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jp1 said:

To be frank about it, this really seems like a Thorkoye problem. No free leaps to the top without using health packs. 

PVP is playable for me with my own Gritty/Bishop and Okoye/Sabretooth/Random third I bring. In fact I can usually place just as high or higher than before and definitely get further on progression. 

If Thorkoye was my go to Meta I’d probably be miffed about Bishop too, but I still wouldn’t call for a nerf. Just saying.

It would be nice to protect my particular interests at the expense of everyone else, but it just doesn’t feel like a fair move.

It may seem so, but it’s not. Any 5* will trigger the passive, nothing to do with Thorkoye. Even a mirror match is a disaster -  I have a champed Kitty, 370 Grocket and 300+ Bishop and that is possibly worse than any Thorkoye. 

And yes I have tried Surfer/Ock/BSSM...like anyone else who’s been around a while will know, these guys don’t have enough firepower to take down that team in enough time before you’re all dead.

The only way to sensibly deal with it is to remove base match damage from the passive trigger...feel like broken record but I’m just going to keep on banging the freaking drum on this.

jp1 said:

The rockett said:

jp1 said:

To be frank about it, this really seems like a Thorkoye problem. No free leaps to the top without using health packs. 

PVP is playable for me with my own Gritty/Bishop and Okoye/Sabretooth/Random third I bring. In fact I can usually place just as high or higher than before and definitely get further on progression. 

If Thorkoye was my go to Meta I’d probably be miffed about Bishop too, but I still wouldn’t call for a nerf. Just saying.

It would be nice to protect my particular interests at the expense of everyone else, but it just doesn’t feel like a fair move.

Jonny, I disagree.  I have used PHX/SS/DD/GG/Thanos/ BP/OML/Dr S/Loki/ BB/ Gambit (yes I never sold when he was nerfed), HE, Spidey, Arch, Cap (both), IM46, SL, Wasp (LOL), BW and BSSM in many different combos and it is still the same result.  You have to get rid of the strike tiles before you get 20,000 damage on 1 match 3.  While there is some combos that work, Bishop still gets triggered on ANY match 3 unless you are picking an off color match, but that isn’t gonna get him off the board for you to go after Gritty then.  

Fair enough. I still can’t support a nerf, but this thread has enough steam behind it that he will likely get nerfed...so there’s that.

We have been through all the nerfs and when they do it, it is a disaster.  I am against nerfs 99% of the time but something has to be done with him.   When you start a match, make 1 move and his passive goes off, there is not another character in the game that does that.  It doesn’t matter if you hit him first or don’t target him, his passive goes off.

 DPXF you have to take out first due to his passive but if you hit him it doesn’t go off.  If DPXF was the same way as Bishop, we all would have been asking for the same thing. If they would change Bishop’s passive to this verbiage, then he would be fine.  Just need to hit him first. 

HoundofShadow said:

The whales need to complain.

Just expect more safe (or boring) characters to be released. 

Once again you add absolutely nothing to the conversation. Why is a well-described problem by numerous players who are in the 5* tier, not just "whales" as you say, dismissed as complaining?

This forum needs a collapse quotes option....

Nah and not going to chase him, Feels like this is the devs way to try and suck HP out of the economy prior to anniversary vaults so people need to buy more HP for them. 

HoundofShadow said:

The whales need to complain.

Just expect safer (or more boring) characters to be released. 

What do you not get?  Currently in SIM I just did a match with my 514 Okoye, 503 Thor and 490 JJ against a 320 Bishop, 370 RG and 460 Kitty. 

My first turn:  OK full health at 97,000 JJ at 78,000 and Thor at 35,000

Match 4 red to remove 2 strike tiles that lead to a match 3 of blue.  

Bishop now has 10 blue before the first move. 

AI:
buff remanding 5 strike tiles 
Match 3 blue. 
Now 13 Blue. 

2nd move:
Match 3 yellow. No strike tiles removed.
Match TU tile.  

Bishop has 2,000 health  

gain 10 more blue for a total of 23 in 1 of their moves 

AI: 
buff 5 strike tiles 
stun party starts 

end of match:
JJ dead
OK dead 
Thor 3,000 health left 
win match 

do you truly think that this is reasonable? 

My take on bishop is this - Why get bigger 5* or even 5*?

bishop is all you need since it counters something as basic as 5* match damage. Try avoiding matching 5* tile damage the whole match!

Spend your money elsewhere instead of chasing 5* since a 4* now is better than a 5* and we should of course all be using that right?

The power set is counter intuitive to the very nature of the game. One aim out of many is to improve our rosters and they in turn earn some money from us doing it.

I am happy all I need is 13 4* covers and anybody wishing to hit me with a 5* gotta suck it.

if this does not describe broken, I rest my case.

and to people telling me Silver Surfer and Ock can be in a state of “cannot be stunned”, there are many powers which hit for very big damage in the color blue in the 4* Arena. Why should people who pay or work hard for their 5* be derailed by 1 faulty broken character?

I am not against punching up. You manage it, kudos to you. But don’t be unfair to the people who are working the game and paying for the lights to be kept on.

Howzabout if players offer the Devs a 1/250 odds chance of giving a good review?

Am I right? Your thoughts please.

What about a Gauntlet that just runs alongside whatever else they're running?

More non-time-based events, please. I'd like to not have to schedule my poops.