Character Rotations For Season XII

CrookedKnight

One disappointment in this rotation: GSBW is one of the characters most in need of a buff, and also the one for whom the least thought is necessary: Her green and red powers cost way too much, especially with fewer than five covers in green. That's it. She'd be a much more playable character if her red had anything close to a good damage/AP ratio and her green didn't have to be maxed to provide decent value. Shame that doesn't seem to be in the offing.

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Ben Grimm wrote:

Was hoping for Colossus and the Ragnarok update, but guess it didn't happen. Probably makes sense to hold tokens until Cyclops and Iron Fist get added, I guess.

Was really hoping for Colossus and Rags, too.

Unknown

Not one to go quietly, Deadpool decided to pop out of one of my standard tokens today. I got all excited when I saw the gold symbol. 3* from a standard? Score! And it's...Whales? Damn it, Deadpool! I love you but I already have all your covers. Off to the vault with you. Take Sentry and Spidey with you. Have them sit in the corner for a few months and think about what they've done.

KrazyKeylime

can't wait for rags to come out of the vault so i can finish him, deadpool i think his healing factor needs a better boost levels 4 and 5 able to regain some more hp or lower the trigger. mohawk storm needs to be vaulted. sentry and spidey need to be buffed.
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make spidey better he is an iconic character and deserves much more then he was dealt

Unknown

This pleases me. I maxed covered Spidey, Sentry and DP this season and I could definitely use some GSBW and Daken. Bring them on!

Grantilis

I am excited to hear this as I just maxed out Spider-Man and Deadpool. Though I am disappointed to not see Panther in there, he has been on the weak side for a while in my roster.

Hopefully they retweak both Beast and Doc Oct. Both are rather weak and could use a boost.

wingX

I finally obtained Deadpool character which I wanted for quite sometime and was preparing it to be permanently on my roster but then it get vaulted. Why? This happen just like last season where I managed to get Hulk which is also a character I wanted for quite some time.

Well at least there is still DDQ (love it)

yogi_

Main thread updated for season 12.

Characters most eligible to be rotated out next season (all 3* characters – returned characters – new characters this season) - Blade, Gamora, Hood, Luke Cage, Mystique, Rocket and Groot, Squirrel Girl and Storm.
(You'd have to think Hood, Storm and maybe Blade / Mystique would be up next. The other consideration is that at some point soon, characters will have to start making second rotations out).

Characters most eligible to make a return next season (solely based on most time gone) - Ragnarok, Black Panther, Iron Man and Psylocke.

eaise

So glad to see 3* daken finally come back. Now I need to get some purples for him and he'll be usable.
Deadpool being vaulted sucks because mine has 9 or 10 covers. So close to being maxed. But no big deal. Everyone has to get vaulted at some point (unfortunately )

Spoit

konannfriends wrote:

dearbluey wrote:

IceIX wrote:

wymtime wrote:

I just have to say come on man!!! Rags needs to make a come back with a 3rd power. He will be out now for what 5 seasons. Loki, and Doom have 3rd abilities now, it is time Rags becomes relevant again.

So please give rags a 3rd ability and bring him back soon.

Ragnarok was all ready to go at the start of this season, freshly buffed with new programming inserted by a black ops tech team in Korea funded by H.A.M.M.E.R. Unfortunately, when it came time to provide initial power, one of the techs didn't pay attention to the manual and didn't use a 240->120V downstep converter. Back into the shop went Ragnarok...

Cute

Translation: Just before releasing Ragnarok again, an unintended horror in his skillset would have severely hurt/unbalanced the game?

So his err power is power surge right?

Charged green tiles would allow for some pretty degenerate things to happen, with AP collection powers.

konannfriends

CrookedKnight wrote:

One disappointment in this rotation: GSBW is one of the characters most in need of a buff, and also the one for whom the least thought is necessary: Her green and red powers cost way too much, especially with fewer than five covers in green. That's it. She'd be a much more playable character if her red had anything close to a good damage/AP ratio and her green didn't have to be maxed to provide decent value. Shame that doesn't seem to be in the offing.

You know I was just thinking this my self.
5 months ago she seemed really good. But after all the new character releases I see just how bad . she is. And her red Is terrible. I get that she can create green but still to do that you need 11 ap. Her green needs to be pulled down to 16ap, her can stay the same but reduce the ap cost to 10. Her green is also fine. I'd actually use her if she got these small buffs. But until then she is so bad.

Its not like she has high health. That should the the trade off. Low health but super power AoE like classic storm is.

She's not top priority but she kinda worse off than she hulk. The list of priority should be.

Ragnorak
Mohawk Storm( easy fix make her yellow 5 like it should be) and her green used to cost 9 if I remember right.
Susan Storm
Doc Oct
She hulk
Grey suit Black widow
Spiderman ( passive should also add extra damage on blue and yellow matches like obw )

And give xforce the sentry treatment already. Lol jk.... No one deserves that. But increase his black cost to 13. And he'd be fine he doesn't have super high health anyway.

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konannfriends wrote:

CrookedKnight wrote:

One disappointment in this rotation: GSBW is one of the characters most in need of a buff, and also the one for whom the least thought is necessary: Her green and red powers cost way too much, especially with fewer than five covers in green. That's it. She'd be a much more playable character if her red had anything close to a good damage/AP ratio and her green didn't have to be maxed to provide decent value. Shame that doesn't seem to be in the offing.

You know I was just thinking this my self.
5 months ago she seemed really good. But after all the new character releases I see just how bad . she is. And her red Is terrible. I get that she can create green but still to do that you need 11 ap. Her green needs to be pulled down to 16ap, her can stay the same but reduce the ap cost to 10. Her green is also fine. I'd actually use her if she got these small buffs. But until then she is so bad.

Its not like she has high health. That should the the trade off. Low health but super power AoE like classic storm is.

She's not top priority but she kinda worse off than she hulk. The list of priority should be.

Ragnorak
Mohawk Storm( easy fix make her yellow 5 like it should be) and her green used to cost 9 if I remember right.
Susan Storm
Doc Oct
She hulk
Grey suit Black widow
Spiderman ( passive should also add extra damage on blue and yellow matches like obw )

And give xforce the sentry treatment already. Lol jk.... No one deserves that. But increase his black cost to 13. And he'd be fine he doesn't have super high health anyway.

Ragnarok is definetely top of the list for buffs. I don't think that Mohawk storm needs a buff, her yellow is weak but so what when you have a strong yellow ability. Invisible woman is definetely number 2 for buffs. I feel like spider-man is fine, I've played him enough to know that if you use him right, he can be good. Oh no, he doesn't have offensive abilities! You know who else doesn't have offensive abilities? Loki and OBW.

I feel like instead of increasing the cost of his black, increase the cost of his green to 10. That way you can't use his green ability on turn 2 (with boosts)

SnowcaTT

Hood has two of three offensive abilities, black Intimidation is pretty good with 5 and Twin Pistols (yellow) is often a match ender for me.

Looking forward to Rags back with 3rd ability, hopefully sooner rather than later. Every character going out I have maxed covers for, and every character coming in I need covers for - except GSBW with DPD just finished off for me. Glad to see this rotation.

Hoping IM and She-Hulk both come back with slight buffs. They are both ok characters, just slight buffs would really improve them. Imagine IM with same abilities except Red costs 9-10, Blue costs 14-15, neither reduce your AP, and Yellow countdowns are changed so having more covers helps rather than hurts. He'd be amazing and see lots of play!

Storm is a fantastic character if she simply had more health. Her abilities can deal a ton of damage. If she's a "goddess", why not have tons of health?

Surprised with the amount of Spidey we've seen he didn't go out this time. Looking forward to seeing Doc Oc eventual buff.

konannfriends

SnowcaTT wrote:

Hood has two of three offensive abilities, black Intimidation is pretty good with 5 and Twin Pistols (yellow) is often a match ender for me.

Looking forward to Rags back with 3rd ability, hopefully sooner rather than later. Every character going out I have maxed covers for, and every character coming in I need covers for - except GSBW with DPD just finished off for me. Glad to see this rotation.

Hoping IM and She-Hulk both come back with slight buffs. They are both ok characters, just slight buffs would really improve them. Imagine IM with same abilities except Red costs 9-10, Blue costs 14-15, neither reduce your AP, and Yellow countdowns are changed so having more covers helps rather than hurts. He'd be amazing and see lots of play!

Storm is a fantastic character if she simply had more health. Her abilities can deal a ton of damage. If she's a "goddess", why not have tons of health?

Surprised with the amount of Spidey we've seen he didn't go out this time. Looking forward to seeing Doc Oc eventual buff.

Yeah storm is fantastic but she's not Wat she used to be. You might even say she hot the sentry treatment. She used to be the cascade queen.
You'd use Yellow get the environment tiles. And then you'd get a burst of health, a critical tile or the best was was getting 5 ap in every color but losing a bit of health. It was totally worth it. But now it's cost almost double the ap. And is only useful maybe 1 per match since to can only have 2p team ups at a time and I know for me only about 6 of them are actually USABLE.

So like I saying before. She wasn't hailed as good because she does damage. Wich she has. But she's was because she could constantly shake the board and using the environmental tile great rewards.

They could either reduce the cost to 5ap
Or keep it at 9ap and have her destroy random 4 green and 3 black tiles.
Her black is fine. It does massive damage but her green of sets it.

I know it sounds op . but she only has 5100 health. She deserves this

konannfriends

konannfriends wrote:

SnowcaTT wrote:

Hood has two of three offensive abilities, black Intimidation is pretty good with 5 and Twin Pistols (yellow) is often a match ender for me.

Looking forward to Rags back with 3rd ability, hopefully sooner rather than later. Every character going out I have maxed covers for, and every character coming in I need covers for - except GSBW with DPD just finished off for me. Glad to see this rotation.

Hoping IM and She-Hulk both come back with slight buffs. They are both ok characters, just slight buffs would really improve them. Imagine IM with same abilities except Red costs 9-10, Blue costs 14-15, neither reduce your AP, and Yellow countdowns are changed so having more covers helps rather than hurts. He'd be amazing and see lots of play!

Storm is a fantastic character if she simply had more health. Her abilities can deal a ton of damage. If she's a "goddess", why not have tons of health?

Surprised with the amount of Spidey we've seen he didn't go out this time. Looking forward to seeing Doc Oc eventual buff.

Yeah storm is fantastic but she's not Wat she used to be. You might even say she got the sentry treatment.( ok jk .. I love this joke) She used to be the cascade queen.
You'd use Yellow( Red)get the environment tiles. And then you'd get a burst of health, a critical tile or the best was was getting 5 ap in every color but losing a bit of health. It was totally worth it. But now it's cost almost double the ap. And is only useful maybe 1 per match since to can only have 20 team ups at a time (and they give those out like 4 stars) and I know for me out of 20 only about 6 of them are actually USABLE./ useful

So like I saying before. She wasn't hailed as good because she does damage. Wich she has. But she's was because she could constantly shake the board and using the environmental tile great rewards.

They could either reduce the cost to 5ap
Or keep it at 9ap (and make it red )and have her destroy random 4 green and 3 black tiles.
Her black is fine. It does massive damage but her green of sets it.

I know it sounds op . but she only has 5100 health. She deserves this

Druss

Why does everyone want Ragnarok buffs?

I understand he has been vaulted for ages but lets consider:

Do you use him or would you use him if he came out as he is now? - Not sure anyone considers him top tier (I personally use him a fair bit as he hides completely behind my Patch, 11 Cover Ldaken - so I have a climbing team with quick powers that takes 0 damage).

If he comes out with a good passive (like Doom/loki) he would become a monster with 2 quick powers as well - potentially skewing the game, as he has a very large health pool as well.

If he comes out with an expensive power - this would be an utter nightmare as no-one would ever use it EXCEPT the AI in PvE (don't forget that Rags gets (over)used in Pve all the time - often paired with annoying purple shield Bullseye)

Overall having Rags buffed would add little for the player base, but would make PvE MUCH more difficult due to his frequency & insane scaling. Facing Lv 395 Rags with a 3rd ability does not sound much fun.

Don't really like the whole vaulting thing anyway but as its here to stay, at least in the short term, its an ideal place to leave Rags for the time being.

I do however respect the argument that its a bit weird having 34 x 3* with 33 able to go to lv 166 & only 1 to 140. Same thing with 2* Bullseye, but for the same reasons as above, lets hope Bullseye never receives a 3rd ability as well, as he is soooo annoying when he get to Lv 200+.

Unknown

Want is a relatively small part of it. We're getting one; he's getting a third power. A buff for him means he becomes a usable character. I think a lot of us want it to go ahead and happen already, so we can go ahead and get his covers and put ISO into him. And if he's harder in PVE, scaling should lower the level of the nodes he's in. The choices were never buff or no buff.

And, to be honest, he's a decent character as is. A decent third power and he'll be a solid, usable character. And if we're lucky, and it's something like charged tiles (like it looks like it)that the AI is terrible at using well, then the good will likely outweigh the bad.

Druss

scaling should lower the level of the nodes he's in.

Should but wont unfortunately.

konannfriends

Ben Grimm wrote:

Want is a relatively small part of it. We're getting one; he's getting a third power. A buff for him means he becomes a usable character. I think a lot of us want it to go ahead and happen already, so we can go ahead and get his covers and put ISO into him. And if he's harder in PVE, scaling should lower the level of the nodes he's in. The choices were never buff or no buff.

And, to be honest, he's a decent character as is. A decent third power and he'll be a solid, usable character. And if we're lucky, and it's something like charged tiles (like it looks like it)that the AI is terrible at using well, then the good will likely outweigh the bad.

When he comes out I'm gonna use the **** out of him. Having charged tiles will make for some nice combos. He maY not be very good on defense but for climbing I'd love to use him.

CNash

CNash wrote:

OH COME ON!

First you vault Hulk when I only need one more cover to max him, and now you do the same for Falcon after the game practically throws covers at me to get him to 12?!

So... um...

I just earned the season Heroic 10-pack (yes, I've been slacking in PVP - blame Deadpool, it seems to be the vogue right now), and the last cover that I pull from it is a Falcon, in one of the colours I need to max him. It's literally 10 minutes til the end of the last event of the season (for me) and the game just gives me the one cover I need for a character that'll be vaulted in 10 hours' time.

Don't know if this is enough to start believing in a higher power or anything... hmm, maybe a minor pantheon... let's call them the "MPQ Gods"