1800 to top 5 my bracket

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  • Unknown
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    We all just need to be patient with this game. I placed top 25 with little effort and my Blade is now 2/1/3. He's an awesome new character but him being 3/1/3 wouldn't make much of a difference. I rarely use characters until I can at least cover max them which typically takes a couple months. The people that want to shield hop and grind endlessly to double the progression rewards can spend their money and time however they want. They fund the continued development of the game so good on them. I've only reached over 1300 a handful of times and I have a pretty baller roster. Just play smart, be patient and the roster will come. If I were to change one thing I'd just lump them all in the same bracket so see which one would push to 5000 just to get an extra cover. icon_lol.gif
  • Wonko33
    Wonko33 Posts: 985 Critical Contributor
    chaos01 wrote:
    KevinMark wrote:
    HailMary wrote:
    KevinMark wrote:
    How about capping the top points to the last progression reward points? Is that a bad idea?

    What about just making it a race to 1300? 1st gets top prize so on until you get to the point when people stop hitting 1300. Leads to probably roughly the same placement. Less HP spent shielding after 1300, etc.and still a score only vets can get too.

    so your suggestion is that a company that probably makes most of it's money on HP sales introduce a game mechanic where people will use less of it?
  • Unknown
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    OnesOwnGrief wrote:
    It's safe to say nobody enjoys seeing these types of brackets but there's very little you can do about it.
    As much as this thread is me being pissed that I was stuck in a bracket with no less than 7 people willing to push upwards of 1800, this is the real point. Nobody seems to like this very much.
  • Wonko33
    Wonko33 Posts: 985 Critical Contributor
    Budget Player Cadet wrote:
    OnesOwnGrief wrote:
    It's safe to say nobody enjoys seeing these types of brackets but there's very little you can do about it.
    As much as this thread is me being pissed that I was stuck in a bracket with no less than 7 people willing to push upwards of 1800, this is the real point. Nobody seems to like this very much.

    then I agree with you, it sucks when we are stuck in a bracket like that, especially when you plan your time to give yourself a better chance taking in account past experience and you hit the death bracket-

    it is hard to find something that works for you when the rules change and you have to guess when is a good time to join too.
  • Moral
    Moral Posts: 512
    Part of the issue is that the scoring completely changes somewhere around 800 points.

    Under 800, I hear many high end players grind it out 25-30 points per match picking favorable opponents.

    Past 800, every team has max Hood and XForce or Sentry and MMR is wide open. It only makes sense to burn the iso to find 45+ point matches that cost almost nothing to lose.

    The other part is offering the same rewards for the rookie shards as the veteran shards. This is why there's a huge number of 2 star-transition teams running XForce: his covers are easier to get than 3 star characters for a transition player getting soft brackets.

    With the new event times being added in, I suggest adding an option for choosing novice or veteran brackets. No 4 star rewards and half iso for taking the easy bracket. Also remove the option for novice brackets after 10 or 20 top 10 finishes. Use the novice brackets as a way to build your roster, not a permanent place to be at the top.
  • Raekwen
    Raekwen Posts: 115 Tile Toppler
    Since I guess it needs to be said again: Lumping all of the veterans together is not the answer. Veteran players shouldn't have to pay for the fact that transitioning players don't want to work hard enough to get over the hump.

    If you want to extend the 3* rewards so it's a bit easier at the bottom of the bracket to place, sure. So instead of top 100, top 150 get one 3*? But the 166 wall is there for a reason. A 2* team shouldn't be able to get 1300+ points. Period.
  • Wonko33
    Wonko33 Posts: 985 Critical Contributor
    Moral wrote:
    Part of the issue is that the scoring completely changes somewhere around 800 points.

    Under 800, I hear many high end players grind it out 25-30 points per match picking favorable opponents.

    Past 800, every team has max Hood and XForce or Sentry and MMR is wide open. It only makes sense to burn the iso to find 45+ point matches that cost almost nothing to lose.

    I'm not high end but have a decent roster and you are correct, easily find good point matches that are not too hard until 600, then a little more competition and some attacks until 800, after it's a sentry fest all out brawl
  • Polares
    Polares Posts: 2,643 Chairperson of the Boards
    Moral wrote:
    The other part is offering the same rewards for the rookie shards as the veteran shards. This is why there's a huge number of 2 star-transition teams running XForce: his covers are easier to get than 3 star characters for a transition player getting soft brackets.

    This is for me one of the biggest problems of this game. New players have allmost no difficulty to score high in PvE and PvP, then they begin to win 3* and even 4*, before they even have a good 2* team. Then things start to get ugly for them, they begin to level up their characters and difficulty rise A LOT. And at this point they can't max their 3* or 4* because they still don't have all the covers and they need to start leveling again their 2* and begin the dreadful 2* -> 3* transition, which is hard.

    Things were different in the first months of this game. There was a clearer path, you got first your 1*, then you 2* then your 3* and in the end your 4*. It was IMPOSSIBLE to win a 4* with a 1* team, but nobody complained about it, because the transition had logic, you see, you have to walk before you start running. Now people starts to run first and then they have to start to walk when they fall.

    But of course, this is a completely different debate.


    I think there is no good solutions for this T5 super high scores. Scores have raised a lot in these last six months (Alliances have a lot to blame), and now when a new character is out, and it is good, it is war, and a really nasty war icon_razz.gif
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Its call top 5 for a reason.... otherwise everyone will get it. If u want it so badly then work for it. Alot of guys in top 5 position most if their time have been playing this game for ages....
    Then suddenly there are this guys with a few max 3 star covers expect developers to change the game model so they can get rewards easier..... wth...
    No matter the change.. xmen are going to be xmen... raiders are going to be raiders..... it wont affect the scores.
    Players nowadays are expecting too much... I see some expectinf to be in top 50 ot top 100 alliance after starting the game for like 1.month... this game is huge... more than a million downloads... only 2000 ppl can be in top 100.... work for it if u want it so badly...
  • Wonko33
    Wonko33 Posts: 985 Critical Contributor
    hotsaltysea1 wrote:
    Its call top 5 for a reason.... otherwise everyone will get it. If u want it so badly then work for it. Alot of guys in top 5 position most if their time have been playing this game for ages....
    Then suddenly there are this guys with a few max 3 star covers expect developers to change the game model so they can get rewards easier..... wth...
    No matter the change.. xmen are going to be xmen... raiders are going to be raiders..... it wont affect the scores.
    Players nowadays are expecting too much... I see some expectinf to be in top 50 ot top 100 alliance after starting the game for like 1.month... this game is huge... more than a million downloads... only 2000 ppl can be in top 100.... work for it if u want it so badly...

    True, but all that said you have to admit that it is way harder now for them to transition from 2-->3*. There were so few 3* when I started that first thing i knew I had a decent patch and a decent punisher that would get me top 25, the 3* pool is so diluted that all those people have a bunch of 1-3 covers 3* that will not even help them break top100
  • woopie
    woopie Posts: 311 Mover and Shaker
    Wonko33 wrote:
    hotsaltysea1 wrote:
    Its call top 5 for a reason.... otherwise everyone will get it. If u want it so badly then work for it. Alot of guys in top 5 position most if their time have been playing this game for ages....
    Then suddenly there are this guys with a few max 3 star covers expect developers to change the game model so they can get rewards easier..... wth...
    No matter the change.. xmen are going to be xmen... raiders are going to be raiders..... it wont affect the scores.
    Players nowadays are expecting too much... I see some expectinf to be in top 50 ot top 100 alliance after starting the game for like 1.month... this game is huge... more than a million downloads... only 2000 ppl can be in top 100.... work for it if u want it so badly...

    True, but all that said you have to admit that it is way harder now for them to transition from 2-->3*. There were so few 3* when I started that first thing i knew I had a decent patch and a decent punisher that would get me top 25, the 3* pool is so diluted that all those people have a bunch of 1-3 covers 3* that will not even help them break top100

    Agreed, plus they used to give out new covers like Halloween candy. Punisher was the first 3* that I fully covered and it only took a month or so to do that. He ended up being my first max level 3* and carried me through the transition when all I could really pair him with was 2* Thor. If I was stuck with a 8-10 cover Pun with little opportunity to get the last 3-5 covers, I'd probably still be stuck in the transition
  • Unknown
    Unknown
    Yes the covers give out are pathetic.... To some point d3 will have to increase the % of getting them.

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