Seasons 50% 2*, 50% 3*

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I don't really get it. Really new players have it easier these days as you can even get 2* reward covers just from matches now, plus lots of events dishing out iso all the time. People trying to get 3* covers now have the new DP events, which dish out a 3* cover once a day. Do we really need to do even more? Genuine question, I am a transitioning guy currently so am far from a "vet" and I can't really see the issue?

From what I can tell, the user with the suggestion seems to say he dislikes pve and wants to do pvp, but it is made pretty clear all the way through that pvp is for people who have earned their stripes on pve, and now have enough covers to move to pvp? That's why people with high end rosters get silly scaling in pve, because it's not really for them, but for the 2* crew. At least I thought that was what this was all about.

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Lirisisk wrote:

Well, Maybe in this forum are only vets,, is not a big chanhge this only increase the number of players fighting, i dnt think vet are afraid but this is like vets doesnt want the game become easy for new players cuz you allready have evrything, kinda selfIsh, or just dnt want more competition?

What? It's not a big change? Forcing me to use outdated covers which I have far moved past from is not a big change? Maybe I should sell off some of my max covered 3*s to make room for these awesome 2*s just so you can complain about not being able to compete even in your proposed season because...what you don't get is success in pvp isn't just about your roster...it's also about how much hp you are willing to spend on shields. If you aren't willing to dump a whole lot of hp each event into shields, I hate to break it to you, you won't be breaking into top anything, the same people winning now will be winning then.

rednailz

Lirisisk wrote:

So, what is your "idea" ARONDITE, sit there and complain about new players ideas?,

This is like the típical veteran guy complainin about new changes, Taking this game to personal and agressive,

This kind of ideas comes cuz we are fighting whit more facts like rotation and oldies talkin about game time,

DDQ is really Good, but this was the cheaper way to make us happy, givin a random useless 3*(better than nothing) in a deadly wave,

I wouldn't call groot's yelllow, BP yellow, any cage cover or DP red (coming I would assume) useless. That's pretty good odds and drop rates for a useful 3* cover. I'd think a cmags cover would be useful to many too, although not his best one. No idea why people seem to complain even about the gifts D3 drops off. You get 4K iso a day, and possibly a cover you can use, plus 2 higher drop rate tokens.

If everything about the game is terrible, then quit

rednailz

Lirisisk wrote:

Well, Maybe in this forum are only vets,, is not a big chanhge this only increase the number of players fighting, i dnt think vet are afraid but this is like vets doesnt want the game become easy for new players cuz you allready have evrything, kinda selfIsh, or just dnt want more competition?

That's a pretty childish assumption bro. Vets just don't want to be forced to play with charecters they've moved past and already played to death, or spend iso leveling people they've moved past. They want to spend thier iso on new and fun things. Don't waste your time (or anyone elses) on this vets vs new player b.s. I can assure you vets want teh game to thrive and grow at least as much as anyone else playing it. They want new things, the game to survive and more fun compitition. You won't find more advocates for fixing the bugs and challenges to new players than those players who actually care about and put time into the game.

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Lirisisk wrote:

Why not, play 50% of seasons whit only 2* rosters for the same prizes,

This will help (including vets) all of us in the 2*-3*transition,
will remain the same but with a very large increase in players, vets continue Whit shield hop,
And all of us in 2* land May win something,

Yes, that is why I worked so hard the past year. So that I could take dives to help newer players.

Smith13

I was going to come in and say suck it up buttercup, but that might be too harsh. Look, anyone who's put anytime into this game and not any money has to know it's going to be a grind. MPQ isn't going to give us much more than they already do and they actually give quite a bit. If they did give new players more then they would be losing out on money and turning their backs on all the players who have been around for a long time. I know it might be hard to comprehend but free to play doesn't mean you get all the goods without paying. It means you can play some and if the games interests you enough, then maybe you'll spend some scratch in order to take the experience to the next level. I've seen a lot come and go in this game, players and game play. Some people quit when they took healing away, I almost did. Some people quit because puzzle games aren't their bag. Some people quit because they don't want to spend any money on a free game and then get bummed because they can't get any good rewards, well to them they're not good rewards. Oh well, I think it's a silly idea nonetheless, you can't make a season 50% 2* for the simple reason that there is not going to be much money involved. The reason there is a 3* wall is so that you pay for health packs and shields, if you choose not to, then you will lose out, but it's still free to play to that point and if you're not having fun, then maybe you should leave. I don't know how many times I played through the story mode just to build up my 2* guys, but it was a lot and it helped me learn how to play the different characters. If you play long enough, you'll be able to look back at the posts about the game not being fair and say the exact same things that many "vets" are posting. Have a good day and grind it out, it's worth it, spend $20 bucks here and there and it'll improve your experience.

Unknown

One problem with a 2*-only event which I haven't seen brought up yet is that there currently aren't nearly as many 2*s as 3*s -- which means that, once you're playing mostly against maxed 2*s, the rosters get very monotonous. Locking out underlevelled 3*s from the event would make it more so.

Lidolas

Try enjoying the game for what it is. Sure you may not be winning any events, but if you put in the time and effort, you can keep expanding your roster and leveling your heroes. Don't compare your roster against other players, compare it to your own roster last week. If you stick with it, you will keep getting better and better. With the new daily, you can plan which 3*s you want to focus on and you have a guaranteed opportunity at a cover you need. That's never been the case before. This is a huge boost to the transitioning players.

So many people are too anxious to get to the end game. Enjoy your transition while you have it. You can never go back.

Arondite

Lirisisk wrote:

So, what is your "idea" ARONDITE, sit there and complain about new players ideas?,

This is like the típical veteran guy complainin about new changes, Taking this game to personal and agressive,

This kind of ideas comes cuz we are fighting whit more facts like rotation and oldies talkin about game time,

DDQ is really Good, but this was the cheaper way to make us happy, givin a random useless 3*(better than nothing) in a deadly wave,

I never claimed to have an idea, I said your idea was not a good one.

I'm not a veteran, I didn't take it personal and I"m not being aggressive. I'm trying to tell you a change like this will never happen so you can spend your time in a better way than rallying for a pointless cause. And if, in some alternate dimension, your idea took hold, you'd quickly find yourself playing alone.

I can't figure out what you mean by this line. You're fighting with facts? So are we. When progression and power spiking occurs too quickly and too easily in an rpg style or collectible style game, players quit rapidly after only a few months of play.

Useless? Luke Cage is useless? R&G are useless? Black Panther and Deadpool are useless? Maybe you should take a bit to actually learn the game before you start trying to develop ideas on how to improve it. DDQ has been amazing so far and looks to continue that trend.

MojoWild

I'm not understanding how a tournament restricted to 2* would be any less competitive. Wouldn't they be complete bloodbaths by the end when even more players are going in with maxed rosters and trading pvp points? You would see a ton of congestion at the top and it wouldn't really be any easier imo.

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MojoWild wrote:

I'm not understanding how a tournament restricted to 2* would be any less competitive. Wouldn't they be complete bloodbaths by the end when even more players are going in with maxed rosters and trading pvp points? You would see a ton of congestion at the top and it wouldn't really be any easier imo.

At least we have a chance to compete,

This is what it happen when mayor leagues and minor leagues play together, i dnt know how some Guys compare Other games and NFL(lol) whit MPQ,
I play a lot of games and in most of them you can choose fresh servers, nobody wants to play whit vets if you are new,
Every game whit 1 year old, new Guys never want to play whit vets, only cuz thats unfair, its like MLB playing baseball whit kids in the same season. How that is fair?

Veterans need to see the game from our(newbies) perspective, not only say if i work hard you too,

Maybe half of season for 2* is to much, but 3 pvps for 2* its ok, is not a big changue is just more competition.

As i say DDQ givin useless covers from my perspective, they give me yellow luke cage and now my luke cake is 1,0,1 how this is playable? Now i need to wait 2 month till they give another luke cage?

rednailz

Lirisisk wrote:

MojoWild wrote:

I'm not understanding how a tournament restricted to 2* would be any less competitive. Wouldn't they be complete bloodbaths by the end when even more players are going in with maxed rosters and trading pvp points? You would see a ton of congestion at the top and it wouldn't really be any easier imo.

At least we have a chance to compete,

This is what it happen when mayor leagues and minor leagues play together, i dnt know how some Guys compare Other games and NFL(lol) whit MPQ,
I play a lot of games and in most of them you can choose fresh servers, nobody wants to play whit vets if you are new,
Every game whit 1 year old, new Guys never want to play whit vets, only cuz thats unfair, its like MLB playing baseball whit kids in the same season. How that is fair?

Veterans need to see the game from our(newbies) perspective, not only say if i work hard you too,

Maybe half of season for 2* is to much, but 3 pvps for 2* its ok, is not a big changue is just more competition.

As i say DDQ givin useless covers from my perspective, they give me yellow luke cage and now my luke cake is 1,0,1 how this is playable? Now i need to wait 2 month till they give another luke cage?

No, it's actuall less like MLB playing against kids and more like every other single online game in the world. In an FPS vets earned better guns and equipment and know the maps better. In MMO / RPG other players who've been playing longer are higher level and have better gear and roll you over. they often "newb gank" for kicks. And so on and so on. Your Luke Cage is more playable than he was before you got the yellow. You can now get another one with HP should you choose not to wait. My first 166 was patch. I got 3 covers for him in my first 3 - 4 months playing.

If you want instant gratification then maybe the game isn't for you. The your idea is bunk (it's not personal)- move on.

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rednailz wrote:

Lirisisk wrote:

MojoWild wrote:

I'm not understanding how a tournament restricted to 2* would be any less competitive. Wouldn't they be complete bloodbaths by the end when even more players are going in with maxed rosters and trading pvp points? You would see a ton of congestion at the top and it wouldn't really be any easier imo.

At least we have a chance to compete,

This is what it happen when mayor leagues and minor leagues play together, i dnt know how some Guys compare Other games and NFL(lol) whit MPQ,
I play a lot of games and in most of them you can choose fresh servers, nobody wants to play whit vets if you are new,
Every game whit 1 year old, new Guys never want to play whit vets, only cuz thats unfair, its like MLB playing baseball whit kids in the same season. How that is fair?

Veterans need to see the game from our(newbies) perspective, not only say if i work hard you too,

Maybe half of season for 2* is to much, but 3 pvps for 2* its ok, is not a big changue is just more competition.

As i say DDQ givin useless covers from my perspective, they give me yellow luke cage and now my luke cake is 1,0,1 how this is playable? Now i need to wait 2 month till they give another luke cage?

No, it's actuall less like MLB playing against kids and more like every other single online game in the world. In an FPS vets earned better guns and equipment and know the maps better. In MMO / RPG other players who've been playing longer are higher level and have better gear and roll you over. they often "newb gank" for kicks. And so on and so on. Your Luke Cage is more playable than he was before you got the yellow. You can now get another one with HP should you choose not to wait. My first 166 was patch. I got 3 covers for him in my first 3 - 4 months playing.

If you want instant gratification then maybe the game isn't for you. The your idea is bunk (it's not personal)- move on.

Cant explain whit my bad english,

I dnt want instant gratification, in FPS, MMO or RPG you can avoid vets and enjoy your game or join to fresh servers, and sooner or later you can reach them whitout use money, MPQ is not the same, whit all this new characters, the only way is use money and how much it is? 100$ per character plus 100$ iso, if you use that money in FPS, MMO, RPG you are the god,

Leave the game is not a choise for me, i really enjoy pve, this is just a way to compete against vets in some pvps not instant gratification.

MojoWild

Lirisisk wrote:

rednailz wrote:

Lirisisk wrote:

MojoWild wrote:

I'm not understanding how a tournament restricted to 2* would be any less competitive. Wouldn't they be complete bloodbaths by the end when even more players are going in with maxed rosters and trading pvp points? You would see a ton of congestion at the top and it wouldn't really be any easier imo.

At least we have a chance to compete,

This is what it happen when mayor leagues and minor leagues play together, i dnt know how some Guys compare Other games and NFL(lol) whit MPQ,
I play a lot of games and in most of them you can choose fresh servers, nobody wants to play whit vets if you are new,
Every game whit 1 year old, new Guys never want to play whit vets, only cuz thats unfair, its like MLB playing baseball whit kids in the same season. How that is fair?

Veterans need to see the game from our(newbies) perspective, not only say if i work hard you too,

Maybe half of season for 2* is to much, but 3 pvps for 2* its ok, is not a big changue is just more competition.

As i say DDQ givin useless covers from my perspective, they give me yellow luke cage and now my luke cake is 1,0,1 how this is playable? Now i need to wait 2 month till they give another luke cage?

No, it's actuall less like MLB playing against kids and more like every other single online game in the world. In an FPS vets earned better guns and equipment and know the maps better. In MMO / RPG other players who've been playing longer are higher level and have better gear and roll you over. they often "newb gank" for kicks. And so on and so on. Your Luke Cage is more playable than he was before you got the yellow. You can now get another one with HP should you choose not to wait. My first 166 was patch. I got 3 covers for him in my first 3 - 4 months playing.

If you want instant gratification then maybe the game isn't for you. The your idea is bunk (it's not personal)- move on.

Cant explain whit my bad english,

I dnt want instant gratification, in FPS, MMO or RPG you can avoid vets and enjoy your game or join to fresh servers, and sooner or later you can reach them whitout use money, MPQ is not the same, whit all this new characters, the only way is use money and how much it is? 100$ per character plus 100$ iso, if you use that money in FPS, MMO, RPG you are the god,

Leave the game is not a choise for me, i really enjoy pve, this is just a way to compete against vets in some pvps not instant gratification.

In the MLB example, basically you don't just want an even playing field, you want to exclude the vets completely.
Look, you know what good 3* rosters also have? Good 2* rosters.
It's like if you wanted to replace baseball with wiffleball, you're still playing experienced pro players who make the big bucks.
And instead of twenty people jockeying for top five, you're going to have one hundred fighting there. And you think it sucks now getting hit five times while unshielded, wait until you try to make a move in that mess.

Unknown

I bet that if they do introduce a 2* pvp vets will probably be at the top either way. They have more experience with the older characters and the only reason some place so well is because they are not afraid to spend hp for hops and know when to hop and when to shield. I myself do a quick run and when things start to get hot I close up like a clam and wait for the waves to calm down and then go for it again.

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Lirisisk wrote:

Leave the game is not a choise for me, i really enjoy pve, this is just a way to compete against vets in some pvps not instant gratification.

Lirisisk wrote:

I only want a chance to compete in pvp cuz grind pve boring,

Not trying to be picky here, but you are posting one thing one minute, then changing your positions when people say your idea isn't very good.

I could repeat what I said earlier, but you seem to be selecting a couple of posts to respond to and then ignoring the rest, so not much I can do. I will just add, I have just done a lightening round fighting just seed teams and got a Moonstone and Ares cover and some iso. So I again can't work out why you seem to think this game is really hard to progress in without spending money.

Unknown

Lirisisk wrote:

At least we have a chance to compete,

This is what it happen when mayor leagues and minor leagues play together, i dnt know how some Guys compare Other games and NFL(lol) whit MPQ,
I play a lot of games and in most of them you can choose fresh servers, nobody wants to play whit vets if you are new,
Every game whit 1 year old, new Guys never want to play whit vets, only cuz thats unfair, its like MLB playing baseball whit kids in the same season. How that is fair?

Veterans need to see the game from our(newbies) perspective, not only say if i work hard you too,

Maybe half of season for 2* is to much, but 3 pvps for 2* its ok, is not a big changue is just more competition.

As i say DDQ givin useless covers from my perspective, they give me yellow luke cage and now my luke cake is 1,0,1 how this is playable? Now i need to wait 2 month till they give another luke cage?

Veterans saw the game from the newbies perspective.

Then they became veterans.

This sounds like a teenager telling their parents they don't know what it's like to be a teenager.

You're still new to the game. Literally everyone who is more experienced than you has gone through the same issue of "man, I wish I could place higher with 2 stars."

Then you build 3 stars.
Then you build 4 stars.
Then you're a veteran.

It's a cycle.
You're asking to skip the cycle, basically saying you want to be where the veterans are without the veterans' work.

I'm sorry you can't place top 25 with your roster. But let me tell you.

I would have loved to get 2 stars for free after finishing fights when I was in the 2 star range.

Did you know there used to be a 1 to 2 star transition? Yea, you used to have 3 to 4 1 stars before you had enough covers to level a 2 star.
Now, you can get a 13 cover 2 star in a week of starting this game.

That transition is gone.
You're already 1 to 2 months ahead of where the veterans were at your play stage.

Is the 3 star transition hard? Yes.
That's why they released the DDQ. It gives you a chance to get more 3 star covers via a free cover and 2 taco tokens every single day.

When I was transitioning from 2 to 3, I would have loved to have that much influx of 3 star covers.

Bottom line:
stop complaining. Newbies have it better now than they ever have before. This is a classic case of give a mouse a cookie.
They threw you a bone, you spat it out and asked for a bigger one.

You either play the game or you don't. The devs are working hard to make this game smoother and they have taken some major strides to that effect. The fact that you only want more things to slide down the food chain obviously means this game may not be for you.

But they aren't going to just hand you a 3 star roster. You need to work for it. Just like the rest of us.

MojoWild

^ yes this! I don't think there's anything more to be said on either side, let's lock it down.

Unknown

Good points,,

This is a game and today every game become cheaper, i dnt know why there are so many oldies characters at the same cost than cyclops,

2* pvp is not gonna be easy,

This is how suposse to be, 2* pvps whit oldies characters as prize. Who are the oldest characters in game?

My point is they need to add a 2* competition whit prizes like spidey, beast or who? Or there is a veteran who want to play for a beast cover?

At least oldies covers need to be reachables for us?

Btw yesterday i won my first 3* cover in pvp, loki green whit 400 points,

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hermanbloom wrote:

Lirisisk wrote:

Leave the game is not a choise for me, i really enjoy pve, this is just a way to compete against vets in some pvps not instant gratification.

Lirisisk wrote:

I only want a chance to compete in pvp cuz grind pve boring,

Not trying to be picky here, but you are posting one thing one minute, then changing your positions when people say your idea isn't very good.

I could repeat what I said earlier, but you seem to be selecting a couple of posts to respond to and then ignoring the rest, so not much I can do. I will just add, I have just done a lightening round fighting just seed teams and got a Moonstone and Ares cover and some iso. So I again can't work out why you seem to think this game is really hard to progress in without spending money.

I enjoy pve when i play competitive, but try to play for top 10, 1 month, and let me know if that is not boring,