Rubber Banding Has Got to Go (or be changed)

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There's nothing more enraging than spending all week top 300 only to be rubber banded out of the top 1500 of the Hulk event just because I was actually playing the event regularly throughout the week. Don't punish people for actually playing the game.

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I played all week and finished in the top 10. Rubberbanding is not to blame for you being bumped out of the top 300. It just means you didn't take advantage of it.

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You shouldn't have to learn to play the rewards system, you should be rewarded for actually taking your time to play their game, not just whoever plays it at the right time.

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definetly rubberbanding isn't helping as much as initially, in fact, this version seems the best. rubberbanding is capped, i play regularly and only managed a top 5k finish even with abusing rubber banding alittle.

not sure what happened to you tho, when there's 12 hours left, almost everyone's on equal footing.

Spoit

I...uh...might have rubberbanded to...I think #4. Only did a full 3 of depletions for the first and last round. The last few days, I was really only doing the 100 and 200 base point ones

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I actually finished the second to last event at around 334 or so. I waited a little while to do the final events, and held off doing the very last one until about an hour or so left to play (wanted to put it off as long as I could in case of ties). I ended up at 234 with about 9 minutes to play and wound up in the top 300.

I agree with forgrim, I'm not sure what ended up happening to you as it seems that the standings at the end of the second to the last round pretty much didn't change (didn't appear to anyway). The first go-around I tried to get into the top 300 but ended up getting pushed out. I also ended up about 170 points or so short of the Punisher. This time around I pushed hard for Punisher and would have been satisfied with just top 1500.

I really didn't game the event much except for keeping my eyes peeled for replenished points in the subevents.

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No it means he played first I understand rubber banding just fine. I understand that playing first is the way to watch your score creep past you I never tapped out any of the hulk lvls this time and I busted my **** on the first leg first leg 1400ish this time I got top 500 I played lazy and late this time all the 2 day events I play only the last two hours and score top 20 every time. So just be lazy barely play and don't worry about it and you will place better every time

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If you deplete the last set of missions (or whatever you can finish) your overall placement is likely unchanged unless you happened to do your missions right before the overall score leader did.

You cannot sit on a lead in this system, but if you simply played hard in the last available sub bracket(s), you'd hold your position fine. In most cases, you'd gain considerably. I range from 100 to 1000 while playing throughout the tournament. I did all the missions on the final sub bracket that I was able to, and finished around 150 or so place, which roughly corresponds to where I placed when I was playing more seriously. Rubberbanding basically forgives your laziness until the final sub-bracket. However, note that your laziness is NOT forgiven if the guy you're trying to pass up played at least as much as you did. You will never pass up someone who started out ahead of you and put in at least as much effort as you did on the final sub bracket, assuming the overall leader's score did not change. So for me to finish around 150th means I still played harder than all but around 150 guys in the final set of missions.

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I didn't like the system myself. I slept too long this morning and lost top 300. Also my work schedule is odd and at odds with the system.

Besides it still punishes grinders, which I find counter intuitive to a game. Play less, get same rewards at less cost? (Cost = time / boosts spent)

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In no way should placement require all this explanation. Frankly, the people who play more should have a better shot at rewards, laziness should in no way be a positive. My bad for actually playing, I guess.

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I'd be curious to know who only played late or 1 set of events and still placed high. I got about 80th place like last time. I did not do 3 rounds of grinding to zero but did do 2 rounds on most of the sub events but did not grind all to zero but usually close to it. I think the best indicator is where you end up at the end of each sub event especially on the ladt 2 days. I think the system was pretty good as I felt I played quite a bit but was never able to jump guys who grinded thru 3 sets every time. Bc people play at different times rubber banding may give the illusion that you were top 100 bc you we there at some point in time ( I was top 10 maybe for a heartbeat). But if someone here tells me they barely played and only grinded last bracket and got top 300, then yeah the system would need some tweaking.

Nemek

buckfanana wrote:

In no way should placement require all this explanation. Frankly, the people who play more should have a better shot at rewards, laziness should in no way be a positive. My bad for actually playing, I guess.

People who played more had an advantage - that's undeniable. If you lost ground, you would lose ground to somebody who played more during that sub-event.

Yes, the points are back-loaded, so you need to play a lot in the later stages (and even at the end of sub-events.)

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It's not an attempt to reward laziness (although it seems to do that). It's an attempt to make casual players able to compete...IMO it's an over-compensation.

Nemek

EvilSonGoku wrote:

I'd be curious to know who only played late or 1 set of events and still placed high. I got about 80th place like last time. I did not do 3 rounds of grinding to zero but did do 2 rounds on most of the sub events but did not grind all to zero but usually close to it. I think the best indicator is where you end up at the end of each sub event especially on the ladt 2 days. I think the system was pretty good as I felt I played quite a bit but was never able to jump guys who grinded thru 3 sets every time. Bc people play at different times rubber banding may give the illusion that you were top 100 bc you we there at some point in time ( I was top 10 maybe for a heartbeat). But if someone here tells me they barely played and only grinded last bracket and got top 300, then yeah the system would need some tweaking.

The last sub-event actually had a lot fewer points than the others (no 2000 point mission with 10x multiplier.) you'd probably have to do the last two sub-events reallllly hard to catch up with rubber banding.

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it was a happy medium that was achieved after the first event where pure grindathon killed several ppl irl (not rly, but certainly souls were lost)

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I played lazy. Didn't finish any rounds to zero only played a few times a day for the last 3 days just enough to keep my points up it was a total joke compared to my first hulk run not only did I make 60k+ points I landed solid top 1500 got all 3 covers and punisher red last time I missed punisher but got 3 covers lazy players stand just as good a chance as grinders. I've tested it over the widow no hold no mans land avenger 1-2 and the lightning rounds other than rags that ones crazy

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Since rubberbanding is capped at 10X, you're obviously not getting 60K or so points needed to place anywhere near the top in one set of missions.

I don't get all the complaints about how it lets people come back. Do you just take a break on the last sub bracket after grinding hard throughout the tournament? Isn't that counterintuitive to how to place well regardless of the underlying system? The system doesn't punish grinders, unless the grinder for some reason decide to take a break on the final stretch of the tournament. If he simply grinded every available mission, he is almost assured to hold his position as long as a new score leader did not emerge. Now, if you're the overall score leader, you're not guaranteed to hold your position, but it's not like you're going to fall out of top 300 and most likely not even top 30.

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With just about any game, there is an optimal way of playing it to get the best results. It's not always about playing harder, but playing smarter as well. With that being said, I can definitely understand how someone can be disappointed with the rubber banding. In my recent memory, only Mario Kart 64 had worse rubber banding (darn you, blue shells!). I'm at a loss for ideas on how to replace the current system, however.

*For disclosure, I just made it to the top 10K, almost making it to 40K points. I don't have as much of a horse in this race as I do for PVP events.*

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Necrofessor wrote:

I played lazy. Didn't finish any rounds to zero only played a few times a day for the last 3 days just enough to keep my points up it was a total joke compared to my first hulk run not only did I make 60k+ points I landed solid top 1500 got all 3 covers and punisher red last time I missed punisher but got 3 covers lazy players stand just as good a chance as grinders. I've tested it over the widow no hold no mans land avenger 1-2 and the lightning rounds other than rags that ones crazy

You may think you're lazy, but you're probably still less lazy than all but around 1500 people. I thought I was pretty lazy this tournament and I finished around 150th overall, but then I remembered that I usually placed between 100-300 when I'm actually playing unless I'm trying to tank my score for certain sub-brackets. It's not like I was 30000th place most of the tournament and magically got up to 150th at the end.

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Phantron wrote:

Since rubberbanding is capped at 10X, you're obviously not getting 60K or so points needed to place anywhere near the top in one set of missions.

I don't get all the complaints about how it lets people come back. Do you just take a break on the last sub bracket after grinding hard throughout the tournament? Isn't that counterintuitive to how to place well regardless of the underlying system? The system doesn't punish grinders, unless the grinder for some reason decide to take a break on the final stretch of the tournament. If he simply grinded every available mission, he is almost assured to hold his position as long as a new score leader did not emerge. Now, if you're the overall score leader, you're not guaranteed to hold your position, but it's not like you're going to fall out of top 300 and most likely not even top 30.

You seriously need a fancy account like IceIX and the other Devs with a colored name. If you all aren't reading this man's posts you need to start asap.

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The last day or so of missons the hardest ones, even if I waited for them to "Rubber band" a bit, were only worth about 150 points max, I couldn't even crack the top 800 in either of the events and I ground them down to no points available. This just doesn't seem right to make people like me, who just honestly play all event, suffer because it's more efficient to let other people work while you rubber band your way to the top.