HP + ISO Sale...

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  • If it has not already been pointed out, mpq was nice enough to announce the nerfs before the sale. They could have done it in the opposite order if they were genuinely trying to cash grab people.

    In reality, when you look at mpq ' s history, they are data driven. This means they make decisions based on data. The more people that obtain covers and use combos like winfinite over time leads to sufficient data to make a change. This gives the appearance, especially to high end players, that mpq knows about problems, but waits to milk it for money. In reality, they are just mostly slow to change because they are data driven.

    Take fist for example, they waited until after an event he was not featured in to make sure the overwhelming data was correct, before nerfing him.

    You can question if relying on data is the best way to make decisions, especially when it seems obvious to us players like sentry, winfinite, fist purple, etc., but mpq is not trying to mislead people.

    I think the main reason ppl feel this way is because we feel we don't get sufficient value for our money on those changes. That I agree with, and I feel that is something worth genuinely fighting for.

    They announced it to 10% of their playerbase.

    Not exactly forthcoming if you ask me.
  • _RiO_
    _RiO_ Posts: 1,047 Chairperson of the Boards
    This goes against all forms of ethical business practices.
    It makes me sick. Blegh! icon_mad.gif
  • brisashi
    brisashi Posts: 418 Mover and Shaker
    A week ago I would have been all over this sale. Like so many others, I've been anxiously waiting for it. But now that it's here, and in lieu of all that's happened recently, I feel dirty and, frankly, stupid for even considering buying something.

    My thoughts exactly.

    Nothing but nerfs alongside a ragnarok rework. Would it have been so hard to roll out nerfs with buffs for much needed characters like Beast, IW, and Spiderman?
  • thisone
    thisone Posts: 655 Critical Contributor
    Have bought 2 42 decks since I started playing a couple months back, I'd be tempted to against if not for yengs:

    1. Don't want to risk getting stung by nerfs, to get excited at possibly building an x force (or cage or bp etc) over time only to get moved into mediocrity.
    2. Since I've got most 2* max covered I will end up with a lot of cards I don't need. Iso for covers could use a bump imo.
    3. Scaling has got out of control for me, between scaling and nerfing magneto (who i just got his last purple cover on saturday) it feels like im going backwards and not forwards.

    I loved the game but being encouraged to lose on purpose or not leveling 2* to max to perform better hurts the game way more than overpowered characters imo. Hopefully if these issues get addressed I will start dropping money back into the game. Sadly the fun factor is starting to wane for me in the current state.

    I do love deadpool daily though. More things like that please!
  • slidecage
    slidecage Posts: 3,514 Chairperson of the Boards
    its just too bad they did not have a 50 buck package that gave you 25k (enough for 10 3 star covers) i would of done it. Would max out my cy (5 covers needed) and used the other 5 to almost max out two more 3 stars, But then i though Why waste the cash i should be able to do this for free in the next 3 to 4 months max.

    Someone else said BUY SLOTS but already sitting on around 1800 HP what i can easy buy 3 slots and will have around 2400 to 3000 by end of month. Since i can dump someone if i get Pro X. Already have Rag so dont need a open slot for them

    These sales are great for newbies though. I mean i remember getting i think almost 15 slots for 20 bucks and it was a great buy.

    Right now at 600 per. 20 bucks would only get me like 5 slots (4 bucks per slot) is way too much.

    Though thanks for having the sale D3 this will help a lot of newbies get the slots they need dirt cheap. Last say was around mid of nov. so about 4 months back so im guessing the next sale will be around AUG 2015. If im still here i will put some cash into the game. Though still temped to buy the 100 buck HP package.
  • mjh
    mjh Posts: 708 Critical Contributor
    this sale is a joke, and a very bad one. An insult at this point. When is D3 going to realize +30% is horsehockey?

    +50%

    Get it together you guys.
  • and here i just spent 25 € two days ago....will a support ticket help in getting refunded?
  • _RiO_
    _RiO_ Posts: 1,047 Chairperson of the Boards
    and here i just spent 25 € two days ago....will a support ticket help in getting refunded?

    You have a better chance buying lottery scratch tickets and getting reimbursed that way...
  • but mpq is not trying to mislead people.

    It's impossible for you (or me) to prove intent like that. You are merely stating an opinion and whether that opinion is shared by ppl probably depends how much faith they have in the powers that be. It's nonsensical to claim that must be true... or indeed that must be false.

    So from my point of view having a sale to entice purchases without informing the majority of players (ppl are very keen to point out we are only 10% of the players (and ex players?) when defending ignoring our opinions and desires icon_e_biggrin.gif ) about a nerf to 2 of the most desirable characters whom a person might be expected to buy HP to get covers for, which they have already decided upon since they are posted here seems somewhat deceitful/misleading or at least very disingenuous. I no longer believe stuff like this is coincidental where I would have previously.

    Agree with your last point 100% though.
  • puppychow
    puppychow Posts: 1,453
    djsquillz wrote:
    I'll pass. I used to purchase 2 Starks per sale to cover shields, roster slots, and the occasional cover.

    But since D3 decided that shield hopping was "Unfun", i use barely any HP on shields anymore.

    I'll admit that I have hit you on a few occasions in pvp events. Now, reading that you don't use shields anymore, I'll try my best to avoid hitting you. icon_e_wink.gif No promises though, as AI seems to enjoy giving me 3 pt matches on occasion. icon_e_confused.gif
  • I would've bought a week ago because I've saved up $60 to spend but these nerfs are making it a risky buy. 30% discount just isn't enough to convince me.

    With all these nerfs, maybe they should make ISO more affordable. When I say affordable, I'm talking about at least doubling the quantity
  • At least. More like quadruple, at least.
  • prash wrote:
    I would've bought a week ago because I've saved up $60 to spend but these nerfs are making it a risky buy. 30% discount just isn't enough to convince me.

    With all these nerfs, maybe they should make ISO more affordable. When I say affordable, I'm talking about at least doubling the quantity
    They've deceived you with math trickery! 30% 'more' means the cost per hp or iso is : 1/1.3 ~ .77, not even close to 30%.
    Only a 23% discount!
  • TLCstormz
    TLCstormz Posts: 1,668
    Is that true???
  • Marty17
    Marty17 Posts: 503 Critical Contributor
    Wait a minute...has the price gone up on Stark Salary/Motherlode? I swear it used to be £69.99 rather than £79.99...
  • daibar wrote:
    prash wrote:
    I would've bought a week ago because I've saved up $60 to spend but these nerfs are making it a risky buy. 30% discount just isn't enough to convince me.

    With all these nerfs, maybe they should make ISO more affordable. When I say affordable, I'm talking about at least doubling the quantity
    They've deceived you with math trickery! 30% 'more' means the cost per hp or iso is : 1/1.3 ~ .77, not even close to 30%.
    Only a 23% discount!


    To be fair they aren't mentioning a 30% Discount. They are saying 30% More Currency which is what they are actually offering
  • btw, i got refunded! my exp with the CS was good.
  • Koko81 wrote:
    daibar wrote:
    prash wrote:
    I would've bought a week ago because I've saved up $60 to spend but these nerfs are making it a risky buy. 30% discount just isn't enough to convince me.

    With all these nerfs, maybe they should make ISO more affordable. When I say affordable, I'm talking about at least doubling the quantity
    They've deceived you with math trickery! 30% 'more' means the cost per hp or iso is : 1/1.3 ~ .77, not even close to 30%.
    Only a 23% discount!


    To be fair they aren't mentioning a 30% Discount. They are saying 30% More Currency which is what they are actually offering

    my bad. but i still mean they need to double their offering icon_e_smile.gif