Mike Tyson vs Lisa Simpson.....Fight !!!!!
With the way the brackets have been screwing over the various tournaments lately was thinking would just make more sense to just have level locked fighting brackets.
Pee Wee levels 1-20
Light Weight 20-50
Medium weight 50-85
Heavy weight 85-141
Supersize with extra Cheese 142-???
I think if we had the tournaments with rewards and match ups based off of levels would make it much more fair.Anyone who says that anyone can beat anyone is saying so sitting behind their stable of ragnaroks and mags etcs.
In lightning rounds since many of these huge opponents dont even need many of these covers and are farming them for the hero pts alone or just to sell off the covers,make it so that placing in the upper tier of a lightning round makes you skip the next one.They happen often enough.Saying well just grind it out like we did isnt the answer since those at the top now make it so those at the bottom cant break through since they didnt have unbeatable opponents to contend with when they first started playing,they were all at the same level with somewhat the same characterss.
The game is very fun but when the same 30 or so guys are always at the top and even admit they dont need the covers but keep doing the lightning rounds just so they can get the hero pts,it makes it so those of us who need those covers still never will get them.
Also having some 1 star tournaments with 3 star rewards would be a great way of helping the lowbie guys out too.I only mention this because the 3 star heroes and villains are so out of reach and it really makes no sense to make the reward for a lightning round also the boosted character.Make the Ragnarok lightning round where you can win him have the boosted toon be Bagman ! or Juggernaut!Change the toon every lightning round.
By Making the boosted toon in lightning rounds be the same as the reward and since its a 3 star only the big boys have a shot at it.By changing the boosted toon every lightning round it adds variety and also gives the majority of the community a chance at winning not just the top 2% and makes the rest of the toons in the current line up more useable instead of just fodder to be sold.
Anywhoo im putting on my Flameproof slicker so be gentle i bleed easy
Pee Wee levels 1-20
Light Weight 20-50
Medium weight 50-85
Heavy weight 85-141
Supersize with extra Cheese 142-???
I think if we had the tournaments with rewards and match ups based off of levels would make it much more fair.Anyone who says that anyone can beat anyone is saying so sitting behind their stable of ragnaroks and mags etcs.
In lightning rounds since many of these huge opponents dont even need many of these covers and are farming them for the hero pts alone or just to sell off the covers,make it so that placing in the upper tier of a lightning round makes you skip the next one.They happen often enough.Saying well just grind it out like we did isnt the answer since those at the top now make it so those at the bottom cant break through since they didnt have unbeatable opponents to contend with when they first started playing,they were all at the same level with somewhat the same characterss.
The game is very fun but when the same 30 or so guys are always at the top and even admit they dont need the covers but keep doing the lightning rounds just so they can get the hero pts,it makes it so those of us who need those covers still never will get them.
Also having some 1 star tournaments with 3 star rewards would be a great way of helping the lowbie guys out too.I only mention this because the 3 star heroes and villains are so out of reach and it really makes no sense to make the reward for a lightning round also the boosted character.Make the Ragnarok lightning round where you can win him have the boosted toon be Bagman ! or Juggernaut!Change the toon every lightning round.
By Making the boosted toon in lightning rounds be the same as the reward and since its a 3 star only the big boys have a shot at it.By changing the boosted toon every lightning round it adds variety and also gives the majority of the community a chance at winning not just the top 2% and makes the rest of the toons in the current line up more useable instead of just fodder to be sold.
Anywhoo im putting on my Flameproof slicker so be gentle i bleed easy
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Ppl will complain theyre locked out of some tourneys.0
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true that but i kinda feel locked out of tournaments now.When every lightning tournament is flooded with lvl 120+ rags,Mags,hoods, galactus,superman etc...you get my meaning.
The levels seen in lightning tournaments are sIo out of reach its insanse.Being "locked" out of some tournaments woudl actually allow more people to compete be.cause many dont even bother because they will and do get beat down in seconds flat.
Im not asking for an unfair advantage im just asking for a level playing field which is what the main crew at the top had when the first started,they had same levels guys with same toons going up against them,its not like they had to face off against what the larger community has to fight tooth n nail for now.
So if anything instead of asking people like myself to "stop whining" id almost say its the other way around,all im asking is that the larger community of players who are not "uber in level and roster at least be able to face off against each other and not be expected to win rewards,place well in tournaments and have any kind of fun when going up against opponents 2 or 3 times our level and characters.
Level playing field is all im asking for such an amazing game0 -
I only mention this because the 2 star heroes and villains are so out of reach0
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You basically need to get lucky quite a few times and work your way up from there.0
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There is no doubt that this came is quite challenging when you first start. I started a few weeks after the game was released and i didn't even touch tournaments, just enjoyed the prologue. I remember the first time I fought Jugs in the last levels of his prologue chapter. I though it was impossible to beat. "There is no way. How could anyone do this". And I'm sure that is how you feel about pvp tournaments. It will be that way for a little while. Don't stress about it. Play each tornament and get whatever rewards you can. You'll get a lucky few drops from standard tokens that will give you a big break (incidentally I've gotten 4-5 ** and 1 *** covers from the standard tokens this week. Most of them usefull in some way. Its been a good week). Eventually you'll start to crack the top 25 of tournaments or get some good progreesion rewards. It will be very rewarding for all your hard work. Just enjoy it as it comes and try to remember its just a game and not worth getting too frustrated about.0
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Well David vs Goliath or something may have been more appropriate. Lisa Simpson would whoop mike Tyson's ****. She's a cartoon and can't die. Mike Tyson is an old boxer with ear breath. Therefore you are saying you have a huge advantage since I believe your comparing yourself to Lisa. Also there's a lot of characters in this game. When you reference 5 one if which is superman you sound kinda silly. Maybe I'll be you a thesaurus so you understand math and letters and geology.0
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I mean to put that 3 stars are out of reach,fixed post to reflect that.And the game shouldnt be about luck or the fact that some gamers started before others did.While those who did obviously will be further ahead than others we shouldnt have to be matched up against them in pvp.For example,pvp in most mmos is level locked to with certain levels say 10 levels depending on level cap.This is to give all players a fighting chance taking into account that some players would have better gear that others sure but in this game the "gear" would be the 3 star characters.
At least by Putting us in the same level ranges for pvp match ups in tournaments it gives all players a chance to rank up and receive rewards,otherwese its teh fat getter fatter and the lil guy staying well...little.0 -
Psykopathic wrote:Well David vs Goliath or something may have been more appropriate. Lisa Simpson would whoop mike Tyson's ****. She's a cartoon and can't die. Mike Tyson is an old boxer with ear breath. Therefore you are saying you have a huge advantage since I believe your comparing yourself to Lisa. Also there's a lot of characters in this game. When you reference 5 one if which is superman you sound kinda silly. Maybe I'll be you a thesaurus so you understand math and letters and geology.
Sigh wow flame trolls flame.Well mike tyson is a boxer hence the reference.Lisa simpson is a small fictional character and since we play a video game about fictional characters i assumed most could see the small professional boxer reference beating up a little girl versus me naming a real life girl down the street no one knows.
And while Superman may be a DC character he is still considered by many to be at the high end of the Overpowered Superhero spectrum hence the reference again i was trying to make about unfair odds.
And yes i was also trying to be silly to keep it light hearted so as not to anger anyone and i can see not everyone tries to do that.
And what does geology and the study of rocks have to do with my post or superheroes ? instead of a thesaurus maybe you should grab yourself a dictionary and look definitions before you flame troll someone trying to get constructive feedback from the community.I'm still new to the forums and was hoping for more.my bad.0 -
I love guys like you who are given a roadmap by someone who did what you want to do, "the moose" a couple posts above, and your whining continues. Have you tried what he suggested? Go and do what he said and come back in a couple of weeks, then you'll come off less entitled. All of us who were here early still had to earn our 3*'s they weren't handed out like candy. In fact I've been irritated that the devs have been handing out Spideys like candy when it took me six weeks to get all three covers grinding away. The forums have been invaded by a bunch of whiners who want what it took most of the so-called "big boys" weeks to acquire. When you don't have them you whine it is unfair. If anyone of you will have gone and done exactly what "the moose" suggested and then come back and tell me you're not competitive then it won't sound like a spoiled child. It doesn't happen overnight. You are just like Lisa Simpson you'll never grow up and work for what you want you just want it handed to you.
Go grind it out for a couple of weeks and then tell me about it.0 -
Thesaurus / geology were thrown in to make it obvious that it was a "joke" duh duh duh duh!!0
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I started around the time I joined the forums, basically did that same thing. It's basically how every f2p mobile game works.
Reap every recruit token you can(I probably spent around 10k on tokens as well) and hope you get lucky. But basically if you're playing you free that's how it works.
Keep going and build up. It's called winning because some people lose.0 -
Elementalor wrote:It's called winning because some people lose.
It's called whining because some people don't know how to lose.0 -
Purty Hawkeye wrote:Elementalor wrote:It's called winning because some people lose.
It's called whining because some people don't know how to lose.
Its called being a trolling jerk Wang if all you can do is put people down with nothing constructive to say.I farmed the hunt for hours. And was number 1 for days.then the system of scoring they had in place locked me out of missions for the weekend so I couldn't even compete.
I'm willing to put in time and effort I'm just asking the devs to be forthcoming with rules for tournamentn scoring as well as leveling the playing field in PvP..
Calling people whiners because they don't want to be beat down by you is being childish and doesn't help the community when we are trying to give our opinion of the game and get flamed so hard. If you don't like my idea so fine but quit making this feel like and call of duty lobby.0 -
the moose wrote:There is no doubt that this came is quite challenging when you first start. I started a few weeks after the game was released and i didn't even touch tournaments, just enjoyed the prologue. I remember the first time I fought Jugs in the last levels of his prologue chapter. I though it was impossible to beat. "There is no way. How could anyone do this". And I'm sure that is how you feel about pvp tournaments. It will be that way for a little while. Don't stress about it. Play each tornament and get whatever rewards you can. You'll get a lucky few drops from standard tokens that will give you a big break (incidentally I've gotten 4-5 ** and 1 *** covers from the standard tokens this week. Most of them usefull in some way. Its been a good week). Eventually you'll start to crack the top 25 of tournaments or get some good progreesion rewards. It will be very rewarding for all your hard work. Just enjoy it as it comes and try to remember its just a game and not worth getting too frustrated about.
As a starter who finally maxed iron man(default one) i can say.. even with my "refined" gameplay sometimes i can take on 2star thor team with my ironman/blackwidow/storm where many many times i just loose fights to the exact same rosters as my own, except they are way behind in levels than me. So to bash a ragnaros once means getting out of medkits and getting out of tournament immediatly.
I also wanted to create a topic to ask how to even perform best against some classes where they do insane damage with LOW skill points need to cast it. It was pretty cool in lightning rounds to hide behind the 3star villain hero who is rented for that battle, and not loose a ton of health, but now when no villain is lending his hand its even harder to compete in those other tourneys.0 -
Folks, please, keep it civil or take it elsewhere.0
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Marvelous_Hero5 wrote:I also wanted to create a topic to ask how to even perform best against some classes where they do insane damage with LOW skill points need to cast it. It was pretty cool in lightning rounds to hide behind the 3star villain hero who is rented for that battle, and not loose a ton of health, but now when no villain is lending his hand its even harder to compete in those other tourneys.
Hiding behind a rented villain/hero is a great strategy when they are buffed. I did the same thing in the recent doom weekend tournament and was able to ride him all the way to the 1100 progression with minimal healthpacks. Use the jungle arena and make good use of thorned rose. Make sure you use boosts effectively to speed up your ability to climb the ranks. You won't gain much if any iso but it will help you reach progression rewards which is IMO the easiest way to build your team (and the only way if you aren't strong enough to place well in tournaments.
And I think you (all newbs) will find that this is a great community. The big dogs (I am not one yet) are happy to give out advice to help you progress to their level. And while suggestions are welcome to improve the game, those of us who read the forums regularly get sick of newcomers droping in just to say how much they hate the game because they can't do such and such. Comments like "I've been playing for a whole two weeks and I don't have a rag cover yet" are not going to get you very kind responses (I've been playing for about 7 weeks and just got my first one 2 days ago). Seriously,go read through the top 20 threads on the board and see how much hate is out there. It gets tiresome. (Apparently I've made it my personal mission to rebutle as many of these remarks as possible today)
So just keep the comments positive and respect when more experienced players tell you why your idea won't work for the developers or the MPQ community and you will be welcome to the forums and get the most out of your MPQ experience0 -
I'll one up your roadmap for thorns +meat shield.
Do you have a mid level or higher thor? Do you have a modern storm? Then shut up and play the lightning rounds on the forest lvl using boosts. Grab a 3 match of forest tile, then use storms red (if you have her red @ 3 or below...head slap). 9 times out of ten that is enough for a thorns. That is basically starting the second turn with +8 all (except red which will have a torm red worth chunk missing). Add a +3 green and a +3 red as the other boosts (the red so you can do her red on the second turn. Green so you can use her green on the second turn). Now use her green to build more ap. You will have enough for thors yellow by now. Don't use mjolnir...save that for A. Building more yellow via well placed mjolnir or B. Using storm's red to grab more forest tiles. Your goal is to always be aiming to grab forest tiles or cause 4+ matches. You should get lots of cascades. And basically win within 3-4 turns. Many times turn 2. Anybody can do it, though its not always the fastest way. Slowly chunking down a max boosted rag on turn 2 is both amusing and gratifying. Having a good villain is a boon, and mag is a actually does this stray better than thor, bit neither is required by any means.
Edit: just to make it clear..that was a joking shut up..I don't mind the complaints as I do think there are some changes that should be made..despite being able to get top 25 consistently and push for top 8 relatively consistently (no money spent. Started late Nov, 3/2 rag 3/3/3 mag 5/3 doom 3/3 Loki)0 -
I'm also one of the early players and I have to say that in this thread specifically I'm not that happy with the responses of the top dogs. I think here was spoken of a problem that indeed aroused after all the first players got their high level villains. At the start there was really a lot easier competition because very few had high level villains and the overall community was smaller. The amount of covers given out in one round did not change the whole time so in my opinion it's a fact that it is now a lot lot harder to place well and here was given a constructive way to change things. I also see that there are a lot of whining threads lately but we also have to be fair and read all threads carefully.
That said I also think they should change lighting rounds because of the growing community and the growing numbers of three star villains in play. And please not in this way that we (the early players) have too big of an advantage.0 -
Let's keep it real , in a game like this you have 4 options
1) Pay alot and win quickly...
2) Play alot and win eventually
3) Pay some, and play some and steadily make progress
4) Pay nothing and play some and not get the same rewards as everyone else...
That i the beauty in a game like this it's your decision on how you want to play...Don't have alot of time? Pay some money to help yourself along...Unemployed and broke? Then play all day and collect enough ISOs to feed an Army...
The game has it's faults but overall if you are dedicated you will win some rewards...In most tourney's even the 100th to 1000th place give decent rewards... Others gave some good advice as well, but your idea just doesn't make logical sense and you will have individuals work that type of system with dummy accounts...0 -
WilliamK99 wrote:Let's keep it real , in a game like this you have 4 options
1) Pay alot and win quickly...
2) Play alot and win eventually
3) Pay some, and play some and steadily make progress
4) Pay nothing and play some and not get the same rewards as everyone else...
That i the beauty in a game like this it's your decision on how you want to play...Don't have alot of time? Pay some money to help yourself along...Unemployed and broke? Then play all day and collect enough ISOs to feed an Army...
The game has it's faults but overall if you are dedicated you will win some rewards...In most tourney's even the 100th to 1000th place give decent rewards... Others gave some good advice as well, but your idea just doesn't make logical sense and you will have individuals work that type of system with dummy accounts...
I would honestly argue that this game is "pay none and win eventually". The strongest characters have all been out since launch. There's no power creep (so far). Unless that changes, you will catch the top end players eventually as long as you keep playing. They can't get any further ahead than they already are. Sure, they can acquire more characters, but unless those characters are stronger, it doesn't matter.0
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