4* at 1k

MajinDavid

So I'm just now realizing how much of a difference it is. Before they changed it I never got to 1300 points for a 4*. Now I have gotten 2. Both times it cost me some HP but at a major net gain. The first event was the blade event for elektra. It cost me 500 HP. But got 3rd place earning 100 HP back so 400 HP total. But the 4* upgrade being 2.5k and 3 covers at 1250 each for a total of 6250 if I used HP to get covers is a huge win. And last one was a red 4hor in storm event which cost me more to bad luck (unshield for one match and get hit). 900 HP and got 7th. 100 back for 800 spent. Again though 2.5k HP 4* cover and 2 at 1250 or 5k total. My new plan is save up HP a few events and when I have 1k again go for another 4*. My roster highs are xforce at 175 (5/5/3), 3* Thor at 166(3/5/5) Blade at 166 (3/5/5) Daken 166 (5/5/3) hulk 134 (5/3/5) hood 130 (5/5/3) mags 130 (5/5/2). My main team being thor/hood. So how about everyone else? Have y'all found it easier?

Unknown

So your idea is to inadvertently persuade the developers to raise the 4* progressive?

Unknown

It's appropriately difficult now. I would daresay only 1% of players are reaching it.

Don't jinx this, OP.

Unknown

It's perfect for me. I can reach it offensively but not defensively. If I wasn't getting pummeled due to my weak roster I could make it, but I still need to beef up strength to deter a few more people. The fact that a 4* is now obtainable, yet slightly out of reach, makes me enjoy this game.

MajinDavid

Moon 17 wrote:

It's appropriately difficult now. I would daresay only 1% of players are reaching it.

Don't jinx this, OP.

Not trying to jinx it. Its not something I can get every event. As you said about 1%. I'm just wondering who else gets to be in that 1% now and then now that its at a reasonable spot or progression

Unknown

how many fights are you doing per hop?

orbitalint

Personally, the new progressions enticed me to go after the 3* for the first time ever. Got my last blade purple for about 600 HP. When XF green comes along, might punch my way up for that one too (2/5/3 is pretty underwhelming atm).

Honestly, I think they might be making more money now with the progressions. It is a risk and gamble but I am open to draining 300-500 HP for a cover, which wasn't the case before. I am pretty HP neutral in PVP and mostly F2P ($60 in over a year of play). I was definitely a person that never bothered past 800 because I wasn't making it to the 3* and 4* covers, regardless of shields. So, most events I didn't spend any HP or came out no worse off after a 75 HP shield. Now, I'll consider dropping 4 times that to get a cover I want. And I can't be the only one thinking like this. Grab enough people like me but who actually will buy HP to do it and seems win-win for the devs and us.

Unknown

I can hit 1000 with about 225 HP.

Very pleased with the change.

Demiurge_Will

We took a look at the numbers after the change and I'm pretty happy with where they're at. A few more people are getting a score of 1000 than used to hit 1300 before shield cooldowns, but not by a ton, and it seems right that it's a little easier to earn 4*s now that there are more of them around.

(Like everything in the game, we're always evaluating things, so this isn't a promise that it'll stay this way forever, but you don't have to worry that comments like this are going to cause us to raise the threshold for the 4*.)

MajinDavid

Kriegerbot wrote:

how many fights are you doing per hop?

Was doing 2 on average. I think the main reason the elektra cover came easier was that blade was boosted with a max daken and Thor backing him up and that's a suprisingly fast and mean team.

Phaserhawk

I think the ease of hitting 1000 is more about what the 3* rewards are. When newer characters are the prize, you obviously see a big jump in scores and it's easier to hit 1000, but when say the top prize is going to be Patch, my thought is getting to 1000 will be harder than getting to 1000 if Luke Cage was the 3*.

mohio

Do you mind explaining why you want to keep using LT/hood instead of xforce? Don't get me wrong I love LT and used him all the time before sentry and the xforce buff. But xforce is incredibly fun to use and with a few more levels (or maybe even already?) I'd say he's also more powerful than LT. I'm guessing the answer is pve scaling but he's great there too and likely worth all the levels you give him. Just wondering.

SodaPopinski

mohio wrote:

Do you mind explaining why you want to keep using LT/hood instead of xforce? Don't get me wrong I love LT and used him all the time before sentry and the xforce buff. But xforce is incredibly fun to use and with a few more levels (or maybe even already?) I'd say he's also more powerful than LT. I'm guessing the answer is pve scaling but he's great there too and likely worth all the levels you give him. Just wondering.

I was thinking the same thing. I kept him at 180 (fully covered) because of scaling and he does plenty of damage at that level. Everyone has their favorites though and Lthor is not exactly bagman. It just made me curious....

GrumpySmurf1002

Phaserhawk wrote:

I think the ease of hitting 1000 is more about what the 3* rewards are. When newer characters are the prize, you obviously see a big jump in scores and it's easier to hit 1000, but when say the top prize is going to be Patch, my thought is getting to 1000 will be harder than getting to 1000 if Luke Cage was the 3*.

It's a combination of that and the featured. I think 1k will be pretty tough in Starlord, both with Spidey as a goal and with a giant target as a featured, save for the few who went out and maxed him immediately.

Unknown

I mean, the thing about a lot of the players hitting 1K is that they already have maxed out 4-star characters. So, it's not like a ton of players are getting ones that they didn't already have.

MajinDavid

mohio wrote:

Do you mind explaining why you want to keep using LT/hood instead of xforce? Don't get me wrong I love LT and used him all the time before sentry and the xforce buff. But xforce is incredibly fun to use and with a few more levels (or maybe even already?) I'd say he's also more powerful than LT. I'm guessing the answer is pve scaling but he's great there too and likely worth all the levels you give him. Just wondering.

Was using Thor cause with the 2 characters on that event it was full rainbow with 3 characters the ai can't mess up with no overlapping colors. For storm I mixed it up and in the end was using xforce for final 200. Also another reason I use Thor more is he was my first maxed 3* so kinda sentiMENTAL with him. Lol

Unknown

I think it's still too hard to get that 1k reward, and since that's the only way to get 4* characters without being super-lucky, that's effectively a brick wall. Let's not include winning the PVP in that, because you won't be doing that until after you've earned 1000 points.

If you can't get past 805 points using two level 166's and a 256 LazyThor, then the goal is set too high. That effective prevents the 3-4 transition without spending money, which I think is the point? Am I wrong about this? Is spending money the official next step? Because if it isn't, then there needs to be a slightly less than astronomical chance of getting my last few X-Forces. Starlords, Elektras, whatever.

I mean, if the only way to earn a 4* character is to already have one maxed, then there really is no middle class.

Spoit

I dunno, it seems like 1k is waaaay easier to hit than 1300 was, post time slices. sure you hit dead MMR zones, but it's way easier to climb the last 300 from the 700ish baseline now than to go the 500 points from the safe-ish zone around 800 points in the past, especially when all you can find are sub-20 point targets

Nellobee

You can always save up HP 25 or 50 at a time to make the 4* transition.

RWTDBurn

Sasquatchkid wrote:

I mean, the thing about a lot of the players hitting 1K is that they already have maxed out 4-star characters. So, it's not like a ton of players are getting ones that they didn't already have.

A lot are, but there are several that may only have 1 or 2 4* maxed and are missing a lot of covers for the others. If D3 is looking to make the 3* to 4* jump more manageable for those that have already transitioned to a healthy 3* roster but don't drop serious $$$ on the game then 1K is a good mark. It's easier to hit than the old 1300 target, but not too easy to reach so that players will just skip the 3* transition and try to jump from 2* to 4*. It might be wishful thinking, but hopefully it will help people max out other 4* characters so we might see just a little bit more variety than the current xforce/4hor combo.

MojoWild

I also managed to get the Elektra and Thor covers, but have up on the Fury. It's still a but of a grind after 750 or so but possible.
I had to carefully plan out the cool downs though so I didn't find myself stuck with having to use a day shield. Like actually write it down on paper...