make recon cost more and I'd would be ok.

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Typhon13 wrote:

Amen. It's kind of unfair for a character to completely prevent you from using abilities while charging her own. Just make recon cost more and I'd would be ok.

What? Hell no she's fine the way she is. No more freaking nerfs. What's unfair is charging 100HP for the +3 all boost

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She was fine before the Thor nerf, because he was really the only two star who could take her out fast enough to prevent the recon. Now that he's been trashed recon is overpowered. Nerfs only lead to more nerfs, unfortunately

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She's immensely popular because she heals. That's her and Spider-Man, in a game where people always want to preserve their uptime because health packs are limited. Even teams she or Spidey aren't on, they're probably getting subbed in for Prologue healing every other match. If there's any reason they'd nuke her, it'd be because they've decided they don't really want easy healing in their game, after all.

Aggressive Recon at 3 is good, fast suppression and AP gen if you're patient with it, but not as good as The Hood (god help you against both at once if you don't get a kill off in a hurry). She's incredibly squishy even on offense, and the signature Espionage strike tile doubling thing everyone loves her so much for requires you have her match purple, blue, probably black and pretty likely environment, for good measure. This translates into her often unavoidably being out front, and dying quite easily. You wouldn't need her healing so much in a typical match, if not for herself. It's also just been indirectly nerfed by toning dear old **Wolv down. Finally, the match priority requirement eventually semi-obsoletes her as you move towards using all 3*s. I think that's a pretty stellar piece of design as it stands, but let's not start throwing fits about her getting nerfed at least until after it's announced, eh?

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Veracity wrote:

She's immensely popular because she heals. That's her and Spider-Man, in a game where people always want to preserve their uptime because health packs are limited. Even teams she or Spidey aren't on, they're probably getting subbed in for Prologue healing every other match. If there's any reason they'd nuke her, it'd be because they've decided they don't really want easy healing in their game, after all.

Aggressive Recon at 3 is good, fast suppression and AP gen if you're patient with it, but not as good as The Hood (god help you against both at once if you don't get a kill off in a hurry). She's incredibly squishy even on offense, and the signature Espionage strike tile doubling thing everyone loves her so much for requires you have her match purple, blue, probably black and pretty likely environment, for good measure. This translates into her often unavoidably being out front, and dying quite easily. You wouldn't need her healing so much in a typical match, if not for herself. It's also just been indirectly nerfed by toning dear old **Wolv down. Finally, the match priority requirement eventually semi-obsoletes her as you move towards using all 3*s. I think that's a pretty stellar piece of design as it stands, but let's not start throwing fits about her getting nerfed at least until after it's announced, eh?

it amazes me how some people are already whining to nerf OBW (not you, you get it). The people doing the "wahhhh please nerf character x cause they are beating me up!!!" crying are the freaking ones who have landed us where we are.

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justaplayer wrote:

it amazes me how some people are already whining to nerf OBW (not you, you get it). The people doing the "wahhhh please nerf character x cause they are beating me up!!!" crying are the freaking ones who have landed us where we are.

For the record I'm not whining about her power, I'm just grieving for her in advance

Also waiting for hell to unleash on the boards as soon as this is announced

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Il Palazzo wrote:

justaplayer wrote:

it amazes me how some people are already whining to nerf OBW (not you, you get it). The people doing the "wahhhh please nerf character x cause they are beating me up!!!" crying are the freaking ones who have landed us where we are.

For the record I'm not whining about her power, I'm just grieving for her in advance

Also waiting for hell to unleash on the boards as soon as this is announced

Same here. I don't want her nerfed, I just see it happening.

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If they would put Thor and wolvie back, no one would complain for obw to be nerfed

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they could make almost all progression rewards unattainable. instead of just half of them.

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justtheessentials wrote:

they could make almost all progression rewards unattainable. instead of just half of them.

You win sir. Nice first post.

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The could also make it worse by charging ISO to log in or ISO if we break tiles. Being facetious here lol

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They can justify removing most of the Iso from pve events but calling it an increase showing a big Iso prize for 2,5% of the players (whose net gain will still be abysmal compared to the other events).

Oh wait...

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Worst idea yet: everything costs hp, but we still get iso as rewards. The horror.

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In reality, i don't think spidey is overpowered. He's a 3 star character and he's freaaaaking hard to get. I see a lot of spideys with few blue covers and a ton of purple. How the heck does that happen? Purple seems to be the rarest to me. Also, even with an overpowered level 100 spidey, I cannot kill a team of level 70 dudes like the maggia. And added to this, they will nerf spidey? He's not even that strong. He can barely do damage as it is. His healing is already half the power it used to be.

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pulis wrote:

In reality, i don't think spidey is overpowered. He's a 3 star character and he's freaaaaking hard to get. I see a lot of spideys with few blue covers and a ton of purple. How the heck does that happen? Purple seems to be the rarest to me. Also, even with an overpowered level 100 spidey, I cannot kill a team of level 70 dudes like the maggia. And added to this, they will nerf spidey? He's not even that strong. He can barely do damage as it is. His healing is already half the power it used to be.

Just bump up the ap in his web snare abil by one, that's all he needs. You will always have to have a lucky board to get off the stun lock. Messing with his healing and defense tiles would be petty and just mean.

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Obw doesn't have little health, especially not now with the Wolvie Healing Factor nerf. Thor, Ares, Cap, Moonstone are the notable 2-stars with more health. Neither of those characters can heal, and one of them inflicts self damage.

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Typhon13 wrote:

She was fine before the Thor nerf, because he was really the only two star who could take her out fast enough to prevent the recon. Now that he's been trashed recon is overpowered. Nerfs only lead to more nerfs, unfortunately

"A nerf for a nerf makes the whole world nerfed" -Buffatma Gandhi

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soenottelling wrote:

Typhon13 wrote:

She was fine before the Thor nerf, because he was really the only two star who could take her out fast enough to prevent the recon. Now that he's been trashed recon is overpowered. Nerfs only lead to more nerfs, unfortunately

"A nerf for a nerf makes the whole world nerfed" -Buffatma Gandhi

I thought that was Martin nerfer king lol.

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Typhon13 wrote:

soenottelling wrote:

Typhon13 wrote:

She was fine before the Thor nerf, because he was really the only two star who could take her out fast enough to prevent the recon. Now that he's been trashed recon is overpowered. Nerfs only lead to more nerfs, unfortunately

"A nerf for a nerf makes the whole world nerfed" -Buffatma Gandhi

I thought that was Martin nerfer king lol.

Too soon..