Daniel2121 said: Wasn't Azazel Nightcrawler's dad?
Scammy said: Would you consider Mystique's bisexuality and gender fluidity to be a retcon? Her creator is on record as having originally intended her and Destiny to be Nightcrawler's biological parents, but Marvel editorial at the time prevented that from becoming canon. So for decades she passed as straight. Marvel editorial did similar with Northstar.
Scammy said: Would you consider Mystique's bisexuality and gender fluidity to be a retcon? Her creator is on record as having originally intended her and Destiny to be Nightcrawler's biological parents, but Marvel editorial at the time prevented that from becoming canon. So for decades she passed as straight.
Scammy said: Daniel2121 said: Wasn't Azazel Nightcrawler's dad? Under current canon, yes. But that's my point. Originally it was Mystique who was intended to have fathered Nightcrawler. That never made it into the published comics, but it's a good indicator that at the beginning Mystique was both bisexual and gender fluid. So could it actually be considered a retcon when these aspects of her character first appeared in the comics many years later? And if none of her behavior prior to that contradicted her LGBT identity, can it even be considered a change to her character, or was she simply always these things?Bringing that back to Black Cat, if none of her earlier behavior contradicted her later-revealed bisexuality, then how could anyone say she had been closeted or was retconned? Best you could say was that it may not have been an aspect of her character that her creator had in mind, but then we'd be going into a whole "death of the author" philosophical discussion that I'd rather not get into.