Ambivalent feelings: tokens as compensation

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  • Unknown
    Unknown
    The tokens have value, just not very much. I think almost everyone thought 50 HP for Ultron token was a good deal, so they're worth at least 200 HP. It's just that 300 HP for all the headache isn't very much, and that's before we start trying to figure out any potential losses from the events.
  • Vladdy
    Vladdy Posts: 130 Tile Toppler
    Phantron wrote:
    The tokens have value, just not very much. I think almost everyone thought 50 HP for Ultron token was a good deal, so they're worth at least 200 HP. It's just that 300 HP for all the headache isn't very much, and that's before we start trying to figure out any potential losses from the events.

    True, a wanted 3* cover is worth 1250 HP and a (wanted) 4* cover even 2500 HP.
    I think it is weird that some players get that amount and others do not. Assuming everybody had the same problems (not true, i know) this seems not right.
  • Dauntless74
    Dauntless74 Posts: 33 Just Dropped In
    HulkBuster black cover, Nick Fury yellow cover, Beast yellow cover plus a 2* So feeling ok for now. Cheers, guys.
  • scottee
    scottee Posts: 1,610 Chairperson of the Boards
    Sorry guys, I upset the curve. 2900 + 100 HP.

    Maybe I'm not actually good at this game. Maybe I'm just lucky.
  • firethorne
    firethorne Posts: 1,505 Chairperson of the Boards
    star.pngstar.pngstar.png Mohawk and 3 star.pngstar.png characters I didn't want. Storm is better than nothing, but not what I'd have picked, even if you'd exclude four stars.
  • spatenfloot
    spatenfloot Posts: 665 Critical Contributor
    I think a ten pack plus a QS and SW would have been appropriate given all the problems.

    For the record, I got all 2 stars.
  • Chief270
    Chief270 Posts: 137
    fmftint wrote:
    1k iso8.png camp here. not very satisfying
    ^
  • IamTheBiggs
    IamTheBiggs Posts: 215 Tile Toppler
    Jeebus, people! The point isn't what you got from the tokens, it's the tokens themselves (and coins) that are the compensation.

    For those who got decent pulls, good for you, now run along, be happy and be quiet.

    For those who are b****ing about the tokens themselves, seriously, get over the overtly bloated sense of self-entitlement.

    For those who have stated a reasonable argument as to why the tokens themselves may not be enough for the issues caused, hats off to you. I think that you may be the most reasonable and thoughtful among this thread.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Do you want to know the correct resolution to this?

    300 HP across the board. The cost of 4 prize packs and the 100 HP missed from the clears.

    Instead, some get awesome prizing and others get 1000 Iso.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    All 2*s here... [crickets chirping...]

    I know they're free, but this is pretty much why I said earlier that I'd rather get nothing than more tokens. The excitement and anticipation of receiving something to mitigate the frustration of being shut out of a bunch of events, and then... well, yeah, 4 2*s.

    I was fine before I got the tokens, but man, was that let-down a killer. lol

    On the positive side, I did appreciate the extra HP!

    DBC
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Vladdy wrote:
    Phantron wrote:
    The tokens have value, just not very much. I think almost everyone thought 50 HP for Ultron token was a good deal, so they're worth at least 200 HP. It's just that 300 HP for all the headache isn't very much, and that's before we start trying to figure out any potential losses from the events.

    True, a wanted 3* cover is worth 1250 HP and a (wanted) 4* cover even 2500 HP.
    I think it is weird that some players get that amount and others do not. Assuming everybody had the same problems (not true, i know) this seems not right.

    I don't think 500 HP for all the headache + potential losses is asking too much, and 100 HP + 4 tokens is likely below that (tokens are worth more than 50 HP, but not a lot more). Of course some people are going to get considerably more than 500 HP of value out of their tokens but that's just luck. It's funny because I spoke out a lot about how this event sucks and then on my first Ultron token in part 2 of Ultron I pulled a Hulkbuster and I changed my mind, and then I realized the two events have nothing to do with each other to begin with. That is, I was due for good luck regardless of what happened on part 1 so just because it was my turn to get lucky doesn't mean the past event should be forgiven. Of course, it's easier to forgive a mistake when you happen to be on a lucky streak, but that's hardly how you're supposed to address a widespread outage problem. At least the offer isn't insulting low. It's low enough to be disappointed but not so low to be insulted and I guess it'll do. By the way I pulled 2900 HP and a 3* cover I need out of the 4 tokens, but again just because today's my lucky day doesn't mean those 4 tokens normally have a value of 4150 HP.
  • wymtime
    wymtime Posts: 3,762 Chairperson of the Boards
    I got the 4 tokens and sold all 4 pulls for a all ISO. I got an IW blue which I already have 5 of. I am looking at it this way if this is for server issue for round 1 of Ultron, it is given to all players. So if we were able to play D3 is saying we had the chance to earn 4 Ultron Tokens 100 HP. For those who missed out on getting the SW cover my question would be did you send in a ticket for the SW or Quicksilver cover did you send in a ticket for your team completing round 8 or saying you were not able to complete the Ultron Prime. I was lucky and got everything in Ultron round 1 so this is just extra for me.

    If these tokens are for Ultrons round 2 Health and making it so under 2% of the player base got 3 covers I have a little different opinion on that.

    I will also say this I think the practice of giving tokens for compensation should change. The problem with Tokens is some people get useful 4* and some people get ISO. The 100 HP felt good and for that Thank you D3. It costs me 700 HP for a roster slot so all the Hp I can get helps. I don't know what the right type of compensation should be, but I don't think Tokens are the right approach. It might be 100-200 HP and 1000-5000 ISO. It might be a SW cover that was the last progression. It might be the black HB no one got. Any of these might be the right answer, and would as close to the same for everyone. Yes someone will have 5 of that 1 cover, but it will be close. As the Op said there is just too much randomness to the tokens, and as fun as they are to open, WEE 250,500,1000 ISO!! I think there are some better options.
    Thanks for th HP, thanks for the Extra ISO. Next server crash, and yes there will be another, please look at something more balanced.
  • wuweird
    wuweird Posts: 75 Match Maker
    Yeah, I'm out. All of the recent changes have been sucking the fun out of the game immensely, and this tone-deaf response to criticism is the final straw.

    I was on target for 3-4 3*s in various events, I end up with four 2*s as "compensation". Others who weren't even participating get 3* & 4*s for doing nothing.

    It's ****. I've never played a game that punishes people for playing as much as MPQ.
  • Pwuz_
    Pwuz_ Posts: 1,214 Chairperson of the Boards
    1000 Iso, while it's not much is better than nothing.

    It would have been nice had they issued special tokens that had better draw rates than the normal Ultron tokens. A guaranteed cover would have been even better, but the fact many of us received 4 2* covers indicates a problem with that compensation. Many of us would have managed at least one more if not multiple 3* covers had these servers been acting normally.
  • Punisher5784
    Punisher5784 Posts: 3,845 Chairperson of the Boards
    Although it's still luck based, I still think we should have been rewarded a 10pk. 4 tokens does not replace lost covers from the PVE and PVP events that occurred at the same time
  • El Satanno
    El Satanno Posts: 1,005 Chairperson of the Boards
    I'm one of the surely numerous people who got a grip of 2* pulls. Sure I would have liked to pull something more valuable than 1k Iso, but whatever. I'm happy enough that we got something. Is it enough to make up for the headache caused by the outage? Probably not. Still, we weren't just left out to dry. That, taken in isolation, is admirable enough for me to just say "thanks" and let it go. There are plenty of other issues that we can sound off on that can maybe get more traction.
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    I thought they said these four tokens are just for the Ultron 1 problems and they were still looking into compensation for the other events that were effected.
  • Malcrof
    Malcrof Posts: 5,971 Chairperson of the Boards
    Cayasha wrote:
    I thought they said these four tokens are just for the Ultron 1 problems and they were still looking into compensation for the other events that were effected.

    i Still have an open ticket on Combined arms.. took 60+ fights to get to 400 pts, missed out on most of the progression and most of the rewards because it was nothing but 1 and 2 point seed teams..

    First 3 were 30 each, then 24. so almost 1/2 of my progression was the first 6 matches.. those last 54 or so, just brutal grinding

    Leaderboard was around a 70 way tie at 400 points. The match that brought me to 401 got me 99th place for a cover, looks like most people gave up. Winner of the slice had 421 points. I did not have the time or inclination to do another 20 1 point matches.

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