Poll - ISO gathered per week

Moon Roach

Just wondering how much we get.

I'm thinking of tracking all my ISO acquisition during February for both accounts and posting the results. It would be broken down by PvE, PvP, daily rewards, whatever else I can think of.

Would anyone else join in?

Nellobee

I honestly don't track my ISO. 50k/wk maybe? I play most pvps above 600 and most pves past the progression rewards.

DrStrange-616

I'll try to pay attention to it this week. I know I spend a lot of what I make, except for the big end of mission awards, on skips and boosts. It'll be interesting to track in this double ISO pvp. I'll bet I barely break even.

dkffiv

I think on average I make 70k a week. Almost all of that is from lightning rounds. PvE gives great rewards the first day then you're battered with 20 ISO rewards. If you're boosting you end up losing a lot (I think I spent 60k or so in boosts for the Elektra release PvE). PvP is barely a net gain, a lot is used at 650+ in boosts. Only way to gain ISO is to play lightning rounds.

Unknown

I'm probably averaging around 40-50k/week but it's hard to tell as I usually spend it as fast as I get it. I will try to track it in Feb.

Unknown

According to the spreadsheet I use to track my characters (and ISO needed/spent), I've averaged about 14k per day since day 1. Since I know I'm getting a lot more now than I was at first (though possibly not as much as I did at peak), I'm assuming it's probably 15k-17k per day now, or just over 100k per week.

Unknown

930 k in December.

20k average per day since day 1.

GrumpySmurf1002

I started tracking 12/3/14, and am at a hair under 12k per day on average.

My sheets been evolving so I have to subtotal the event data for December still. For 2015, it's breaks out:

PvP: 104070
PvE: 105020
Lightning Rounds: 17090
Daily: 6560
Tokens and sold 3* covers: 61450
Total 294190

Working on the ROI of a PvP battle, looks like it's around 140 per; 160 if I include the victory bonus/skip tax. Results on the latter will vary obviously. This doesn't take into account progression, simply the return on winning a single PvP battle. Squirrel Girl's about to throw me off.

I don't keep track of PvE battles, mostly because as the limit approaches infinity there, the ROI is 20, so I don't think there's a true number to be found there.

edit: just to add, the pve, pvp numbers take into account all rewards (personal and alliance), progression, boosts, cover and iso drops. PvP also includes season sim.

Unknown

If I were to estimate, I'd say around 35k per week.

El Satanno

Moon Roach wrote:

Just wondering how much we get.

I'm thinking of tracking all my ISO acquisition during February for both accounts and posting the results. It would be broken down by PvE, PvP, daily rewards, whatever else I can think of.

Would anyone else join in?

I'm down. I like this sort of ****. If you plan on having a spreadsheet or something you could share or post to google docs, that would make it easier. PM me if you want to collaborate on any of the details.

Ryz-aus

El Satanno wrote:

Moon Roach wrote:

Just wondering how much we get.

I'm thinking of tracking all my ISO acquisition during February for both accounts and posting the results. It would be broken down by PvE, PvP, daily rewards, whatever else I can think of.

Would anyone else join in?

I'm down. I like this sort of ****. If you plan on having a spreadsheet or something you could share or post to google docs, that would make it easier. PM me if you want to collaborate on any of the details.

I might join in on this too - I really haven't bothered to track it at all.

Druss

must admit to being boggled by the numbers shown here - i'm sure its a lot lower - really some getting 100k+ a week?

breaking down a week you have 2 1/2 PvP's, 24 LR's & 1-2 PvE's

lets assume that each battle is worth 20 points in PvP (is probably more especially early so number of battles will be less, therefore less iso) & a decent score without having to spend iso on boosts is 600, that's 30 battles

Again assuming 180 a battle on average (including the 30 non skip bonus) that's 5400 iso. Times 2.5 = 13,500 iso

Lightning Rounds: Assuming your really dedicated the maximum realistic ones of these hit would be 18. Don't know average score on these but from my own experience these get very hard about points total 171 (lets assume that's about 10 battles). 10 x 180 = 1800 per LR. That's 32400 in total

So far at 45900.

Can you get another 55k from PvE? Ok I can concede 10-20k for first time sub clearances over the week but an awful lot of 20iso nodes required to get anywhere near 100k.

I'm sure the argument will be : I get more than that in PvP or LR - but is this really easy to do non boosted? Also, to do all of the above, even without doing more, would require a significant time outlay

Bowgentle

Druss wrote:

must admit to being boggled by the numbers shown here - i'm sure its a lot lower - really some getting 100k+ a week?

breaking down a week you have 2 1/2 PvP's, 24 LR's & 1-2 PvE's

Placement rewards in PVP: 5000 for T5 three times per week, plus another 5000 for alliance - 10K per PVP for the top-top players, 6K (2X3K) for the good players.
Progression rewards in PVP: 1K at 700, 1K at 1000, 1K at 1200. So realistically 2K.
PVP alone can get you between 13K (t10 alliance) and 8K (t25 alliance) - that's three times per week, so between 39K and 24K for PVP alone - disregarding the ISO per match, which will be spent on skipping and boosts anyway.
LR: 3K per LR, including progression rewards, and selling of covers for PVP fights. I don't get the 20K per day of LRs, because that would mean being able to drop anything you're doing every two hours and play for half an hour, but 4 LRs are certainly doable (1 in the morning, 1 at lunch, 2 in the evening) = 12K per day, let's say 28K (1 full day, two half days)
PVE: Yeah, some ISO there. But once you need to use boosts for the fights, it's either a wash or it costs upwards of 10K to place t10.

So, disregarding the ISO spent on PVEs, I'd say a top player can realistically make between 55 and 75K ISO per week, while still having a life.

If you're willing to put MQP first and ignore everything I'm sure you can make 120K+ easily.

GrumpySmurf1002

Druss wrote:

must admit to being boggled by the numbers shown here - i'm sure its a lot lower - really some getting 100k+ a week?

breaking down a week you have 2 1/2 PvP's, 24 LR's & 1-2 PvE's

lets assume that each battle is worth 20 points in PvP (is probably more especially early so number of battles will be less, therefore less iso) & a decent score without having to spend iso on boosts is 600, that's 30 battles

Again assuming 180 a battle on average (including the 30 non skip bonus) that's 5400 iso. Times 2.5 = 13,500 iso

Lightning Rounds: Assuming your really dedicated the maximum realistic ones of these hit would be 18. Don't know average score on these but from my own experience these get very hard about points total 171 (lets assume that's about 10 battles). 10 x 180 = 1800 per LR. That's 32400 in total

So far at 45900.

Can you get another 55k from PvE? Ok I can concede 10-20k for first time sub clearances over the week but an awful lot of 20iso nodes required to get anywhere near 100k.

I'm sure the argument will be : I get more than that in PvP or LR - but is this really easy to do non boosted? Also, to do all of the above, even without doing more, would require a significant time outlay

You're missing a bunch. If you're in an active alliance, it's 1400 per week minimum.
It's 3 PvPs per week, not 2.5. So 5400 x 3 = 16200. Plus progression (at 600, it's 350 per), plus rewards(personal/alliance). That varies, but probably another 2-3k per PvP, call it 7k total. So 23200 from PvP.

Now you're at 55.6k before even talking about PvE.

Yes, there's a time outlay, but any competitive player in this game is playing a bunch, unless they're strictly PvP. According to Steam, I'm around 35 hours/week, but that counts all the time where the game is idle on my PC while I'm doing other things. I'm probably active 25-30 in there. 2-3 hrs or so during the week (12.5), 5-6 during the weekend (11.5).

MPQ = 2nd job, without the pay.

Unknown

Bowgentle wrote:

PVE: Yeah, some ISO there. But once you need to use boosts for the fights, it's either a wash or it costs upwards of 10K to place t10.

I almost never boost in PVE, and have gotten top ten multiple times without using a single boost. I'm not sure for exact amounts in PVE - it varies wildly, because an event with short subs might easily get you 2-3 times as much ISO as one with long subs - but I'd guess I get more ISO from PVE than PVP, sometimes by a lot. A nice, ISO-rich PVP, like the Hunt has been, might be 5k a day by itself while the subs are all running. There's a lot of 500 ISO rewards in those things.

Bowgentle

Ben Grimm wrote:

Bowgentle wrote:

PVE: Yeah, some ISO there. But once you need to use boosts for the fights, it's either a wash or it costs upwards of 10K to place t10.

I almost never boost in PVE, and have gotten top ten multiple times without using a single boost. I'm not sure for exact amounts in PVE - it varies wildly, because an event with short subs might easily get you 2-3 times as much ISO as one with long subs - but I'd guess I get more ISO from PVE than PVP, sometimes by a lot. A nice, ISO-rich PVP, like the Hunt has been, might be 5k a day by itself while the subs are all running. There's a lot of 500 ISO rewards in those things.

Yeah, but you're in some weird scaling/MMR limbo where 800 gets you t10 in PVP, too.

Marty17

It's quite hard for me to track how much I get in a week. But I have been tracking my characters from roughly lvl 50-75 to max them to lvl 166 takes me a fortnight to do so. At the moment, I'm not meeting that target, day 12 & my character is lvl 136.

JamieMadrox

I ballpark 30k+/week. Top 5 individual top 25 alliance rewards for 3x PVP alone is 24k. If I bothered with LRs and did more PVE I'd likely double that, but who has the time to be THAT hardcore? Looks at Locked

SnowcaTT

I've never actually looked. I'd guess 40-60K (I voted the low end of that) - I play a LOT of LR's (obviously).

xKOBALTx

I think quite a few people would be pretty surprised by how much ISO they actually earned if they tracked it. I've been tracking the last couple of months, because I wanted to see how well my ISO was keeping up with character releases. Since the Groot release on 11/25 I've spent 918k ISO just on my characters. That's basically been 9 weeks, so just a fraction above 100k per week. That doesn't count boosting or skip tax.

Now, do I think I'm average or lower on earning? No. I definitely think I'm on the high end, but not on the super-crazy high end. I value my sleep, so I don't super grind for the most part. I don't complete anywhere near all of the LR's. I do boost more than I'd like to keep up sometimes. This season has shifted a couple of my previous earnings. I've been pretty much hitting 800 in PvP and calling it a day this season (so less ISO there), but I'm a new alliance that hits higher placement pretty regularly (so more ISO there).

I actually voted for 80-90 before I checked my spreadsheet. I was surprised to find it even higher than I thought and I thought it was higher than most probably do. I'm interested to see the results of any others that started tracking based off of this poll.

Moon Roach

I updated my roster spread sheet with some interesting VLOOKUP formulae, and figured out how much I'd spent on levelling characters, divided by what my last daily reward number is, multiplied by 7, took away the number I first thought of, consulted the entrails of a squirrel, and ended up with a minimum ISO gain per week.

Naturally the total used to derive that doesn't include ISO spending on boosts and skip tax, so these are probably low by several hundred:

Moon Roach averages 69600
Wolveroach averages 16750

That's a surprise to me.