Blind Justice - Aug 27-29 - Season V

squirrel1120

PPPlaya wrote:

@squirrel: Why use 93 3 Stars? Aren't they worse than 94 2 Stars?

tldr: Definitely worse (except lcap compared to 2* cap). Because healthpacks and pve focus.

But, when going for a high point team that I don't consider hard, they are certainly viable for *1* match. In this case I was pretty confident I could save enough AP to stunlock hulk and red-shield him to death last. Both thor/hulk are slow on offense, and I'd taken the combo pretty easily with these two toons before.

The other reason being that obw, the normal all-star of my pvp team make-up, has to be devoted to pve atm. That nixes obw+r/g/y combos. c.storm is out also being in the pve, so even if I wanted to bleed pvp points out of my ears by running stormneto, not so much. I have yet to pick up a few 2*'s, so if I don't throw the 93 3*'s into the mix, I won't even make a top 100 for a single card. Honestly, I'll run 93 Lcap over 2* cap at this point. Shield stun is the same plus protect tiles, red shield hits a lot harder (double the dmg), and even SoL pt's are stronger, all on 8/13 covers. I count on that to make up for the small difference in match damage and the 100 hit points he's missing.

...and mostorm was basically just on the team to have a good outlet for black and green, since dd/lcap had the rest of the rainbow covered. Tinytorch would probably be better, but I haven't had a slot open long enough to pick him up yet since his release. Coulda built him 3x with all his covers that've been sold.

Unknown

Ok so I finally had enough PvPs to confirm this. My MMR works like this. 2 Star teams up until 700. As soon as you cross 700, its ALL 166 teams from now on. Had to skip 10 times to find a nonmaxed opponent. Which was a 2 Star team. No middleground at all.
That's so lazy. I also suspect that once over 700 my team tends to show up for a lot more 166 players. So even if I skip a bunch to find somebody I can beat somebody will quickly beat me and I lose all the points.
I understand I shouldn't be able to get to 900 while people with good rosters are trailing behind but that's such an arbitrary number.
Instead of lumping people together into groups based on their points I would much like a more smooth transition. Give me a couple 130-140 opponents before I get the maxed ones. The algorithm definitely needs tweaking on that end.

OnesOwnGrief

PPPlaya wrote:

Ok so I finally had enough PvPs to confirm this. My MMR works like this. 2 Star teams up until 700. As soon as you cross 700, its ALL 166 teams from now on. Had to skip 10 times to find a nonmaxed opponent. Which was a 2 Star team. No middleground at all.
That's so lazy. I also suspect that once over 700 my team tends to show up for a lot more 166 players. So even if I skip a bunch to find somebody I can beat somebody will quickly beat me and I lose all the points.
I understand I shouldn't be able to get to 900 while people with good rosters are trailing behind but that's such an arbitrary number.
Instead of lumping people together into groups based on their points I would much like a more smooth transition. Give me a couple 130-140 opponents before I get the maxed ones. The algorithm definitely needs tweaking on that end.

But what if those opponents aren't up to the points you need? I typically enter PvP when it starts and this previous PvP I went to 600 out the gate. No 2* team until the last day when they actually managed to get up to that number.

Unknown

Them's the apples I guess. I generally play in 3-4 Bursts.
0-300
300-450
450-600
600-700+Shield

There is no point in getting to 600 because I will be hit down again by people like you so it's not very efficient.
But that's just a product of the PVP system. The MMR algorithm can't help you if there aren't any good matches.
This *may* also be the reason why I can't find any matches over 700 because the other people are in a similar situation. Even if you manage to bounce off of other 2 Star teams (8 700 2 Star teams, then the winners of those at 725, then the winners of those at 750 etc) it doesn't do you any good because you will immediately lose everything because the 166s get you in their queue. The transition from 2 Star to 3 Star in PVP is very heavyhanded and the number 700 seems very arbitrary.
I'm not gonna complain as long as I still can Top25, it's just something I noticed that is very weird.

Rusalka

Man, playing DD is so frustrating! One match, I had five trap tiles on the board fairly early on, and not one of them got tripped. Last game, I had an Ambush tile sitting smack in the middle of the board, with several red tiles clustered nearby, offering multiple potential matches -- the AI stubbornly ignored it, despite having three red users on the team. And that's just the cases where the traps didn't get shoved into the bottom corners. That right there is why I've never bothered leveling my DD.

Anyhow, I've pushed to just above 800 for the HP, then shielded for the duration. This should leave my Falcon cover maxed at 4/5/4. Not the best build, and he'll have to wait in line behind Patch and Sentry for the ISO, but it'll still be nice to have him covered. He's a fun character to play and has been super-helpful to me in PVE.

OnesOwnGrief

PPPlaya wrote:

Them's the apples I guess. I generally play in 3-4 Bursts.
0-300
300-450
450-600
600-700+Shield

There is no point in getting to 600 because I will be hit down again by people like you so it's not very efficient.
But that's just a product of the PVP system. The MMR algorithm can't help you if there aren't any good matches.
This *may* also be the reason why I can't find any matches over 700 because the other people are in a similar situation. Even if you manage to bounce off of other 2 Star teams (8 700 2 Star teams, then the winners of those at 725, then the winners of those at 750 etc) it doesn't do you any good because you will immediately lose everything because the 166s get you in their queue. The transition from 2 Star to 3 Star in PVP is very heavyhanded and the number 700 seems very arbitrary.
I'm not gonna complain as long as I still can Top25, it's just something I noticed that is very weird.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I don't have a maxed roster and none of my characters are over 135. I gotta pick and choose my battles while trying to get that top 25 finish myself. The only thing I do have going for me is that I have a good number of characters that I can use and what compositions work with what. To bad that I haven't gotten more than 2 defensive wins this PvP lol.

Ludaa

Spider-Prime, my apologies, I think I sentry-bombed you twice in a row while you were pushing to 1300. Switched my vision to "40, Anything but Hood/Sentry" mode

Edit: Pour one out for Originalmack whoever they are! Unshielded close to 1100, never to be seen again...

Raekwen

Thanks for the hit that registered after the event ended jl, I didnt want 1500 anyways

Unknown

raek13 wrote:

Thanks for the hit that registered after the event ended jl, I didnt want 1500 anyways

Sorry about that. I thought I was the only crazy who had unshielded at the last minute... aside from the others in my crazy bracket of craziness.



Top 5 must have changed 3-4 times in the last 10-15 minutes. 7th went unshielded for the last 20 or so minutes, and was T5 for a while, but must have gotten hit. 4 passed me and shielded, 3 passed but remained unshielded. Turns out my score before I hit ebck and you would have held at 1125, but the way people were moving I couldn't be certain. And it helped us get/stay T10 for alliance rewards.

On the up side, I can finally finish off Falcon. He's been stuck at 4/5/4 for a long time, and now he can go to 5/5/3 and be a PVE monster.

OnesOwnGrief

top 10. Guess I should be happy since I had to buy Health Packs for that. Should have just got the shield when I got close to my target instead of taking the 4 hits trying to break it.

Unknown

I'm quite pleased with how things went this PvP. First time breaking 900 since season 1, and most of it was from def wins, and using the loaner DD instead of my lv70 (boosted to 105) to accompany my Sentry+Hood. I figured the outside chance of a crotch kick was less intimidating than the guarantee of a Supernova.

I shielded at 627 with just under 3 hours to go, wound up getting def wins up to 761. Unshielded last hour for a quick match (almost hitting 800, reshielded with 40 minutes to go. Def wins on and off for the remainder of the event (with plenty of def losses, of course,) two of which happened in the last 5 minutes to bump me over 900. Def wins carried me to 917! o.O

With everyone knowing how op Sentry is, why do I get so many def wins? My Sentry is lv130, but my Hood is only lv96, and I got a LOT of def wins. Definitely not complaining, just wondering ****.

Man, am I lucky that all my Sentry and Hood covers were from placement or tokens (and the free one from Prodigal Sun). I guess an F2P player can occasionally get a leg up. =]

squirrel1120

PPPlaya wrote:

Them's the apples I guess. I generally play in 3-4 Bursts.
0-300
300-450
450-600
600-700+Shield

There is no point in getting to 600 because I will be hit down again by people like you so it's not very efficient.
But that's just a product of the PVP system. The MMR algorithm can't help you if there aren't any good matches.
This *may* also be the reason why I can't find any matches over 700 because the other people are in a similar situation. Even if you manage to bounce off of other 2 Star teams (8 700 2 Star teams, then the winners of those at 725, then the winners of those at 750 etc) it doesn't do you any good because you will immediately lose everything because the 166s get you in their queue. The transition from 2 Star to 3 Star in PVP is very heavyhanded and the number 700 seems very arbitrary.
I'm not gonna complain as long as I still can Top25, it's just something I noticed that is very weird.

You get to top 25 with scores under 6-700? ****. >.< Talk about numbers being arbitrary. I scrap to keep top 100/50 with scores 550-650, all dependant on how many health packs are left after pve and how mean rng is.

I fell asleep early last night and missed my final push, finishing 108. Tinycat, I wanted that blue falcon too. The sooner he can snipe countdown tiles for pve, the better.

Unknown

NightsReign wrote:

With everyone knowing how op Sentry is, why do I get so many def wins? My Sentry is lv130, but my Hood is only lv96, and I got a LOT of def wins. Definitely not complaining, just wondering ****.

Your Sentry being lvl 130 is exactly the reason you are getting the defensive wins. People make a wide arc around 166 Sentrys but they see your team and think it is easy pickings, even though they should know better. You'd get a lot less defensive wins from a maxlevel Sentry simply because nobody is attacking him. Sentry is no joke, even underlevelled.

squirrel1120 wrote:

PPPlaya wrote:

There is no point in getting to 600 because I will be hit down again by people like you so it's not very efficient.
But that's just a product of the PVP system. The MMR algorithm can't help you if there aren't any good matches.
This *may* also be the reason why I can't find any matches over 700 because the other people are in a similar situation. Even if you manage to bounce off of other 2 Star teams (8 700 2 Star teams, then the winners of those at 725, then the winners of those at 750 etc) it doesn't do you any good because you will immediately lose everything because the 166s get you in their queue. The transition from 2 Star to 3 Star in PVP is very heavyhanded and the number 700 seems very arbitrary.
I'm not gonna complain as long as I still can Top25, it's just something I noticed that is very weird.

You get to top 25 with scores under 6-700? ****. >.< Talk about numbers being arbitrary. I scrap to keep top 100/50 with scores 550-650, all dependant on how many health packs are left after pve and how mean rng is.

No, I don't. And I didn't claim that. Firmly Top25 is at about ~725. I got 18th with 727 in this.

Unknown

761 got me 18th in my bracket.

Unknown

Got up to 816 and threw up an 8-hour at around #3. Figured I'd drop down to top ten or 25; managed to stay top 5. My brackets started getting a lot softer when I stopped trying to get 900 every PVP; either sharding is down overall or I've managed to get mine reduced.

squirrel1120

squirrel1120 wrote:

PPPlaya wrote:

There is no point in getting to 600 because I will be hit down again by people like you so it's not very efficient.
But that's just a product of the PVP system. The MMR algorithm can't help you if there aren't any good matches.
This *may* also be the reason why I can't find any matches over 700 because the other people are in a similar situation. Even if you manage to bounce off of other 2 Star teams (8 700 2 Star teams, then the winners of those at 725, then the winners of those at 750 etc) it doesn't do you any good because you will immediately lose everything because the 166s get you in their queue. The transition from 2 Star to 3 Star in PVP is very heavyhanded and the number 700 seems very arbitrary.
I'm not gonna complain as long as I still can Top25, it's just something I noticed that is very weird.

You get to top 25 with scores under 6-700? ****. >.< Talk about numbers being arbitrary. I scrap to keep top 100/50 with scores 550-650, all dependant on how many health packs are left after pve and how mean rng is.

No, I don't. And I didn't claim that. Firmly Top25 is at about ~725. I got 18th with 727 in this.[/quote]

I misunderstood. Apologies. I wish I was that good a player, and I'm not being facetious, I mean it.

Are you shielding? I'm still trying to expand my roster. I need to get a few more of the 2*'s maxed with the HP that comes in the next month+. Moonie, hawk and tinytorch would all give me a few more options when trying to climb.

Unknown

I am almost always putting up a 3 hour shield because I can't find opponents during the last 30 minutes of the event. Plus it's so hectic you are probably getting hit a ton.