Most important suggestion

Hulk11
Hulk11 Posts: 435
edited January 2014 in MPQ General Discussion
The biggest improvement to the game would be to allow people to buy powers for their characters. Maybe even someday buy the characters, but right now the powers need to be able to be purchased. It wouldn't change people from still trying to earn powers, but being able to purchase the powers, not just being able to buy the power upgrades after buying them needs to be possible. I've got this posted in suggestions as well, but since general gets more views I'll post it here too.
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  • I disagree. Being able to buy any characters power right away makes the game more pay to play (than it already is haha). By having people find covers first it helps even out the playing field a little bit. Back when Rags was OP you had to at least earn his colors before you could max him out. I believe that really helped keep the amount of maxed out rags down as well.
  • Been playing since day one...I think it has been asked before though searching in the forum didn't come up with strong results. I think its kept this way so that players feel accomplished when they get that cover they really wanted and because you can't buy them directly that you have to spend HP on a chance of getting the one you wanted. Sometimes you get lucky and spend 100 hp on a heroic pack and get the blue spidey...or sometimes you get a green thor. I think this is part of their game design/business model and that probably won't change...though who knows.
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    I only mean that you can buy the powers after first getting the character/power already. That way you needed to earn it first, and then you can freely spend and work with the characters you choose, but of course it go against you if you sell that character off, but it's already in place for powers you already have, so it's the same system essentially but way more freedom, and for the hardcore players they will always use anything like this to dominate anyway. But for the rest of us it gives us more freedom to play how we want.
  • This is a BAD idea! For both players and the devs. Would give more power to the paying players, and severely cut into sales of combo packs for covers. Just play the game , spend a little here and there and you will get what you want eventually.
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    Sometimes you get lucky and spend 100 hp on a heroic pack and get the blue spidey...or sometimes you get a green thor. I think this is part of their game design/business model and that probably won't change...though who knows.

    I understand this format, but to them it would seem way more profitable to get players to spend money by knowing what they get. Sure it may work to get some people to want to take a chance, but a great majority wants to spend their money on something they choose. That's just common nature, and for me I'd put money into something like that, and I'm sure more people would too. In part it seems they would be holding their game and profits back by not going that route. Some money gained by doing it this way seems better than some players not spending any money at all.
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    edited January 2014
    Bucky76 wrote:
    This is a BAD idea! For both players and the devs. Would give more power to the paying players, and severely cut into sales of combo packs for covers. Just play the game , spend a little here and there and you will get what you want eventually.

    This is the direction they are going, they aren't going to give the non-paying players more "power" than the paying ones. Just take all the purchaseable items for example that are in the game already. They aren't going to go backwards on that phylosophy and suddenly make the non-paying players more powerful or have more freedoms. Maybe something like that already exists in the game but I haven't found it.

    How much have you actually spent on a pack or character? I mean actual dollars and not in game rewards. I'll be honest and say none for me.
  • have I actually spent? bought about $50.00 usd worth of packs to date. Do I think it'll be easier to just buy the packs? yes..do I think its necessary? eh? dunno.
  • The devs have always geared this game to enticing you into making pulls for covers. Without the need to 'get lucky' for that first cover, you greatly reduce the urge to spend HP on a pull.
  • Hulk11 wrote:
    Sometimes you get lucky and spend 100 hp on a heroic pack and get the blue spidey...or sometimes you get a green thor. I think this is part of their game design/business model and that probably won't change...though who knows.

    I understand this format, but to them it would seem way more profitable to get players to spend money by knowing what they get. Sure it may work to get some people to want to take a chance, but a great majority wants to spend their money on something they choose. That's just common nature, and for me I'd put money into something like that, and I'm sure more people would too. In part it seems they would be holding their game and profits back by not going that route. Some money gained by doing it this way seems better than some players not spending any money at all.

    You do get to pick your power...once you've unlocked a cover you can pump as much HP into that cover as you want.
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    Toxicadam wrote:
    The devs have always geared this game to enticing you into making pulls for covers. Without the need to 'get lucky' for that first cover, you greatly reduce the urge to spend HP on a pull.

    Notice my main point is that you cannot buy the "first" cover that is somethin you have to do the regular way. I'm refering to once you get the first one you can buy all powers for it, if you choose, aka-using gold.
  • Hulk11 wrote:
    Bucky76 wrote:
    This is a BAD idea! For both players and the devs. Would give more power to the paying players, and severely cut into sales of combo packs for covers. Just play the game , spend a little here and there and you will get what you want eventually.

    How much have you actually spent on a pack or character? I mean actual dollars and not in game rewards. I'll be honest and say none for me.

    I've spent probably close to $200 ... I went a little crazy buying health packs and cover packs during first Hulk event to win it icon_lol.gif I am a point where I feel like I don't need to spend much now , I can compete or wait for covers I want.
    The randomness of the multi cover packs is what makes people keep buying , the chance of getting what you want ...if they just let us buy once , finish the character and be done is not good for the devs long term.
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    edited January 2014
    I'm refering to once you get the first one you can buy all powers for it, if you choose, aka-using gold.

    Unless I am playing a different game or misunderstanding you, I believe you can?

    I've bought a few blue Spidey covers for 1150 hero points each.
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    You do get to pick your power...once you've unlocked a cover you can pump as much HP into that cover as you want.

    I'm refering to once you initially earn/gain/luck of the draw and gain the "1st" one you can buy the thereafter powers and colors for it. Only once you first gained the character obviously.
  • Hulk11 wrote:
    You do get to pick your power...once you've unlocked a cover you can pump as much HP into that cover as you want.

    I'm refering to once you initially earn/gain/luck of the draw and gain the "1st" one you can buy the thereafter powers and colors for it. Only once you first gained the character obviously.


    Oh, we're looking at this in different ways. The devs want you to 'get' one copy of all the characters. That way you need/want to unlock 30 spaces for covers.

    THEN they want you to chase down the other covers (some harder to get than others) in an effort to fully utilize the hero.

    It's no coincidence that a characters most useful ability is usually the rarer one to earn/draw. (Thor's Red, Spidey's Blue, C.Storm's Blue all come to mind)
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    [/quote] Oh, we're looking at this in different ways. The devs want you to 'get' one copy of all the characters.[/quote]

    I understand this, but since they are always using these events to add characters, i don't see why that isn't possible, if you are already interested in doing so. Even if they want you to collect them all, they already make it possible to sell off covers so you don't have to collect them all. My suggestion is more related to customizing/ultilzing the characters you decide to keep.
  • I'm not keen on the nerfs that happened and will happen but I'm definitely defending the Gamble/Random aspect of procuring covers. Slot machining for covers is one of the ways players spend HP and can purchase more for it. Take that away...what will people spend money on? And I'm sure not that many people spend money as there are alot of free players here. This game doesn't run on subscription, a big launch day to sell 3 million copies at $50.00 a pop...this is just how they decide to have the game. Basics are functions are free for players and for those who want to advance ahead a little faster they can spend some cash. I'll welcome the sale of new covers (I'm still missing mag blue) but i'm guessing it'll be three times the price of leveling the power to make up for lost margin. (4500 hp for a 3 star new cover)
  • Hulk11
    Hulk11 Posts: 435
    I'm not keen on the nerfs that happened and will happen but I'm definitely defending the Gamble/Random aspect of procuring covers. Slot machining for covers is one of the ways players spend HP and can purchase more for it. Take that away...what will people spend money on? And I'm sure not that many people spend money as there are alot of free players here. This game doesn't run on subscription, a big launch day to sell 3 million copies at $50.00 a pop...this is just how they decide to have the game. Basics are functions are free for players and for those who want to advance ahead a little faster they can spend some cash. I'll welcome the sale of new covers (I'm still missing mag blue) but i'm guessing it'll be three times the price of leveling the power to make up for lost margin. (4500 hp for a 3 star new cover)


    From reading this I, we agree that not a lot of people are paying money for this. Or at least the ratio can't be close. And if something like this can change that would it be a bad thing? Maybe they would keep it this way to make the game stay small, but I doubt that because of this new sheild thing especially. They want to add ways to spend money, and this is one more, and to me and maybe alot of other free players this is one way that I would spend money and not on a sheild.
  • So in summary you urge them to strip-mine the arena take the money and run?

    If you assign too much power to things paid for directly it will eliminate the non-payers. They leave, you're heading a closed arena where everyone uses the same overpowered maxed team. Any new investor looks at the thing and will decide to pass. Good work, you sacrificed a potentially long-standing epic for withdrawing some cash, I'd bet not even too much of it.

    If a stable ecosystem forms around this game it may have benefits to Marvel or devs on different channels making up for the imagined loss of selling HP/ISO, covers and other stuff.
  • I think it's also about how a player feels when they pull that cover they really wanted and has been their white whale. I was pretty stoked when I got my Hood Blue the other day...FROM A STANDARD PACK! icon_e_biggrin.gif
  • If you can buy the power you don't have, then the sales for the heroic recruit token will probably go way down. Even if you make it cost double, so it'd be 2500 for a 3 star cover you don't have, I can guaranteed you 99% it is fair more likely you won't get whatever 3 star cover you're looking for by spending 2500 worth of heroic recruit tokens. Even if say you bought a 'guaranteed XYZ' pack, it's still 1/3 you'd have the cover you want. This, in the long run, is going to hurt the game's financial viability.

    I'm assuming people do spend HP on heroic recruit tokens. If this isn't true, then it'd make sense to sell covers directly, simply because you're not selling anything successfully so might as well increase your options.