Seasons 50% 2*, 50% 3*

Unknown

Why not, play 50% of seasons whit only 2* rosters for the same prizes,

This will help (including vets) all of us in the 2*-3*transition,
will remain the same but with a very large increase in players, vets continue Whit shield hop,
And all of us in 2* land May win something,

Mikaveus

This wouldn't work for players entrenched in 3* land. I've only hung onto a handful of 2* characters (Ares, OBW, CStorm, Wolverine) and to consume 1/2 the season with 2* characters is asking too much.

What I would suggest is sprinkling in events where only 1* or 2* characters can be used. Heck, even events solely for 3* characters - we'd relish a break from X-Force + 4thor!

Vinmarc43

I would be up for this kind of change, I would prefer the chance to join different pvp base on " * " level.

rednailz

Lirisisk wrote:

Why not, play 50% of seasons whit only 2* rosters for the same prizes,

This will help (including vets) all of us in the 2*-3*transition,
will remain the same but with a very large increase in players, vets continue Whit shield hop,
And all of us in 2* land May win something,

I'd just quit instead of wasting iso and HP for roster slots on 2* charecters I didn't want to play. I served my time playing with a 2* roster, and have enough to help me through the odd chance where I need a couple. It's regressive.

Essentially your closing line sums it all up. Another transitioner complaining that they have it rough and the vets apparently were handed everything they have and never competed for their winnings.

Unknown

rednailz wrote:

Lirisisk wrote:

Why not, play 50% of seasons whit only 2* rosters for the same prizes,

This will help (including vets) all of us in the 2*-3*transition,
will remain the same but with a very large increase in players, vets continue Whit shield hop,
And all of us in 2* land May win something,

I'd just quit instead of wasting iso and HP for roster slots on 2* charecters I didn't want to play. I served my time playing with a 2* roster, and have enough to help me through the odd chance where I need a couple. It's regressive.

Essentially your closing line sums it all up. Another transitioner complaining that they have it rough and the vets apparently were handed everything they have and never competed for their winnings.

This is not a complain, i dnt know if you are a vet, but you cant compare vets whit new Guys, even if you have 6 months and i 2 months thats a lot of diff,
6 months ago transition Was very easy whit only a few 3* 4* characters, your time playing in 2* land was easy, now whit maxed 2* you can only get top 200 just a few times top 100.
Im pve player, but i think pvp is the easy way to get covers, plus seasons score.
Maybe 50% of season is to much but at least 2 pvp per season?

Scoregasms

I'm pretty sure it's every off-season (between seasons), but they run things like Balance of Power (all characters including 1* are raised to equal levels) and Combined Arms (required to bring 1*, 2* and 3* for team and are buffed). Both of these events throw the rules and metagame 4*'s out the window and let us all Headbutt each other into oblivion for covers. I know it's not 50% of an entire season, but there is that? Not sure if you've seen these events yet.

rednailz

Lirisisk wrote:

rednailz wrote:

Lirisisk wrote:

Why not, play 50% of seasons whit only 2* rosters for the same prizes,

This will help (including vets) all of us in the 2*-3*transition,
will remain the same but with a very large increase in players, vets continue Whit shield hop,
And all of us in 2* land May win something,

I'd just quit instead of wasting iso and HP for roster slots on 2* charecters I didn't want to play. I served my time playing with a 2* roster, and have enough to help me through the odd chance where I need a couple. It's regressive.

Essentially your closing line sums it all up. Another transitioner complaining that they have it rough and the vets apparently were handed everything they have and never competed for their winnings.

This is not a complain, i dnt know if you are a vet, but you cant compare vets whit new Guys, even if you have 6 months and i 2 months thats a lot of diff,
6 months ago transition Was very easy whit only a few 3* 4* characters, your time playing in 2* land was easy, now whit maxed 2* you can only get top 200 just a few times top 100.
Im pve player, but i think pvp is the easy way to get covers, plus seasons score.
Maybe 50% of season is to much but at least 2 pvp per season?

Seeing a post saying "And all of us in 2* land May win something" for the 1,000th time it just gets categorized as a complaint now, a redundant one. It's not a personal attack. 2* land was never "easy". Beating an old school maxed sentry / hood team is about as beatable to a transition player as an xforce / GT team.

I can't really comment on if it's harder now than it used to be to get top 100 since I'm too out of touch, but like I said, the suggestion works, it's just this "transition players never win anything" that is getting old. It's rough, I get it and empathize. It takes longer to build a decent 3* these days, it's a valid complaint. But it seems like you have the formula right, you grind PvE for the covers until you can get 1 solid 3* that will help immensly. A combination of shielding and ares or OBW with a decent 3* (who doesn't have to be maxed covered) would have gotten you into top 100 before the last couple seasons or so. Maybe it's all bungled now.

I think in general, no one is that impressed with how PvP is working.

Arondite

No offense, but this is a really bad idea. I can't think of a way to drive customers and players away faster than to take away everything they've worked for, for half the entire purpose for which they worked.

Players who have achieved 3 and 4 star rosters are supposed to beat you. They earned 3 and 4 star rosters. They are supposed to beat players who haven't.

If you join WoW tomorrow, do you expect to beat a day 1 player by Friday? No. Because that's positively absurd.

Unknown

Well, Maybe in this forum are only vets,, is not a big chanhge this only increase the number of players fighting, i dnt think vet are afraid but this is like vets doesnt want the game become easy for new players cuz you allready have evrything, kinda selfIsh, or just dnt want more competition?

Arondite

Lirisisk wrote:

Well, Maybe in this forum are only vets,, is not a big chanhge this only increase the number of players fighting, i dnt think vet are afraid but this is like vets doesnt want the game become easy for new players cuz you allready have evrything, kinda selfIsh, or just dnt want more competition?

We don't want the game to become easy for new players because then it erases all the work done by the veterans and makes the game too baby-mode easy for new players, causing them to lose interest and leave.

Further, it's not about the new players. This change would be flat out unfair to players who have worked to create and build tier 1 rosters. This change would be spitting in their face.

slidecage

Arondite wrote:

No offense, but this is a really bad idea. I can't think of a way to drive customers and players away faster than to take away everything they've worked for, for half the entire purpose for which they worked.

Players who have achieved 3 and 4 star rosters are supposed to beat you. They earned 3 and 4 star rosters. They are supposed to beat players who haven't.

If you join WoW tomorrow, do you expect to beat a day 1 player by Friday? No. Because that's positively absurd.

if they expect to keep bringing in new players they have to do something. I mean whats the fun of being hammered by someone 10x stronger then you. I been here 3 months and getting a good 2 star team to go into PVP now (still hit the 3 star wall) but i was thinking of making a 2nd account and going onto tablet as well. I hate to say it but i doubt i would ever start playing this game from day 1 again if i had to start all over again. It wasnt that bad back in NOV but now its just WOW i hate to go back to day 1, and that is what is hurting this game i think. I have played more online games where i was more then happy to make a 2nd and 3rd account and go back to day 1 just to build were i was on my other accounts, This game though its just a drain playing one account.

The daily helps since you can jump in and play like 15mins and out.

Unknown

I don't really want to:

1. Buy more roster slots to accommodate lesser rarity covers.
2. Play with covers that are weaker than the ones I've earned and won.
3. Be forced into not having the ability to use my entire roster for half a season.

I think a better solution is to have pvp events that are specifically for 2*s...like a minor leagues or training grounds where the rewards would be adjusted accordingly (I.e. 1000 point progression is a 3* not a 4*).

Arondite

slidecage wrote:

Arondite wrote:

No offense, but this is a really bad idea. I can't think of a way to drive customers and players away faster than to take away everything they've worked for, for half the entire purpose for which they worked.

Players who have achieved 3 and 4 star rosters are supposed to beat you. They earned 3 and 4 star rosters. They are supposed to beat players who haven't.

If you join WoW tomorrow, do you expect to beat a day 1 player by Friday? No. Because that's positively absurd.

if they expect to keep bringing in new players they have to do something. I mean whats the fun of being hammered by someone 10x stronger then you. I been here 3 months and getting a good 2 star team to go into PVP now (still hit the 3 star wall) but i was thinking of making a 2nd account and going onto tablet as well. I hate to say it but i doubt i would ever start playing this game from day 1 again if i had to start all over again. It wasnt that bad back in NOV but now its just WOW i hate to go back to day 1, and that is what is hurting this game i think. I have played more online games where i was more then happy to make a 2nd and 3rd account and go back to day 1 just to build were i was on my other accounts, This game though its just a drain playing one account.

The daily helps since you can jump in and play like 15mins and out.

"something" certainly isn't what this thread suggests. This is, if anything, the quickest way to bury the game.

evil panda

I wouldn't mind having a 2* only event. But not a 2* only season. Unless you want to run a concurrent normal season with the 2*

Oldboy

Someone (can't remember who) had previously suggested having different * category of pvp events running concurrently. Choosing one immediately locks you out of the others. Different rewards in each. Caters to all transitioners whether it's 1*/2*/3* transitioners and gives people a "difficulty category".

Each * category locks out higher * characters. Eg 2* category locks out 3* and 4* characters. Or could be something else.

emaker27

Something like this does need to be done, but rather than keep everyone in the same pool, you have minor and major leagues. You can only compete in one maybe to try and curb vets from taking every prize. This isn't a novel concept of course and has been mentioned before.

About me:
I'm a vet with 15+ maxed 3*s and blah blah. I'm also not one of those "you kids should have it just as hard as we did". While I did work "hard" for my roster, I did so with broken characters (Spidey, Sentry, etc) , less characters in rotation, and with a much smaller player base. Those facts seem to be missed on some of the long term players. Everyone shouldnt be able to max all characters instantly, but being able to complete a couple random 3* wouldn't hurt. That said, the Deadpool Daily goes a long way to helping players accomplish that.

Unknown

With the all the sharding they do behind the scenes, maybe they should just separate people into permanent leagues instead of almost always assigning the same guys to the same shards, and with a permanent structure it'd be a lot easier to enforce any particular rules for fairness.

Unknown

Arondite wrote:

Lirisisk wrote:

Well, Maybe in this forum are only vets,, is not a big chanhge this only increase the number of players fighting, i dnt think vet are afraid but this is like vets doesnt want the game become easy for new players cuz you allready have evrything, kinda selfIsh, or just dnt want more competition?

We don't want the game to become easy for new players because then it erases all the work done by the veterans and makes the game too baby-mode easy for new players, causing them to lose interest and leave.

Further, it's not about the new players. This change would be flat out unfair to players who have worked to create and build tier 1 rosters. This change would be spitting in their face.

Why unfair? is not gonna be easy, is just a chance to compete and play..

And i think the first cause to lose interest in this game, if you are new you cant enjoy pvp, i always see the same Guys in top 10 and many of them didnt need the prize, so they only want top 5 to sell 3 covers and get 3000 iso lol ,that makes me lose interést and leave. I only want a chance to compete in pvp cuz grind pve boring,

Here are more new Guys than vets so we need a changue,

Unknown

So, what is your "idea" ARONDITE, sit there and complain about new players ideas?,

This is like the típical veteran guy complainin about new changes, Taking this game to personal and agressive,

This kind of ideas comes cuz we are fighting whit more facts like rotation and oldies talkin about game time,

DDQ is really Good, but this was the cheaper way to make us happy, givin a random useless 3*(better than nothing) in a deadly wave,

Unknown

I think for half of the upcoming NFL season, they should use high school players rather than NFL players.

Then the high school players can earn millions of dollars a game for once. Gives them a chance to catch up to the NFL players.

Amidoinitrite?

Unknown

You think we have it easy. Try playing a supper scaled pve. I'm open for a pve with only 2* characters but not 50% of the season! like someone said before I paid my price before and had to go play a pvp with only 2*s once. I wish I had it easy like newbies have it now with guaranteed 2* drops after every fight and tons of ISO and hp.