Raekwen wrote: If you're asking top end players who don't need the covers to not play so others can have them, that will never happen. Between Alliance rankings, Season rankings, and the fact that scoring well is why we even play this game, you won't see people sitting out events. That being said, I've let others get #1 ahead of me because they needed the 4* cover and I didn't.
benben77 wrote: Raekwen wrote: If you're asking top end players who don't need the covers to not play so others can have them, that will never happen. Between Alliance rankings, Season rankings, and the fact that scoring well is why we even play this game, you won't see people sitting out events. That being said, I've let others get #1 ahead of me because they needed the 4* cover and I didn't. they are not fight for rewards but glory. #1!
atomzed wrote: benben77 wrote: 1 I want to know which top 100 alliance accept new member. give me names and i will serach them out. I m a daily player 2 2* is same as 1* at past because eveybody is 166 i m stuck in 94 roster with 4 black parter , 3 grey black widow , 2 thor , 4 dead pool , 7 captain america ( server bug give me extra 3 cap cover) 2 sentry, 2 she hulk 2 hulk 1 I40 1 ....and get beat out from top 100 to get any 3* ( dont forget top 100 ony give you 1 weakest power) how to progess ? i know you get all 166 lv and speak loud becuase you are fighting top 50 .... 3 The problem is too MANY 3 * cover ! How can you get 10 for a 3* to fucntion well? by luck? 4 The game is not totally broken but is much more boken than enjoyable I admin 2* team is fun, Daken + Ares , Storm + Magneto ( now) , Thor + BWO , bulleye + whoever but not enough to stand with full 166 roster Ben, what is your expectation of the game? If you want to be able to get a max 3*, within 2 months, without spending a single cent... then this game is not for you. Imho, this game is meant to be a marathon. Actually more than a marathon, since there's no end in sight. Yo I take the tokens as it is, continue as best as your 2* roster can take you, and enjoy the game. I have friends who can get into top 50 to 100 (individual ranking) with the right timing and right shielding, with only 2* roster. It's tough and there's a lot of meta knowledge involved. But it's doable. If you can't get into top 100, then settle for some thing less. Earn the hp, and saved it for cover upgrades. Like phantron suggested, it's a slow and steady progress. Expect a few months worth of effort. But as I said in the first para, if you don't find this long journey enjoyable, you may want to put it down and be a casual casual player.
benben77 wrote: 1 I want to know which top 100 alliance accept new member. give me names and i will serach them out. I m a daily player 2 2* is same as 1* at past because eveybody is 166 i m stuck in 94 roster with 4 black parter , 3 grey black widow , 2 thor , 4 dead pool , 7 captain america ( server bug give me extra 3 cap cover) 2 sentry, 2 she hulk 2 hulk 1 I40 1 ....and get beat out from top 100 to get any 3* ( dont forget top 100 ony give you 1 weakest power) how to progess ? i know you get all 166 lv and speak loud becuase you are fighting top 50 .... 3 The problem is too MANY 3 * cover ! How can you get 10 for a 3* to fucntion well? by luck? 4 The game is not totally broken but is much more boken than enjoyable I admin 2* team is fun, Daken + Ares , Storm + Magneto ( now) , Thor + BWO , bulleye + whoever but not enough to stand with full 166 roster
Paintsville wrote: benben77 wrote: Raekwen wrote: If you're asking top end players who don't need the covers to not play so others can have them, that will never happen. Between Alliance rankings, Season rankings, and the fact that scoring well is why we even play this game, you won't see people sitting out events. That being said, I've let others get #1 ahead of me because they needed the 4* cover and I didn't. they are not fight for rewards but glory. #1! As long as characters like 4* Thor are given away as a Season alliance reward, I can't see anyone who has even the smallest chance of Top 100 screwing over their alliance just so someone else can have a 3*. Sucks to say, but it is the truth.
Raekwen wrote: So your suggestion is to not play a game we enjoy so it won't be boring? Something seems a little off here.. If you think that playing a game you enjoy, have invested a lot of time and in some cases money in, to the best of your ability means you're selfish and glorified then I don't know what to tell you.
benben77 wrote: I think the game is very interesting before i max out 2 star characters. Interesting is that all 2* roster is useable even only 2, 3 cover. They still function well with those maxed 1* cover. Usable in progess ! Evey card keep recovery! I have planned what can i achieve. Get the normal token in PVP and hope to rush to get hero one ( 300 point) . Top 100 is not my target at that time. PVE is another story. However when i start to max out my 2* cover i found my 3* roster is useless without numbers of covers! There are no control on how to get such cover! No matter PVE or PVP only the first team ( buffed team in PVE) is busy! the other roster is sit there and wasted! What i do is wait for the first team to recovery and nothing the second team can do.
das boot wrote: Raekwen wrote: So your suggestion is to not play a game we enjoy so it won't be boring? Something seems a little off here.. If you think that playing a game you enjoy, have invested a lot of time and in some cases money in, to the best of your ability means you're selfish and glorified then I don't know what to tell you. My suggestion is to not play events where you don't need the rewards, so that other players who do need the rewards have a better chance of actually getting them. Additionally, playing an event that you don't need rewards, simply so you can be first is playing for glory, which is selfish. I am also saying that playing an event that I know I can win is boring, especially if there are no worth while rewards for me to obtain.
Raekwen wrote: das boot wrote: Raekwen wrote: So your suggestion is to not play a game we enjoy so it won't be boring? Something seems a little off here.. If you think that playing a game you enjoy, have invested a lot of time and in some cases money in, to the best of your ability means you're selfish and glorified then I don't know what to tell you. My suggestion is to not play events where you don't need the rewards, so that other players who do need the rewards have a better chance of actually getting them. Additionally, playing an event that you don't need rewards, simply so you can be first is playing for glory, which is selfish. I am also saying that playing an event that I know I can win is boring, especially if there are no worth while rewards for me to obtain. Do you not get the concept of alliance and season rankings? There is a bigger picture here.
atomzed wrote: benben77 wrote: I think the game is very interesting before i max out 2 star characters. Interesting is that all 2* roster is useable even only 2, 3 cover. They still function well with those maxed 1* cover. Usable in progess ! Evey card keep recovery! I have planned what can i achieve. Get the normal token in PVP and hope to rush to get hero one ( 300 point) . Top 100 is not my target at that time. PVE is another story. However when i start to max out my 2* cover i found my 3* roster is useless without numbers of covers! There are no control on how to get such cover! No matter PVE or PVP only the first team ( buffed team in PVE) is busy! the other roster is sit there and wasted! What i do is wait for the first team to recovery and nothing the second team can do. You just described the transition between 1* to 2*. It's very fast, and the pace is gradual, so you feel like you always learning always got things to do. That is the basic premise of the game. Which I think is solid and fun. HOWEVER, the scalability of this core mechanics is very poor. D3 cannot give us the same progression in 1* for 2*. Because we will run out of things to do. Maxing the characters are the *only* goal, which is broken down into 1) get more covers and 2) getting more iso. If right now, I pass you a maxed account, you will feel great... for 3s. And when you realise that you no longer have anything to look forward to, be it events or grinding, then it will just be boring boring stuff. So I come back to the original point, what is your expectation for the game? Drop the idea that you will progress at the same rate as when you were in 1*. Because the game can't allow you to do that, not unless they have suddenly a smooth tier of 1* to 10*. The game has to fundamentally change, and that's impossibly difficult in the next year or so. So far, d3 has shown me that they are aware of the problems of their gaming model. Hence some tough decisions were made, including true healing, level rescaling.... I haven't give up on them yet. The litmus test for me is the new event mode they have promised. To me, that would be make or break. If it breaks, well, I would just enjoy the game for it's match 3 and not be too worried about character acquisitions.
das boot wrote: I have been playing in a 20 man alliance for quite a long time now, and we have never done better than top 500. I've personally never done better than top 500 in seasonal events individually either. Those rewards are mute, because for many of us, they are not obtainable. I'm also not going to spend all of my free time grinding out every single event, whether I need the rewards or not, just so I might be able to break into the next bracket of prizes. This is a game, not a lifestyle.
Raekwen wrote: das boot wrote: I have been playing in a 20 man alliance for quite a long time now, and we have never done better than top 500. I've personally never done better than top 500 in seasonal events individually either. Those rewards are mute, because for many of us, they are not obtainable. I'm also not going to spend all of my free time grinding out every single event, whether I need the rewards or not, just so I might be able to break into the next bracket of prizes. This is a game, not a lifestyle. And you are exactly the type of player I'm referring to. You want to play casually, and don't want to put the time and effort that the rest of us have. That's your choice, but don't expect the rest of us to give way to you so your game can be easier. Sorry, life doesn't work that way. You should ask your boss at work, if you have one, if he'll give you a raise... but you don't want to work hard for it, you just want the other employees to give you their raises instead. Let me know how that goes.
mar·a·thon ˈmerəˌTHän/ noun noun: marathon; plural noun: marathons a long-distance running race, strictly one of 26 miles and 385 yards (42.195 km).a long-lasting or difficult task or operation of a specified kind. "the last leg of an interview marathon that began this summer" Origin
Raekwen wrote: Then it sounds like you're getting rewards, you're just not happy at how long it's going to take? mar·a·thon ˈmerəˌTHän/ noun noun: marathon; plural noun: marathons a long-distance running race, strictly one of 26 miles and 385 yards (42.195 km).a long-lasting or difficult task or operation of a specified kind. "the last leg of an interview marathon that began this summer" Origin If it was impossible, how did the rest of us get past it?
Raekwen wrote: lol, what are you basing your theory that there are less newer players on? As far as I can tell, and judging by the downloads, it's quite the opposite.
Raekwen wrote: You didn't answer the question. You again stated something that you have no factual information to back you up.