Forced characters in PvE

Knyghtmare

I need to get this off my chest, because it has been bothering me for a while, and often seems to come up when there is a new characters in PvE. STOP FORCING US TO USE SPECIFIC, OFTEN **** CHARACTERS IN PVE. Patch is one thing, but then making Daredevil and She-Hulk the other 3*s? There is a reason no one uses them. THEY SUCK. Instead of improving them to get people to use them, you force us to use them and to put levels in them. The 2*s are fine in comparison, many players have OBW filled and almost everybody has the parts to create LazyWeakHumanTorch. As for 1*s, Hawkeye? Really! Really!! Really!!! When will you get it through your thick skulls they no one will ever use him if they have any other character. This type of PvE is not fun, only frustrating and adds to the belief, which is fact, that you are far more interested in making money than in your customers having fun. This is why I've never put money in a Play to Win game, and why I never would. Games that have been bought have no reason to pull this, since there is no money (with exceptions) left to be made.

Jasonzakibe

Dude, the majority of these fights are against goons. They made Daredevil a featured character. Not only are they obviously putting zero thought into this, but they clearly have never even played this game before.

CrookedKnight

On the other hand, Hawkeye is basically only useful against goons, so we've got that going for us.

Kelbris

Jasonzakibe wrote:

Dude, the majority of these fights are against goons. They made Daredevil a featured character. Not only are they obviously putting zero thought into this, but they clearly have never even played this game before.

Not the first heroic where this has happened

It's intended

Its supposed to be **** hard. That's why it's heroic mode.

This new generation of gamers just want **** handed to them. If a game as hard as contra came out now there would be **** riots.

SnowcaTT

It's not "fun", but hard/heroic doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is heroic tourneys for new characters.
And three-day tournaments for new characters over a summer weekend.
And three-day tournaments for a new characters over a heavily traveled holiday weekend.

And three-day heroics for new characters over a three-day summer holiday weekend bother me most of all.

Unknown

The point of these limited roster is to encourage you get out of your comfort zone and use character you're not comfortable with.

And due to a lack of balance in the game, getting out of your comfort zone usually means using characters who are very bad, but everyone else is subject to the same handicap as well. It's no worse than the half of the PvP events where you're forced to use someone who does nothing except stand there for the whole fight.

Jasonzakibe

It's not about difficulty. It's just another example of them trolling their playerbase. Either that or they're too stupid to know how the game works.

Beat Contra on the NES without the quote.

Unknown

SnowcaTT wrote:

It's not "fun", but hard/heroic doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is heroic tourneys for new characters.
And three-day tournaments for new characters over a summer weekend.
And three-day tournaments for a new characters over a heavily traveled holiday weekend.

And three-day heroics for new characters over a three-day summer holiday weekend bother me most of all.

Just think that some ppl may not have a long weekend

Zen808

This is why the networks need to do a Macgyver reboot. Too many people get used to shows like NCIS, where the good guys have all the best tools available to catch the bad guy. Macgyver had a pocket knife, a rubber band, and some pocket lint. Did he complain about "oh, these tools suck?" No, he made them tinykitty work like a tinykitty tinykitty!

HairyDave

eris-wtga wrote:

SnowcaTT wrote:

It's not "fun", but hard/heroic doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is heroic tourneys for new characters.
And three-day tournaments for new characters over a summer weekend.
And three-day tournaments for a new characters over a heavily traveled holiday weekend.

And three-day heroics for new characters over a three-day summer holiday weekend bother me most of all.

Just think that some ppl may not have a long weekend

Shh!

That's the secret of my success

IamTheDanger

Just because you can't see the value of these "****" characters, does not mean others can't. I have a very, Very diverse roster, by which i mean , at least 2 of every character, even Fury and Yelena. (I know, 2 Yelenas and all that. My name is James and i'm an MPQ addict. At least I'm out of the denial stage). And I'll tell you a little secret, I LIKE to play the "****" characters. I can choose literally any hero in the game, yet I play with low tier heros more than others. Everyone says X Force, (like he is now, not the buffed version coming soon), Bagman, DD, and others are no good and "suck kitties" yet I play them all the time. Now why do you think that is? Hmmm?

I'll tell you. Because they are FUN .... TO .... PLAY. They may not be able to win a match in 90 seconds, but it's not all about winning. IMHO, half the people playing this game are playing wrong. They are so worried about using the strongest character to get the most points they can so they can beat everyone else that they forget to ... HAVE .... FUN ! ! !

Now I will admit that there are some heros that are weak. However, if you have a good strategy and pair them with the right partner, then, weak as they are, they can still kick the tiniest tiny kitty out of the tiny kitties tiny kitty. Some of them are weak, as I said, but Only by them selves. So again, just because you don't see the value of Bagman, DD, She Hulk or Hawkeye, does not mean it's not there.

Unknown

If we're really going to get into it, this isn't that bad a roster. Patch is a monster boosted like this. If you have him at 5 yellow covers he's basically impossible to kill. She-Hulk isn't as bad as everyone seems to think, particularly boosted. Her green is an abomination (no Hulk pun intended), but her blue is actually quite good against goons if you have it at 5 covers, useful against Daken and Bullseye regardless, and her red is a solid AoE with good cascade potential. Daredevil is iffy, lots of goons in this event that he doesn't help with, and Daken overwriting his traps makes him sad, but Moonstone LOVES to match red and there are crotch kicks to be had here and there if you're so inclined. OBW and CStorm are 2* mainstays. No excuse for not having them well covered and leveled unless you're very new, and they can carry you pretty far on their own. Torch-lite (just one calorie) is an okay 2* damage dealer. Boosted he's solid if you're lacking 3* options. IM35 and CHawkeye are useable in their own ways as 1* fill ins. Armored Assault is a solid power boosted if you're lacking other options, great after a Berserker Rage, and Take Aim is a useful purple if you're not running OBW.

Bottom line, it's a Heroic with a limited roster. It's designed to encourage people to keep larger rosters than they normal would because you never know who you're going to need for these things. It's basically a money making tactic. You don't have to like it, but it is what it is. They've saddled us with some real stinkers of limited rosters in the past for these things, but realistically this one isn't that bad. If you've got a well covered, well leveled Patch, you're pretty much good to go right there. If you're a 2* player, OBW/CStorm/IM35 can get you pretty far, farther if you mix in the archer and the blowtorch. All in all, not that bad.

Unknown

SnowcaTT wrote:

It's not "fun", but hard/heroic doesn't bother me.

What bothers me is heroic tourneys for new characters.
And three-day tournaments for new characters over a summer weekend.
And three-day tournaments for a new characters over a heavily traveled holiday weekend.

And three-day heroics for new characters over a three-day summer holiday weekend bother me most of all.

Yeah, a little thought on the order would be nice. Why couldn't we have had the 10-day PvE be the one with a new character reward? Instead of, you know, the 3-day one with no subs and rubberbanding up the gigantic ****.

Unknown

Patch She-Hulk CStorm is OP as hell. Patch green then either Storm Blue or She-Hulk Red kills everyone. If you get red you don't even take any damage because Patch tanks. This is one of the easiest Heroic lineups ever, at least since Feb when I joined. Shame I have a life and will be busy this weekend. Horrible timing, amazing character selection.

Bowgentle

Budget Player Cadet wrote:

Yeah, a little thought on the order would be nice. Why couldn't we have had the 10-day PvE be the one with a new character reward? Instead of, you know, the 3-day one with no subs and rubberbanding up the gigantic ****.

Because people were complaining that they had to grind hardcore for new chars and would much prefer a shorter PVE to introduce new chars?

IamTheDanger

Bowgentle wrote:

Budget Player Cadet wrote:

Yeah, a little thought on the order would be nice. Why couldn't we have had the 10-day PvE be the one with a new character reward? Instead of, you know, the 3-day one with no subs and rubberbanding up the gigantic ****.

Because people were complaining that they had to grind hardcore for new chars and would much prefer a shorter PVE to introduce new chars?

But the problem is, a lot of people don't grind at all. Thanks to rubberbanding bull kitty, I grind every 2.5 hours like clock work just to have some lazy **** tiny kitty come in at the end and get high points off my hard work. Then they pass me and knock me out of the top 10, top 5 or even top2. I do all the work and get jack sh!+ for it. I've lost out on a few covers because of this ****. Brackets need to be put back to time placement. That way everyone in my bracket starts the same time I do. Or better yet, lower the rubberbanding to like 75% of the highest score. Coming in at the end and playing for a couple hours should NOT give someone more points than me if I've played evey 2.5 hours for days. Be it 3 days or 10.

I understand that some can't play like I do.
The people that have lives or families and cant play all the time can come in at the end and play against other players that just started. That way those players can have a chance at top awards also.

Unknown

Budget Player Cadet wrote:

Yeah, a little thought on the order would be nice. Why couldn't we have had the 10-day PvE be the one with a new character reward? Instead of, you know, the 3-day one with no subs and rubberbanding up the gigantic ****.

I wouldn't be surprised if the long weekend was the thought behind the 3 days

themoneymaker

This post is a troll right?

Kelbris

Jasonzakibe wrote:

It's not about difficulty. It's just another example of them trolling their playerbase. Either that or they're too stupid to know how the game works.

Beat Contra on the NES without the quote.

I'm more of a super contra person myself. Still on the NES.

And don't use daredevil. Best team is patch/OBW/Lil torch. daredevil still wouldn't be better than that three even if all fights had no goons.

Most enemies use green.
OBW steals green, controls CD, and double dips on patch. Has espionage to steal extra black for torch.
Torch can dip in to strike at the beginning and end of your turn with flame jet and Inferno respectively.
if you put down strike tiles, a flame jet, Inferno, and then match something with espionage, you use strike tiles four times per turn.

why the hell would you use anyone else?

I figured out that this is the best team without having even played a single match in the tournament.

Unknown

I don't get the She-Hulk hate. She might be kind of useless in PvP but she's good in PvE. In this heroic she's the one good way of clearing out CDs with settlement and her AoE is decent with Patch strikes.

Having DD in the PvE is kind of sucky between goon nodes and Daken overwriting his Ambush tiles (PLEASE FIX THAT **** MECHANIC D3 and let traps persist when specials are places on the tile. Just reuse the code for force bubbles and Bagman webs!) but otherwise it's a decent selection of heroes for a change.

Unknown

She Hulk is quite good for this event, but you need level 5 Settlement to clear CDs. Still, there's usually no shortage of Daken/Bullseye in the current event. Power of Attorney is a very good move too and combos well with Berserker Rage, but again you need the covers (I only have 3) and levels. My She-Hulk is like level 110 or so in this event, which is pretty low when everyone gets a +40 levels but she's still pretty useful even being quite underleveled and missing 2 red covers.