Supposing you get to vote on the next character release...

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rednailz wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

I suspect Marvel will also start tinkering with origins retroactively; I wouldn't be at all surprised if Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch become Inhumans in official Marvel continuity, for example, and go back to not being Magneto's children.

If I was still involved in any modern marvel comics reading and I came accross that I would be enraged. I assume same would bode for Polaris as well. So, they'd ruin the "family dynamic", which is a huge and interesting driver on the story.

I get marvel is re-writing everything for a 'modern' crowd and to freshen up storylines instead or continueing on rehashing, and as a business they need to make money and get new readers....but there is a lot of good story they are axing for newer weaker story. A lot of the days of marvel's best writers and artists are behind them.

Polaris has gone back and forth about being Magneto's daughter over and over again, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't change her, since Fox almost certainly has her either way. If Marvel changed Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, it would likely be to make their movie origin their "official" one, which they've done multiple times with characters. Keep in mind, making them Magneto's children was a retcon when they first did it.

rednailz

Ben Grimm wrote:

rednailz wrote:

Ben Grimm wrote:

I suspect Marvel will also start tinkering with origins retroactively; I wouldn't be at all surprised if Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch become Inhumans in official Marvel continuity, for example, and go back to not being Magneto's children.

If I was still involved in any modern marvel comics reading and I came accross that I would be enraged. I assume same would bode for Polaris as well. So, they'd ruin the "family dynamic", which is a huge and interesting driver on the story.

I get marvel is re-writing everything for a 'modern' crowd and to freshen up storylines instead or continueing on rehashing, and as a business they need to make money and get new readers....but there is a lot of good story they are axing for newer weaker story. A lot of the days of marvel's best writers and artists are behind them.

Polaris has gone back and forth about being Magneto's daughter over and over again, but I wouldn't be surprised if they don't change her, since Fox almost certainly has her either way. If Marvel changed Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, it would likely be to make their movie origin their "official" one, which they've done multiple times with characters. Keep in mind, making them Magneto's children was a retcon when they first did it.

Yeah, good points. Although days of future past basically spelled out mags was their papa....but I guess they could tweak that or just abandon it. Coherient storyline in movies, especially with piles of reboots isn't a priority I don't think.

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rednailz wrote:

Yeah, good points. Although days of future past basically spelled out mags was their papa....but I guess they could tweak that or just abandon it. Coherient storyline in movies, especially with piles of reboots isn't a priority I don't think.

I think that was around when it first happened - when the characters were first introduced in the early 60s they weren't Magneto's children, but they became his kids 15-20 years later, if I remember right.

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I would love Strange, Cyclops, and Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

rednailz

Ben Grimm wrote:

rednailz wrote:

Yeah, good points. Although days of future past basically spelled out mags was their papa....but I guess they could tweak that or just abandon it. Coherient storyline in movies, especially with piles of reboots isn't a priority I don't think.

I think that was around when it first happened - when the characters were first introduced in the early 60s they weren't Magneto's children, but they became his kids 15-20 years later, if I remember right.

No I think you are right...although I'm not an expert on the old school xmen. Haven't really got into them. I've heard to story and writing is ok for the most part but not great. The books didn't do too well.

Square

GuiltTrip wrote:

My comment about downplaying mutants was more about the Marvel Universe in general. Can you name the last "new" mutant that was created in the Marvel Universe, and when? I certainly can name a number of "new" Inhumans in the past few months. They don't want any new IP that might take off, to fall under some other company's movie rights. It totally makes sense from a business standpoint.

When Uncanny X-Men was relaunched at Marvel by putting their #1 writer (Bendis) on it in late 2012, they introduced a whole new team of mutants, five or six new characters. Before that, in the year or two before, Jason Aaron created a load of new mutants in Wolverine and the X-Men. So, since the big Inhuman event one year ago, there haven't been a slew of characters. But I don't consider it a corporate mandate, since the books seem over-populated as it is.

<edit> I just remembered the Battle of the Atom crossover a year and a bit back. They introduced a new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants team, and a future X-Men team, both with a slew of new characters (as well as aged characters). The X-Men aren't hurting for new mutant characters.

For Inhumans, there aren't that many new ones, except the direct ones out of the event. I do think they're here to stay, what with the movie coming out. But I don't see Inhumans comics replacing X-Men any time soon, without some great hooks. So far, it's nothing special.

Even look at Fantastic Four. Marvel relaunched it as a pair of books in 2012 with another top writer, Matt Fraction. It flopped. They cancelled it. They launched it again with a major DC writer they had pulled away from the company, James Robinson. It also flopped. And then the Internet says it's Marvel's revenge on Fox to teach them a lesson over movie rights.

Common logic would say, X-Men sells, so they publish lots, and keep growing the line. Fantastic Four doesn't, so the line shrinks (and keeps getting rebooted).

I don't know what this means to D3. I'm sure their contact with Marvel is removed from the publishing arm, and instead the licensing arm. All I know is, lots of mutants at Marvel, and lots of them in this game, which says to me there is no strong arm tactics when creating new characters.

morph3us

Ben Grimm wrote:

My guess is that, when he won the contest, they hadn't done anything at all towards designing the character, and so he entered the pipeline at that point, and had a ton of hurdles to clear before he could be made. I suspect character development is a fairly slow process, and Marvel may need to approve at multiple stages of development.

This. I'm also guessing that Gambit is likely to make use of Charged Tiles, so getting him properly balanced in terms of TGT is probably a tricky affair (as opposition, he makes her weaker by springboarding off her charged tiles, but in combination with her, they could be potentially vastly overpowered).

TazFTW

Marvel is supposedly heading towards merging the Ultimate universe with the 616, so it wouldn't surprise me to see Miles Morales get a release.

Although I would rather see Anya Corazon, Spider-Gwen, Mayday Parker and Jessica Drew before him.

GuntherBlobel

Since Dr. Strange is leading the poll, I wanted to share this teaser that I recently found (although it's from August).

Joe Fletcher interview:
There’s a Colossus-sized universe of Strange stories we can tell.

https://disneynerd.wordpress.com/2014/0 ... zle-quest/

For some reason we got Colossus but not Strange. I bet he's done and the Devs are waiting for the right time to release him. I think he would be a great character to manipulate AP... like Starlord apparently will. (I hope they didn't rework Strange to create Starlord).

ronin_san

This sort of discussion is exactly why I posted the poll. I wanted discussion as to why these characters would or wouldn't work.

Iceman is a no-brainer, as we need blue generation, freezy chilly damage at high level. I'm biased. I dig Iceman.

The SInister Six ALL make sense for the game, especially Kraven (traps, poisons, attack / strike tiles), Mysterio (traps, misdirection; you could destroy your tiles instead of his, theatrics and countdowns), Goblins (boom-boom tiles, poison, razor bat and flying glider attack), Vulture could have an attack that does a true heal, Lizard could have a tail whip, slash, and a true heal.........

Sabretooth has so many abilities, in my mind, including a heal whenever he damages you, having your scent and doing extra damage PERMANENTLY eg Deadpool slash tile, etc.... He's a psychopath. He's the sort of guy that "takes pleasure in gutting you, boy".

Luke Cage's abilities could have just as well been translated to Thing...

Gambit with his charge tiles, staff attack, 52 pick-up, etc...

Nightcrawler could be the new Hood, passively teleporting and draining one AP per turn whenever his countdown tile is on the board. He could have a passive riposte that does match damage as some sort of swashbuckler ability, and a teleport attack like Loki but that actually does MASSIVE dmg..

Unknown

other: iron fist

i want this sooooooooooooooooo badly.

also, cable too

iLL619

Gambit Carnage Bishop my vote but anyone on that list I would be happy with.. Star Lord Squirrel girl?! Why bring these new characters in?! Listen to people who pay (some of us) to keep y'all in business and give us the characters we want D3!?!?

iLL619

ronin-san wrote:

This sort of discussion is exactly why I posted the poll. I wanted discussion as to why these characters would or wouldn't work.

Iceman is a no-brainer, as we need blue generation, freezy chilly damage at high level. I'm biased. I dig Iceman.

The SInister Six ALL make sense for the game, especially Kraven (traps, poisons, attack / strike tiles), Mysterio (traps, misdirection; you could destroy your tiles instead of his, theatrics and countdowns), Goblins (boom-boom tiles, poison, razor bat and flying glider attack), Vulture could have an attack that does a true heal, Lizard could have a tail whip, slash, and a true heal.........

Sabretooth has so many abilities, in my mind, including a heal whenever he damages you, having your scent and doing extra damage PERMANENTLY eg Deadpool slash tile, etc.... He's a psychopath. He's the sort of guy that "takes pleasure in gutting you, boy".

Luke Cage's abilities could have just as well been translated to Thing...

Gambit with his charge tiles, staff attack, 52 pick-up, etc...

Nightcrawler could be the new Hood, passively teleporting and draining one AP per turn whenever his countdown tile is on the board. He could have a passive riposte that does match damage as some sort of swashbuckler ability, and a teleport attack like Loki but that actually does MASSIVE dmg..

Agreed.. Well said

iLL619

jzahm wrote:

other: iron fist

i want this sooooooooooooooooo badly.

also, cable too

I would like to see them too