Pvp 1300 point

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If you can only hit 500-600 it's likely prohibitive to try to hit 1300. Well, technically if it cost less than 2500 HP it's okay, but at that range you're talking more like spend 1000 HP and have a 40% chance of hitting 1300, which averages out to 2500 HP but is an awfully large risk to take. You won't necessarily be able to even spend more because you'd start running into time issues, as you do need a good amount of time to get your shield to clear out all your retaliations even if HP is no concern.

Chrono_Tata

Just want to chime in as well that I have a level 180-something X-Force at 5/2/4 and a Hood at 5/5/3, and I can use these two to shield hop to 1300 with a bit of effort (actually I just won blue Thoria with them and took #1 in my bracket). Even without max black on X-Force, you can use max green to wipe out everything. And a level 180 X-Force will easily take down a level 270 one if you can activate your green first, which is not difficult if you go in the match with green AP boost.

However if your X-Force neither have black or green maxed, you might have a bad time.

http://imgur.com/PeHWx11
http://imgur.com/APQvO3b

avs962

Shadow wrote:

onimus wrote:

I've never seen anyone get 1300 that didn't have a 5/5/3 Xforce above level 200. And that was likely through excessive shield hopping.

Sorry to disappoint but my xforce isn't above 200. It is at exactly 200 though. As for scoring, I have achieved above 1700 before and hitting 1300 pretty regularly. So, there isn't a need to get xforce above 200. Especially when the difference between 200 and 270 is very marginal. I'd much rather level another 3* to 166 then spend the iso to max xforce. Also, I currently have 435k iso so the iso isn't really an issue either. It's just a choice.

Anyway, to address the topic at hand, to step up to 1300 from just 500 is a very huge leap. Should try to achieve smaller targets like 1100 or even getting all the hp that's in the progression by reaching 800 before going for the big one. But then again, you're probably out of time since the new client release should be out before TBC ends which likely means the PvP after TBC isn't going to allow shield hopping.

I've reached 1300 exactly twice, so I'm definitely not lighting the world on fire, but my X-Force sits comfortably at level 70 at 2/2/3. My first time was with Patch and BP in the Nick Fury tournament, and the second was with Torch and Hood in Heavy Metal.

But, to the topic on hand, this ^^ exactly, it takes some feeling out to really get a hold of pvp and be able to reach high points. I recommend just trying to hit the other milestones first before making such a dramatic leap.

EstherC

A90, you have an awesome roster compared to mine and i'm hitting 650-700 with 1 shield hop. So you definitely have a chance of hitting 1000+ points.

hood is a A team useful support character as he steals AP for you and can accelerate your countdowns. His yellow is pointless (since it ends the turn). He can be paired with most attack characters so you should level him.

You have Lcap and Lthor which are incredibly meaty, same for Xforce. I think you should be fine. Maybe you are not skipping enough nodes to find matches worth taking.

Ryz-aus

It also helps to be in an end time with lots of high scorers. Making 1300 in slice 4 or 5 this pvp is much easier then doing it at an earlier end time.

Unknown

There is no "normal" way of reaching 1300 unless you do one of the two:

1) Shield hop to it with sentry/hood or xf/daken or w/e fast combo you want.

2) Play continuously until you reach it and buy all the health packs you need to keep going.

Both of the methods require spending HP which implies that at some point you will have to buy it in order to keep going. If you're not willing to become P2W then 1300 is not for you, at least not constantly.

And as everyone already mentioned, there is a big nerf coming to shield hopping. In other words, it will not exist anymore after R67 patch. So that 1300 progression might become impossible for everyone. However, they did say that they will collect data and make changes to progression rewards accordingly if needed.

kensterr

there are other combos beside sentry/hood or xf/daken. Yes, you need to spend HP on shields, but that alone isn't enough. Boosting for every match past certain points do help a lot.

Unknown

Some good advice, but not full tactics here. You dont have a fully developed 3* roster, but you have some good characters, so I say it is possible to hit 1300 for you.

Disclaimer: the below tactic will not work after shield changes go live.

In my opinion you have a couple of options (prepare to spend lots of ISO on skips):

First of all, check the threads about finding out which time slice the most players are choosing (this will have more opponents and more points).

Pair LThor with Hood (both maxed) and climb with them. Try to hit at least 800-900 points without shielding. If it is still early in the PVP, i.e. you have time, then do the pushes at 200-300 points at a time, resting for 2-3 hours inbetween, if you have a good levelled LCap, you can use him with Hood until he gets low on health and continue with LT+Hood, this will save you some health packs, but LCap is very slow, so do not use him above 800 points. You should only hit targets that have more (much more if possible) points than you, aim for 30+ matches. This will also reduce the chance of retaliations (you will only be worth ~20 points for them, so even if they do retal, your net gain is still positive).

This will roll out the retaliations, and regenerate your health packs. Now check your retaliators. If you stuck with 30+ targets, chances are that you will find 30+ points within your retaliations, skip anyone else.

Rinse and repeat until you reach 800 (900 is better). This is where you need to change tactics a bit. You will have to shield hop: skip matches until you find 30+ (preferrably 40+) targets. Break your shield and use boosts (if you have LOTS of HP to burn, use +1 all, and and iso +ap boosts). Speed is everything, you need to win at least 2 matches (60-80 points) and immidiately reshield. Wait 1 hour for attacks to ping off your shield.

Rinse and repeat.

Above 900 points it helps if you have a lvl200+ 553 Wolvie (his skills are much cheaper than LT), so your 2-3 matches are faster to fit in during the hops. LT is much slower even with boosts, but is is doable even with him +Hood (dont do more than 2 matches per hop with LT+Hood)

If you use XF:
- If you face enemy Hood: you should use your Hood first and target his down
- If there is no Hood: you should pair a strong red/blue user, but prioritize red (CMags, 4hor, newDareDevil, if you have no usable from these, LT also works)

Hope this helps.

Unknown

So now the she-hulk pvp I only have 4 cover of her only.
So do I still have the chance to reach around 700+ point as she is only at L40 now
Do I need to lvl / buy more cover in order to work up to 700+
I have the hp to burns now. After all 2 cover for 2500 hp is still cheaper then just buying then right
I can buy some ISO if really there is a need to do so.
I will wish to b a P2W player. Just to collect all the top rewards in pvp
What I need now is just to buy a XF right. I will hitting around 1000+

Polares

Phantron wrote:

Hitting 1300 is a very mathematical thing. Once you have a firm grasp of how many games you can win between shield hops, assuming you can find people worth at least 30 points per game, and assuming you can hit 900 before you need to shield, it's simply 400 / (30*number of games you can win) number of hops. You want to put at least an hour or so between the shield hops if possible because otherwise you could get hit by the guys who retaliated against your attacks. With enough HP it should be quite possible to hit 1300 even with a relatively weak roster though there is a point where it's likely not worth the risk if your roster is unbelievably weak. Also make sure you check on the overall alliance leader board. If you're sitting at 900 and the top alliance scores are at 1000, this probably isn't a good time to start your shield hops.

And how do you get to 900 without being hit? Do you have to get to 900 the day before? When do you start the event, the first day? the second?

I have a very deep/good roster (XForce 222lvl 5/5/3, all good 3* maxed, etc) but I still don't have a full Fury or 4* Thor, so I would like to max them before shields go away. But I have never got that high, I usually get to 900 or 1000 and I stop there (for top25 is a good enough score). I have a maxed Sentry but I didn't use him that much in the past because I don't like to Sentry Bomb, I find it very boring, but I use XForce regularly (usually teamed with Daken or The Hood).

Unknown

Chrono_Tata wrote:

Just want to chime in as well that I have a level 180-something X-Force at 5/2/4 and a Hood at 5/5/3, and I can use these two to shield hop to 1300 with a bit of effort (actually I just won blue Thoria with them and took #1 in my bracket). Even without max black on X-Force, you can use max green to wipe out everything. And a level 180 X-Force will easily take down a level 270 one if you can activate your green first, which is not difficult if you go in the match with green AP boost.

However if your X-Force neither have black or green maxed, you might have a bad time.

http://imgur.com/PeHWx11
http://imgur.com/APQvO3b

So I need to max my XF green first as now the pvp have a black XF at 1300.
I need to max only hood & Lcap only? How about she-hulk he is in L40 now with only 4 cover

Unknown

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

1300 is simply a matter of strong characters and an HP budget for shields. Climb until you meet resistance, protect your points. Line up high opponents, shield hop, repeat to 1300.

When I reach 500+ point I have hit into the 166 zone. Which I have skip tone of then they all is 166 or XF that I cannot fight at all. Only 20+ they all are above my lvl that char I have

JamieMadrox

XForce and Hood should both be 553 if possible and levels 200-221 and 166 respectively. You want your LThor to be 355. Deadpool, CMags, and Hulk are all useful too, but you need more covers for them and that will come.

That said, Hitting 1300 involves lots of shield hopping and luck. You can do it with the characters you have. Use XForce+Thor (sexgod) for the climb and then you may use XForce+Hood for shield hop matches. Boosts are going to be necessary for the climb with sexgod (+3 Red/Yellow & +3 Black/Green) and then you'll want to add +2 All Colour boosts during shield hops. You'll only need the Black/Green and All Colour boosts when using Hood instead of LThor.

I hit over 1300 in the First Avenger PVP using this strategy with CMags instead of LThor, but it should still be possible as LThor is strong with XForce. Use LThor Yellow to fuel his green or use XForce green if you have just one enemy left and/or you want to shake up the board. XForce Black is awesome too, but can easily become useless if you remove all of their strongest AP from the board so be mindful of that before you use it.

Unknown

Jamie Madrox wrote:

XForce and Hood should both be 553 if possible and levels 200-221 and 166 respectively. You want your LThor to be 355. Deadpool, CMags, and Hulk are all useful too, but you need more covers for them and that will come.

That said, Hitting 1300 involves lots of shield hopping and luck. You can do it with the characters you have. Use XForce+Thor (sexgod) for the climb and then you may use XForce+Hood for shield hop matches. Boosts are going to be necessary for the climb with sexgod (+3 Red/Yellow & +3 Black/Green) and then you'll want to add +2 All Colour boosts during shield hops. You'll only need the Black/Green and All Colour boosts when using Hood instead of LThor.

I hit over 1300 in the First Avenger PVP using this strategy with CMags instead of LThor, but it should still be possible as LThor is strong with XForce. Use LThor Yellow to fuel his green or use XForce green if you have just one enemy left and/or you want to shake up the board. XForce Black is awesome too, but can easily become useless if you remove all of their strongest AP from the board so be mindful of that before you use it.

On this coming pvp do I need to have a she-hulk 166 or just a L40 with 4 cover can also get into 1300 as long as I follow your way to hit them.

When to join the event is the best? As early as they are open or on the last day/last 12hrs

JamieMadrox

Angela90 wrote:

Jamie Madrox wrote:

XForce and Hood should both be 553 if possible and levels 200-221 and 166 respectively. You want your LThor to be 355. Deadpool, CMags, and Hulk are all useful too, but you need more covers for them and that will come.

That said, Hitting 1300 involves lots of shield hopping and luck. You can do it with the characters you have. Use XForce+Thor (sexgod) for the climb and then you may use XForce+Hood for shield hop matches. Boosts are going to be necessary for the climb with sexgod (+3 Red/Yellow & +3 Black/Green) and then you'll want to add +2 All Colour boosts during shield hops. You'll only need the Black/Green and All Colour boosts when using Hood instead of LThor.

I hit over 1300 in the First Avenger PVP using this strategy with CMags instead of LThor, but it should still be possible as LThor is strong with XForce. Use LThor Yellow to fuel his green or use XForce green if you have just one enemy left and/or you want to shake up the board. XForce Black is awesome too, but can easily become useless if you remove all of their strongest AP from the board so be mindful of that before you use it.

On this coming pvp do I need to have a she-hulk 166 or just a L40 with 4 cover can also get into 1300 as long as I follow your way to hit them.

When to join the event is the best? As early as they are open or on the last day/last 12hrs

Having the featured character is generally not required. I often use the loaner during my climb and even sometimes during hops. The best time to join is as soon as possible. This allows sharding to work correctly and helps you avoid death brackets. You don't need to start right away though. I generally give it at least 12 hours before I start so that I have good targets to climb off of. If you're in a high scoring time slice (5 is generally where the whales are) you can do a run to 1300 with minimal shields in the last 12 hours or less of the event. The trade off there is that 1300 will likely not get you top 10 or even close in a slice 5 bracket.

Unknown

Jamie Madrox wrote:

Angela90 wrote:

Jamie Madrox wrote:

XForce and Hood should both be 553 if possible and levels 200-221 and 166 respectively. You want your LThor to be 355. Deadpool, CMags, and Hulk are all useful too, but you need more covers for them and that will come.

That said, Hitting 1300 involves lots of shield hopping and luck. You can do it with the characters you have. Use XForce+Thor (sexgod) for the climb and then you may use XForce+Hood for shield hop matches. Boosts are going to be necessary for the climb with sexgod (+3 Red/Yellow & +3 Black/Green) and then you'll want to add +2 All Colour boosts during shield hops. You'll only need the Black/Green and All Colour boosts when using Hood instead of LThor.

I hit over 1300 in the First Avenger PVP using this strategy with CMags instead of LThor, but it should still be possible as LThor is strong with XForce. Use LThor Yellow to fuel his green or use XForce green if you have just one enemy left and/or you want to shake up the board. XForce Black is awesome too, but can easily become useless if you remove all of their strongest AP from the board so be mindful of that before you use it.

On this coming pvp do I need to have a she-hulk 166 or just a L40 with 4 cover can also get into 1300 as long as I follow your way to hit them.

When to join the event is the best? As early as they are open or on the last day/last 12hrs

Having the featured character is generally not required. I often use the loaner during my climb and even sometimes during hops. The best time to join is as soon as possible. This allows sharding to work correctly and helps you avoid death brackets. You don't need to start right away though. I generally give it at least 12 hours before I start so that I have good targets to climb off of. If you're in a high scoring time slice (5 is generally where the whales are) you can do a run to 1300 with minimal shields in the last 12 hours or less of the event. The trade off there is that 1300 will likely not get you top 10 or even close in a slice 5 bracket.

Join ASAP when the event start right? Start to play only on the last 12hrs before the event end? If I'm in a death brackets is that it will b very hard to reach 1300 point
In a good bracket with a 1300 point where I will land?

JamieMadrox

Angela90 wrote:

Jamie Madrox wrote:

Angela90 wrote:

Jamie Madrox wrote:

XForce and Hood should both be 553 if possible and levels 200-221 and 166 respectively. You want your LThor to be 355. Deadpool, CMags, and Hulk are all useful too, but you need more covers for them and that will come.

That said, Hitting 1300 involves lots of shield hopping and luck. You can do it with the characters you have. Use XForce+Thor (sexgod) for the climb and then you may use XForce+Hood for shield hop matches. Boosts are going to be necessary for the climb with sexgod (+3 Red/Yellow & +3 Black/Green) and then you'll want to add +2 All Colour boosts during shield hops. You'll only need the Black/Green and All Colour boosts when using Hood instead of LThor.

I hit over 1300 in the First Avenger PVP using this strategy with CMags instead of LThor, but it should still be possible as LThor is strong with XForce. Use LThor Yellow to fuel his green or use XForce green if you have just one enemy left and/or you want to shake up the board. XForce Black is awesome too, but can easily become useless if you remove all of their strongest AP from the board so be mindful of that before you use it.

On this coming pvp do I need to have a she-hulk 166 or just a L40 with 4 cover can also get into 1300 as long as I follow your way to hit them.

When to join the event is the best? As early as they are open or on the last day/last 12hrs

Having the featured character is generally not required. I often use the loaner during my climb and even sometimes during hops. The best time to join is as soon as possible. This allows sharding to work correctly and helps you avoid death brackets. You don't need to start right away though. I generally give it at least 12 hours before I start so that I have good targets to climb off of. If you're in a high scoring time slice (5 is generally where the whales are) you can do a run to 1300 with minimal shields in the last 12 hours or less of the event. The trade off there is that 1300 will likely not get you top 10 or even close in a slice 5 bracket.

Join ASAP when the event start right? Start to play only on the last 12hrs before the event end? If I'm in a death brackets is that it will b very hard to reach 1300 point
In a good bracket with a 1300 point where I will land?

It's hard to say. Placing well in death brackets is nearly impossible for most players that don't spend 1000-2000 HP per event. That said, the later you joint he more high value target there are so you can skip until you get good points and then climb quickly that way. In slice 5 you can make regular 40 point matches all the way to 1300+ and still not place well. Other brackets may be more difficult or impossible to hit 1300 without coordination with others.

Unknown

Join ASAP when the event start right? Start to play only on the last 12hrs before the event end? If I'm in a death brackets is that it will b very hard to reach 1300 point
In a good bracket with a 1300 point where I will land?[/quote]
It's hard to say. Placing well in death brackets is nearly impossible for most players that don't spend 1000-2000 HP per event. That said, the later you joint he more high value target there are so you can skip until you get good points and then climb quickly that way. In slice 5 you can make regular 40 point matches all the way to 1300+ and still not place well. Other brackets may be more difficult or impossible to hit 1300 without coordination with others.[/quote]

How to coordination with other/ how it work?
Is there really a need to do that?

Chrono_Tata

Angela90 wrote:

So I need to max my XF green first as now the pvp have a black XF at 1300.
I need to max only hood & Lcap only? How about she-hulk he is in L40 now with only 4 cover

Having a decently levelled required character is helpful, but not necessary. They are useful for absorbing damage for your "main" characters. If you could get her level high enough to tank some colours instead of X-Force or Hood it would help.

GrumpySmurf1002

Angela90 wrote:

GrumpySmurf1002 wrote:

1300 is simply a matter of strong characters and an HP budget for shields. Climb until you meet resistance, protect your points. Line up high opponents, shield hop, repeat to 1300.

When I reach 500+ point I have hit into the 166 zone. Which I have skip tone of then they all is 166 or XF that I cannot fight at all. Only 20+ they all are above my lvl that char I have

2* players have a wall. If you have a max Thor, there is no wall.

166s and XForce are not scary. Your own XForce and LThor are plenty to get through them. You have to try though. The worst that happens is you lose and your MMR gets a little bump in a better direction.