Titanomachy - "Summon" objective not counting played creatures from hand consistently. [Fix in 4.1]

That node is a train wreck

It has nothing to with actually "summoning creatures" Some count, most don't. It has a lot more interactions with dealing with the graveyard but there is really no method to its madness, some cards count twice. I had one match that i had could count for every card counted, but there rest i still have no idea.

It's none of all this. It counts spells. Can't believe they messed up this objective, which has been used for ages.

Edit: I've tried casting creatures, summoning creatures, summoning tokens, casting Vanguards and I noticed it only counts spells 100% of the times.

After recording several videos and watching other videos and counting each card being played over the last couple days running in this event I firmly believe that @Opperstamper is correct about summoning/casting rare cards or lower. No mythic or MP is counting toward objective that we have been able to count for. Is it possible you are only running mythic creatures in your deck? It definitely is a mind blowing objective that really got messed up.

The evidence I've observed also seems to coincide with the functionality @Opperstamper and @DerekRogers mentioned. Thus far, I haven't been able to reproduce any suggestions from others about mythic and masterpiece cards believed to count towards the Commander objective, and I haven't independently observed any instances of that in the games I've tracked carefully on that node during this event.

As a summary of the hypotheses I've attempted to test thus far and evidence consistent with the conclusion that the objective is most likely based on rarity of cast or summoned cards up to this point:

Hypothesis 1: Enemy creatures count towards the objective

Contradictory evidence: Opposing Gaea's Revenge did not count

Hypothesis 2: All spells count towards the objective

Contradictory evidence: Stitch in Time, Finale of Revelation, and Electrodominance did not count

Hypothesis 3: All spells without stored mana count towards the objective

Contradictory evidence: Stitch in Time did not count

Hypothesis 4: Cards that put other cards in the graveyard count towards the objective

Contradictory evidence: Talent of the Telepath and Beacon Bolt counted, while Glimpse the Unthinkable did not count

Hypothesis 5: Spells that deal damage or destroy enemy creatures count towards the objective

Contradictory evidence: Destroying an enemy creature with Electrodominance did not count

Hypothesis 6: Nissa 4's tokens count towards the objective

Contradictory evidence: They appeared not to count in a recorded test game.

Current hypothesis: The objective functions as though the text were "Cast or summon 4 or more common, uncommon, or rare cards" (cards summoned without being cast appear to count based on the behavior of Blood Operative and Cauldron's Gift, while tokens appear not to count based on the behavior of Bolas 1's second ability, Nissa 4's first and third abilities, and Turn to Frog)

Contradictory evidence: None observed thus far

Consistent evidence:

1. In my 2nd game (no video or screenshots recorded), the cards that appeared to count each time they were cast included Discovery // Dispersal, Talent of the Telepath, Notion Rain, Beacon Bolt, and Mission Briefing, while the cards that appeared not to count included Finale of Revelation, Electrodominance, Stitch in Time, Thousand-Year Storm, zombie tokens generated by Bolas 1's second ability, the AI casting Gaea's Revenge, the AI casting Assure // Assemble, the AI casting Unexplained Disappearance, the AI casting Steam Vents, and the AI casting Stomping Grounds.
2. In two recorded games, the behavior of the objective counter appeared consistent with the hypothesis.

Edit: Removed video links to comply with forum rules; if anyone in the forum community is interested in examining those, message me privately or on other platforms for them

[MOD MIC ON] Due to the forum rule not allowing videos with player names in them, please feel free to send video links to me directly. I will collect and send them to @Oktagon_Support upon her return from the Carnival holiday, so she can get them to the devs quickly. Please only send YouTube links. Google Drive permissions have proven problematic in the past.

Also thank you! To everyone who is working hard to make sense of this extremely frustrating bug! You are an amazing community! [//MOD MIC]

From my experience it’s « cast anything that isn’t mythic ». I don’t have any MP in my deck to test those though.

Mburn7 said:

Oktagon_Support said:

Hello guys,

This issue with Commander objective is already confirmed and will be correct on the next time this event runs.

Thank you for the feedback and for your patience.

Just curious, did you guys figure out what the objective was actually checking?