Is my MMR too high? How to tank? Lightning round frustration

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So I've been trying my luck in the lightning rounds with my best team, which isn't even that great.
Maxed 1 Star Black Widow and 61 Wolverine, paired with the respective lightning round character.

So what I see happening:
I get to around 150 points
Then when I exit a fight I see that I lost to someone and get substracted 20-30+ points.
While all the fights I can pick only give me 15-20 points, also against teams that have much stronger characters that I have (a maxed Ragnarok with 10k HP, yeah right... I'm sure gonna try to fight him for a meager 17 points).

So I assume my MMR is way too high or I've gotten into a horrible bracket?
Is there anything I can do to change this?

It's VERY frustrating since I keep playing constantly and as fast as I can, but for the past ten minutes I have gone down in rank regardless, since I always get defeated a lot. I was able to get to rank 300 once and since then have dropped back to rank 1000, even though I have been fighting constantly... again... it's very frustrating

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Part of it is your team is going to be a good target. Lightning Rounds are a measure of progression, and you haven't advanced far enough to be very competitive. So, people are going to attack you whenever you pop up on their radar, because you're pretty easy points. Lowering your MMR may help with that. Your other problem is that with that team, you just won't be getting through rounds super fast (Least not without burning tons of boosts), meaning you are going to be outpaced by others playing the lightning rounds.

I'd recommend getting to the 100 point rewards, and not stressing more about the Lightning Rounds until your roster is a bit stronger.

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Sounds like I'm too ambitious and competitive for my own good then.

It's pretty tough to progress in this game without getting the higher level rewards though, or am I thinking wrong here?
Or maybe it's just the PVP events, since I can do quite fine in the PVE ones, since they just seem to take a little time.

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whorst wrote:

Sounds like I'm too ambitious and competitive for my own good then.

It's pretty tough to progress in this game without getting the higher level rewards though, or am I thinking wrong here?
Or maybe it's just the PVP events, since I can do quite fine in the PVE ones, since they just seem to take a little time.

Getting through the Prologue and building your roster can be a bit of a slog. You'll eventually reach the point where you are transitioning to an all 2-* team though, and leveling them up, and then to a 3-* team eventually. Having a decent 2* steam is really where you'll start to compete. It can be done before then, but it takes a lot of effort, and will sap your ISO as you use boosts to try and push your progress. Shoot for the 2* rewards in tournaments, not the top tier, and just keep leveling people! And feel free to keep testing yourself against the lightning rounds, just don't stress if you aren't doing well. The lightning rounds are hands down THE most competative event in the game.

As to your MMR, tanking may help, but probably not enough for the lightning rounds. Smart play, 'choose' your bracket in PVP events (is partly luck, but based on the event end time, you can usually get a bracket thats less competitive if you try), and tanking might allow you to advance your progression faster.

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I've been playing for over 2 months.

I'm only beginning to think I can regularly place top-50 in the Lightning Rounds.

I've done so 3 times so far, but burning through a ton of boosts using a team of 89 Magneto, 41 Ragnarok, and xxx.

My maxed ** teams will never cut it.

This is how competitive these rounds are.

This week I'm running 102 Magneto, 77 Ragnarok, and xxx.

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ghostlightning wrote:

I've been playing for over 2 months.

I'm only beginning to think I can regularly place top-50 in the Lightning Rounds.

I've done so 3 times so far, but burning through a ton of boosts using a team of 89 Magneto, 41 Ragnarok, and xxx.

My maxed ** teams will never cut it.

This is how competitive these rounds are.

This week I'm running 102 Magneto, 77 Ragnarok, and xxx.

Not true. There have been forumites who have reported LR placements with 2* covers. But it is rough, and rather rare. but more commonly, you'll advance to where you can start getting the diabolic tokens to build your villian roster.

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Kyosokun wrote:

ghostlightning wrote:

I've been playing for over 2 months.

I'm only beginning to think I can regularly place top-50 in the Lightning Rounds.

I've done so 3 times so far, but burning through a ton of boosts using a team of 89 Magneto, 41 Ragnarok, and xxx.

My maxed ** teams will never cut it.

This is how competitive these rounds are.

This week I'm running 102 Magneto, 77 Ragnarok, and xxx.

Not true. There have been forumites who have reported LR placements with 2* covers. But it is rough, and rather rare. but more commonly, you'll advance to where you can start getting the diabolic tokens to build your villian roster.

Late nov early Dec I could place with just thor/free villain/x ...not sure how true that is today. Especially with every round possibly being good round scoring.

You can also try m.storm/thor/villain on the jungle to easy wins..but you will get mashed in retaliations probably.

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Honestly, with that team you're not going to place well in Lightning Rounds. That team is fodder for the teams without villains, much less those with some.

As stated, get through prologue and start building a 2* team.

The high level villain teams are probably people who have severely tanked their ratings -- just skip them. If you're seeing mostly teams that have high level 2*s then your MMR is probably too high. But if most of the teams you are seeing are viable, then you're fine.

I think tanking is going to go way down with Shields now, but we'll see.

Note that about a month ago I saw someone place top 8 w/ a L50 IM35 and L40 Jugg in a Rags round. I still don't know how they did it. Probably burning ISO and health packs fast enough to ignite a star.

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I find that Magneto and Ragnarok rounds are incredibly competitive. This is why I don't get high finishes. The other rounds I use to tank, since I need my health packs for the rounds I mentioned.

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Kyosokun wrote:

Not true. There have been forumites who have reported LR placements with 2* covers. But it is rough, and rather rare. but more commonly, you'll advance to where you can start getting the diabolic tokens to build your villian roster.

I did, back in November (broke into top 8 to get a red Ragnarok). No idea if you could still pull that off or not. Tanking your mmr first is a requirement for a 2* team, though, and the points get scarce, so you have to play more matches (I.e. start sooner)

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Thanks for the replies. Seems the game is way more grindy than I initially thought.
So back to grinding and hoping that I get some lucky cover draws I guess
Also hope there are a few more PVE events soon then

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It is sometimes best to not retaliate because you will end up in a back and forth slugfest until someone gives up netting you on average 0 rank points....that's what my experience has been anyways.

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I'm tanking for the first time on this doom event. I don't compete in the mags or rags events because it's rather pointless with my OBW, Wolvie, and Thor maxed out. I do the hood and Loki because I have better chance and it's a morale booster. Know your limitations, and enjoy yourself within your means.

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I never even bothered with lightning rounds until I got 5 Red cover Rags recently. Really tried for the first time early this morning and got #9 with Lvl 63 Rags 40 Classic Storm and 27 Magneto. With that team all I need is a few Red to get my Thunderclap/Lightning Storm AP building combo going and it's over pretty quickly. You definitely need a fast team that does damage in Lightning rounds. There is no place for stun lock lol

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I've placed top 8 easily with a 50 Doom/ 28 Rag / 85 Wolvie/Thor depending on which LR you do.....so you don't have to have a MONSTER team in order to place well. Just have a to get through matches quickly and hope you don't get attacked.

My advice is try to level up a 3* villain and then play that character's lightning round so you can pair them with 2 other of your main characters.

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I run a maxed Rag, 130 Spidey plus whichever featured villains, and I struggle to break 250 points after playing for 1.5 hr straight. All my opponents have high level Rags as well and we normally just end up attacking each other. If you ignore them, they will attacked you repeatedly, frustrating really.

I must try this tanking tactic sometime...

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Kyosokun wrote:

Not true. There have been forumites who have reported LR placements with 2* covers. But it is rough, and rather rare. but more commonly, you'll advance to where you can start getting the diabolic tokens to build your villian roster.

I managed placement in the top 25 this morning with my lvl 79 wolfie, 61OBW and the supplied loki...unfortunately I overshot as I was aiming for a diabolical cover...now I'm stuck with some silly loki Might be that the round was less combatitive because it was loki, though, and I did tank delibarately for two LR yesterday night, so my bracket probably was easier than usual.

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thunderheadx wrote:

I run a maxed Rag, 130 Spidey plus whichever featured villains, and I struggle to break 250 points after playing for 1.5 hr straight. All my opponents have high level Rags as well and we normally just end up attacking each other. If you ignore them, they will attacked you repeatedly, frustrating really.

I must try this tanking tactic sometime...

A maxed rag not able to get to 250 when playing from the very start of the round? You must be doing something wrong

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Spoit wrote:

thunderheadx wrote:

I run a maxed Rag, 130 Spidey plus whichever featured villains, and I struggle to break 250 points after playing for 1.5 hr straight. All my opponents have high level Rags as well and we normally just end up attacking each other. If you ignore them, they will attacked you repeatedly, frustrating really.

I must try this tanking tactic sometime...

A maxed rag not able to get to 250 when playing from the very start of the round? You must be doing something wrong

Spidey means nothing if there isn't a mag and a rag in front of him. Only thing that gives me pause is 3 100+ villains...MAYBE mag/rag/spidey of I don't wanna deal with it and the points aren't high enough to bother. If I see 9 digits I skip.

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As someone who is having very little luck in the lightning rounds, I'd say that it's very difficult at best to get top 100 with only 2*s. I consistently run 85 Wolvie and 85 Thor with the villain du jour. However, I now have 3 Hood covers and 3 Doom covers and I will gladly swap in my level 28 Doom for either of the 85's (usually dump Wolvie if I see a Rag, or Thor for anyone else). With this team, I have to fight for a top 100 slot (highest was like a 57 - so close). I do have a 93 BWGS that I'm tempted to use each round but she's so squishy that it makes me more of a target, I feel. And my lvl 63 IM40 just doesn't have the firepower to net me a quick win. So I stick with my 2*'s and boosted villains.

I'd say go track down the Thor covers in the Prologue and start building him up. Most people agree that Thor and Wolverine are the staple 2*'s that will help propel you into the 3* arena.

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Having Hood at lvl28-30 I was able to get to his 2covers reward in the Lightning Round. I use Logan** all the time, and depending on the enemy team - BW* or BW**. Without any tanking beforehand.

It's just luck I guess.