starfall said: Tremayne said: @starfall - Isn’t it sufficient to exile the lands from your hand? So some card drawing should do the trick in order to have lands in hand. Or am I missing something? I guess paying three loyalty to send a land from your hand->exile->graveyard->hand and give it some mana isn't bad, but it's certainly not great. If you have a land in your start hand you want to put it on the board ASAP anyway to start gaining the benefit from it, not wait for 3 loyalty.(Also see comments here about overengineering)Dealing 3 damage to something is definitely terrible. Reminds me of Ugin. This is a PW design trend which needs to stop. Ugin is so much worse than Karn it's not even funny.
Tremayne said: @starfall - Isn’t it sufficient to exile the lands from your hand? So some card drawing should do the trick in order to have lands in hand. Or am I missing something?
starfall said: Mburn7 said:To be fair, I don't think Ugin's ability is supposed to kill anything (since you usually want to ping your own creatures for mana bonus reasons). I get what you're saying but it sounds like you're trying to defend how awful Ugin is?
Mburn7 said:To be fair, I don't think Ugin's ability is supposed to kill anything (since you usually want to ping your own creatures for mana bonus reasons).
starfall said: Mburn7 said:Of course, its yet to be seen if Wrenn and Six are even good at all in their specific niche. I certainly won't purchase them until people with more money crystals than I get a chance to play around with them and render a verdict. I started playing Vivien in the latest Bo4t specifically as a 'land matters' PW, on level 2-1, but Wrenn and Six certainly won't be replacing that niche.
Mburn7 said:Of course, its yet to be seen if Wrenn and Six are even good at all in their specific niche. I certainly won't purchase them until people with more money crystals than I get a chance to play around with them and render a verdict.
starfall said: Mburn7 said: starfall said: Mburn7 said:Of course, its yet to be seen if Wrenn and Six are even good at all in their specific niche. I certainly won't purchase them until people with more money crystals than I get a chance to play around with them and render a verdict. I started playing Vivien in the latest Bo4t specifically as a 'land matters' PW, on level 2-1, but Wrenn and Six certainly won't be replacing that niche. Hmm, I usually prefer Karn for gates decks in PvE because of how nicely his ult and mana gains work with it. I like Ob and Sarkhan for gate decks. Karn deck slots are too valuable to waste on PvE
Mburn7 said: starfall said: Mburn7 said:Of course, its yet to be seen if Wrenn and Six are even good at all in their specific niche. I certainly won't purchase them until people with more money crystals than I get a chance to play around with them and render a verdict. I started playing Vivien in the latest Bo4t specifically as a 'land matters' PW, on level 2-1, but Wrenn and Six certainly won't be replacing that niche. Hmm, I usually prefer Karn for gates decks in PvE because of how nicely his ult and mana gains work with it.