Dark Avengers: Heroic (March 16-March 22)

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  • Oldboy
    Oldboy Posts: 452 Mover and Shaker
    Knock them hard enough and often enough with the wheelchair and they'll fall down. So i suppose he could use "Demolish".... icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • clay_peterson
    clay_peterson Posts: 46 Just Dropped In
    So I have maybe a stupid question... If someone grinds away at the nodes over and over, will they get the same amount of points as someone who lets the nodes refresh and immediately clears them?

    I'm trying to figure out why I'm over 2000 points behind first place when I've been clearing every four or five hours, and if it will make a difference in the end.
  • Marty17
    Marty17 Posts: 503 Critical Contributor
    I'm still baffled in how I'm struggling in this Heroic mode compared to the previous ones. The only noticeable difference is more of the featured characters I have maxed levelled (except like 3 overall). My only concern now is I won't able to beat/accumulate points to earn all progression rewards never mind attempting for T20.
  • pabasa130
    pabasa130 Posts: 208 Tile Toppler
    So I have maybe a stupid question... If someone grinds away at the nodes over and over, will they get the same amount of points as someone who lets the nodes refresh and immediately clears them?

    I'm trying to figure out why I'm over 2000 points behind first place when I've been clearing every four or five hours, and if it will make a difference in the end.

    Let's maths!

    For a 36 hour subevent, you can hit full refresh 5 times (t=0, t=8, t=16, t=24, t=32). At t=32, you'll have 5 full refreshes.

    Assuming someone grinds all nodes 6 times at t=0, their score is 1+5/6+4/6+3/6+2/6+1/6 = 3.5.

    That's in an ideal situation and ignores the final grind in the end (which is difficult to calculate anyway, since it realistically depends on your success in grinding down each node fully).

    Let's take a halfway mark, say 18 hours in. If you hit every 8 hours you'll get 3 full refreshes. Someone who does the nodes 3 times at the start will get 1+5/6+4/6 = 2.5.

    In conclusion I don't know.
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    Has anyone else played themselves into a stalemate? Invis Prof X vs Daken. I can't hurt him, he can't hit me
  • Oldboy
    Oldboy Posts: 452 Mover and Shaker
    ... And the memory of the last Jugs Heroic is back. All those accusations of the devs not playing their own game? Add me to the list.

    Ares + 2 goons - no tank in featured characters. Instead we get squishy ones like mostorm and torch. 2* Thor isn't much help when Ares gets fed green and red.
    Jugs, Daken and Sentry does not make it any easier either

    For a game that's supposed to be fun, it's been incredibly frustrating lately.
  • So although heroics are bleh, most of the nodes are doable(at least right now), and the kicker is that alot of the nodes have goons with purpleflag.png so black widow can be very very sneaky.

    Call me a believer in turul saying 3*Storm has infinite potential because(now that I have her covered I guess, just missing a yellow) she gives me the AP I need to make it through this ****, hides in the back like a good support. Hopefully these nodes don't scale too much b/c my A team isn't really that "A".
  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,496 Chairperson of the Boards
    fmftint wrote:
    Has anyone else played themselves into a stalemate? Invis Prof X vs Daken. I can't hurt him, he can't hit me


    Hopefully you also have the blue professor X cover and you made a match 5, otherwise good luck to you brother. I had a similar type battle with spidey v. spidey 40 min later, I had a miraculous cascade and won.
  • I didn't notice 3* HT was available initially and had some epic battle where I needed to rely on Daredevil to win, and some of them I had no idea how I won.

    Billy Club is a pretty good utility move even with HT on the team, especially for dealing with Daken at the end.
  • clay_peterson
    clay_peterson Posts: 46 Just Dropped In
    fmftint wrote:
    Has anyone else played themselves into a stalemate? Invis Prof X vs Daken. I can't hurt him, he can't hit me

    I guess try to get enough blues to let him hurt himself?
  • Have officially wiped more on this go-around of this PVE than the last 4 combined. And it's still only the first sub. Thanks for such a limited roster, D3. The changes you're making recently are really inspiring...in the worst possible way.
  • tanis3303
    tanis3303 Posts: 855 Critical Contributor
    fmftint wrote:
    Has anyone else played themselves into a stalemate? Invis Prof X vs Daken. I can't hurt him, he can't hit me

    Yes! Took me like 25 minutes, but I finally got enough blues off the board to let him die from his own heat plus a Photon Blast team up i had from the Hunt.
  • Wow. Just started round 2 the Facility. 48 hr sub? and 2 of the essential nodes are Prof X!
    Only 7 nodes to play if you don't have him. The first sub went so smoothly for me, now the big speed bump.
    Glad I'm only playing for the Storm cover.
  • which heroes avaible for second sub?
  • Prof X
    Storm mohawk
    Daredevil
    Original Black Widow
    Johny Storm
    Thor marvel now
    Iron Man 35
    Hawkeye classic
    Blade
    Gamora
    Ms Marvel
    Storm modern
  • Marty17
    Marty17 Posts: 503 Critical Contributor
    Currently on 14,099pts, just 10,000pts to go then I'll take it easy (or even a break from the game! icon_e_biggrin.gif)
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    Something just occurred to me, this is Prof Xs introductory event, why is there only ONE useable Xman?

    Do the devs randomly choose heroic rosters like they do covers?
  • orionpeace
    orionpeace Posts: 344 Mover and Shaker
    fmftint wrote:
    Something just occurred to me, this is Prof Xs introductory event, why is there only ONE useable Xman?

    Do the devs randomly choose heroic rosters like they do covers?

    I believe that part of the decision for the roster is based on recently included characters from PvE and PvP. That usually dictates the 3*/4*s included. Hence, Prof X, Daredevil and Mokawk Storm.

    I think it is pretty random after that.

    EDIT: But considering the last two PvE were for Punisher and IF, I'm not sure now.
  • fmftint
    fmftint Posts: 3,653 Chairperson of the Boards
    orionpeace wrote:
    fmftint wrote:
    Something just occurred to me, this is Prof Xs introductory event, why is there only ONE useable Xman?

    Do the devs randomly choose heroic rosters like they do covers?

    I believe that part of the decision for the roster is based on recently included characters from PvE and PvP. That usually dictates the 3*/4*s included. Hence, Prof X, Daredevil and Mokawk Storm.

    I think it is pretty random after that.

    EDIT: But considering the last two PvE were for Punisher and IF, I'm not sure now.

    That still seems lacking, after all we are playing Heroic Dark Avengers because of the Ragnarok reveal, so they at least care a little bit about the flavor of an event. Prof X introduction should have an Xmen roster
  • ZootSax
    ZootSax Posts: 1,819 Chairperson of the Boards
    Quebbster wrote:
    I can't help wonder what the next PvE will be though since a featured villain limits the possibilities significantly. We just had a Simulator and Prodigal Sun, and if it introduces a new character the Gauntlet would be an odd choice. Deadpool vs MPQ maybe?

    I'm hoping for a new villain's only version of the Heroic events, where we get insanely boosted villain characters, teamed up with similarly over-leveled goons and play against random teams leveled only half as much as any of our villains. The opponents also get negatively scaled as the event progresses. I just always wanted to know how it felt to be the AI in these events icon_e_smile.gif