i hate 12 hour subs

CaptainFreaky

Maybe if I join a band I will call it that: "I hate 12 hour subs" (or IHTHS for short). We'd play grunge rock of course.
There - just had to get that off my chest.





PS - Devs - PLEASE make ALL PVE subs exactly 24 hours in length - I mean really, how hard is it?

Monochromize

Yeah, i'm placed great right now, then as soon as the work week starts i'm pooched.

Boourns

rixmith

But I love all the ISO and tokens those 12 hour subs generate...

Yes, I'd also prefer that all subs be 24 hours, and that there always be an end time that is convenient for me, and that all PvE's either run completely during the week or completely on the weekend. But until then... I love those tokens and ISO!

Unknown

You get the same ISO and tokens, it would just take twice as long. I never understood this argument for 12h PvE subs. "But think of the tokens you get!" If the subs were 24h long you would get exactly the same tokens just after 24h instead of 12h.

Sure if all PvE was like this (thank god it's not) you would earn them twice as fast, but since it isn't I'd much rather have my 9 PM end time not magically switch to 9 AM and make a 6 AM grind I wasn't ready for.

IHTHS

chaos01

Image this PVE being 9 days long. I would like want to quit at the end.

Arondite

Monochromize wrote:

Yeah, i'm placed great right now, then as soon as the work week starts i'm pooched.

Boourns

I'm in the opposite situation - I'm number 9 right now. I expect when the work week kicks in, I'll slide into first.

Then again, I got a super easy bracket by sniping a new bracket right as sub 1 closed, so I was one of ~30 people who even played in the first pair of subs. And I can often play at work.

sinnerjfl

Yup, 12 hour subs are terrible. Feels way too grindy and makes me want to play even less. It is not good, make the subs at
least 24 hours.

igz

Eh. 12 hour subs are not sustainable, what with the whole pretending to have a life and all. But at least most events have longer subs.

I guess its nice for variety. ::shrug::

konannfriends

id prefer something more like 16 hour subs, 12 hour kinda sucks, but atleast i know people arent getting to grind point every two hours so i may find time to grind on a luch break or something and still place well

Eddiemon

Lerysh wrote:

You get the same ISO and tokens, it would just take twice as long. I never understood this argument for 12h PvE subs. "But think of the tokens you get!" If the subs were 24h long you would get exactly the same tokens just after 24h instead of 12h.

For that to be true you would need twice as many missions per sub in the 24 hour version and to hand out twice as many tokens after 24 hours.

Which they generally don't do.

Unknown

12 hours subs were great when they rewarded 100HP for top 10. Those are terrible though. With 2 running at once, you have 4 subs in 24h period and you have to grind them down. To place decent in this event you have to play more 'hardcore' than in old normal PvEs that had 3h refresh timer.

fmftint

IMO the worst thing about 12 hour subs is getting green check marks on every node. Clearing on time then grinding down 5-6 times I still have nodes at 1/4. That is just unacceptable

Unknown

This game, in general, is very unfriendly to people with jobs. The 12 hour subs are only one example of that.

It's weird, because people with jobs are, in all likelihood, more likely to spend money on it.

Unknown

Just Demiurge trolling again, making 8h refresh on 12h subs is ****. Pve is seriously the worst gaming experience MPQ gives

simonsez

Agent Alex wrote:

Pve is seriously the worst gaming experience MPQ gives

Have you played PvP this week??

Unknown

simonsez wrote:

Agent Alex wrote:

Pve is seriously the worst gaming experience MPQ gives

Have you played PvP this week??

Lol
Well last week they were tied but it isnt always the case

Arondite

Idk, I have a job but I certainly dig all the free heroic packs and HP.

slidecage

they should never run 12 hour subs after a gaunlet. Many skip the ganulet or get it done way early just to come back to be exepected to do 12 hour subs. 2 pve in a row i mostly skipped (top reward go enough for me and done)

Malcrof

Honestly, i think 12 hour subs are great. Not everyone works 9-5, not everyone is in the same time zone, not everyone can play for multiple hours a day. These give those people a good chance at gold recruit tokens, and maybe some humility to some "expect" to be top 10 in everything all the time.

Ebolamonkey84

It really depends on what your goals are for the PVE. If you only care about tokens, ISO, and HP, then you probably like the twelve hour subs. If you are trying to get top 10, it might not be as good of an experience for you. Right now, at least in my bracket, you need to play right when the sub opens, 8 hours later, and then 3-5 times per node between that 8 hour and twelve hour mark. The worst part about the 8 hour refresh is that end of sub grind, and shorter subs just exacerbate the issue.

Phillipes

Many of you are forgetting this isn´t only mobile game, there are some of us playing it by Steam.
And that means I need to get up every morning atleast one hour earlier (befor work) to gring atleast essencials.
It is not pleasent to wake up at 05.45 am because of game.
It is 10.50 pm in EU now, and I again need to wake up at that 05.45 am.
YEAH !!