Hello all,
After what felt like a lifetime of saving tokens & command points, which in fact lasted around 9 months, I’ve finally made the courageous decision to spend it on the latest (Hela, Rescue & Storm) vault. Curious to find out how I did? Well, sit back and keep reading.
Since I’ve been a silent member of this community and forum for most of my days, a few words about my situation and style of playing. I’m at day 1732, I have a championed Phoenix and championed 5trange, no other 5* over 10 covers all sitting at lvl 255, around 2/3 of the 4* championed, and a slow but steady 3* and 2* farm (ánd 1* actually since an alliance member figured out the gained xp outweighs the lost iso).
I consistently play DDQ, generally reach 4000 points in the season, play Shield until completion, and get the occasional full progression in story events. Since I mostly stumble across Kitty & Grocket or Thorkoye, PVP has become a tedious activity in which the 575 10 CP reward is my only reasonable goal. I am aware that this in part can be blamed on unfavorable scaling due to the fact that I championed two 5* characters.
Nonetheless, with playing roughly 10hrs per week (sometimes less, sometimes a lot more) I have never been able, nor had the inclination, to really play competitively. This is also the reason why it took so long to build up a hoard large enough to even dare blowing it on the latest selection of characters.
I saved exactly 200 Legendary Tokens, 3778 CP (151 pulls), and ~5 million iso. I figured with a perfect distribution and 1/7 odds I’d need 273 pulls, my hoard allowing me a 30% ‘bad luck-margin’ (without taking possible bonus covers or additional earned CP and LT during the opening process into account). The simulations shared by kbmartin would suggest I’d have less than 50% chance of actually covering all three latest characters. But I was willing to accept that risk. This is how I did:
Hela: 4/4/5
Rescue: 4/4/1
Storm: 7/7/5
I received 9 4* bonus covers, and unfortunately zero 5* bonus covers.
I stopped pulling as soon as I opened my 13th Hela, which was at 279. The risk of blowing my hoard on additional duplicates didn’t outweigh the possibility of fully covering a character like Rescue.
This put me at a 14.69% 5* pullrate versus the 14.28% projection.
Let me share a couple of final thoughts about the whole process. Overall, I feel reasonably lucky. I’m very happy I was able to completely cover Hela and Storm, who have both (especially Hela) proven a delight to use in the past few days. Beforehand I considered the worst-case scenario of fully covering Rescue and not the others and I was very content to experience the opposite. I’d hoped for a bonus Daredevil or two, but I suppose I have 80 pulls left to invest in a future 5* introductory vault.
Although it took a long time to get here, I feel like my anticipation was met. I’ll start saving LT’s and CP again, but less rigidly than before. I am still missing a lot of 5* characters (for instance Okoye & Kitty) that were introduced in my period of drought, because of that strictness in saving everything. I’ll be opening a token here and there just to make sure I can add every character to my roster. In the end, collecting them all is one of the enjoyments I find in this game even after all these years.
Thanks for those that endured till the end. Would you have done something differently? How do you feel about 5torm so far?
ThaRoadWarrior said: 3/4ths of a year, a measurable fraction of a human lifespan, seems like an awfully long time to save up to cover 2/3 characters. Do you feel like it was worth it in the end?
wymtime said: <snip> If you can bring BLack Bolt with her you can easily get 10 charge tiles out to fire her black and use BB green... for and interesting combo you can go 4thor and IM40 in PVE as well to generate 10 charge tiles fairly easily. The big thing is you need someone who can also generate charge tiles to get her up to 10 to max damage her black
Sm0keyJ0e said: wymtime said: <snip> If you can bring BLack Bolt with her you can easily get 10 charge tiles out to fire her black and use BB green... for and interesting combo you can go 4thor and IM40 in PVE as well to generate 10 charge tiles fairly easily. The big thing is you need someone who can also generate charge tiles to get her up to 10 to max damage her black Pretty sure the max for her damage is 8 charged tiles. Anything more and she's destroying them for no reason.
MTP said: Pulled my hoard as well, and got everyone covered. Started with 313 pulls and probably pulled 360 total or so before i ran out. Its wild to think i spent 8 months saving tokens/cp to blow them all in an hour. Happy it worked out, sad to see it gone.
But it's true that this is a crazy amount of time for just two championed 5*. I suppose it underwrites one of the issues with this game: if you're not willing to spend money, and don't want to play more than an hour per day, getting into 5*-land takes way too long.
JSP869 said: I LOVE that clickbaity title "This semi-casual blew his hoard after 9 months...and you'll never believe what he got!" Congratz on the Champion Storm and Hela. I have a couple of covers for both, and just my 2-cents but they're definitely better 5s than Rescue. You definitely left the runt of the litter behind there If you're playing Story/PvE very casually and with more of a focus on PvP, you may want to consider trying to get into a T100 PvP Alliance.Using Line, you can easily hit 900+ in as little as 20 wins, and hit 1200+ in 25-30 wins. It does require coordination with others, but it's ridiculously easy. And if you can hit 900+ in each event, any T100 PvP Alliance would be happy to have you.
tchipley said: JSP869 said: I LOVE that clickbaity title "This semi-casual blew his hoard after 9 months...and you'll never believe what he got!" Congratz on the Champion Storm and Hela. I have a couple of covers for both, and just my 2-cents but they're definitely better 5s than Rescue. You definitely left the runt of the litter behind there If you're playing Story/PvE very casually and with more of a focus on PvP, you may want to consider trying to get into a T100 PvP Alliance.Using Line, you can easily hit 900+ in as little as 20 wins, and hit 1200+ in 25-30 wins. It does require coordination with others, but it's ridiculously easy. And if you can hit 900+ in each event, any T100 PvP Alliance would be happy to have you. Can you explain how it is easy to reach those numbers using Line? I have a hard time getting to 900 and have never reached anything beyond that.I've rostered all characters except Storm champed all 3* and have only five 4* unchamped. Champed 5 Thanos.
JSP869 said: tchipley said: JSP869 said: I LOVE that clickbaity title "This semi-casual blew his hoard after 9 months...and you'll never believe what he got!" Congratz on the Champion Storm and Hela. I have a couple of covers for both, and just my 2-cents but they're definitely better 5s than Rescue. You definitely left the runt of the litter behind there If you're playing Story/PvE very casually and with more of a focus on PvP, you may want to consider trying to get into a T100 PvP Alliance.Using Line, you can easily hit 900+ in as little as 20 wins, and hit 1200+ in 25-30 wins. It does require coordination with others, but it's ridiculously easy. And if you can hit 900+ in each event, any T100 PvP Alliance would be happy to have you. Can you explain how it is easy to reach those numbers using Line? I have a hard time getting to 900 and have never reached anything beyond that.I've rostered all characters except Storm champed all 3* and have only five 4* unchamped. Champed 5 Thanos. You join a Line room for PvP players, optimally, it's a room dedicated to the slice (time slot) you play in. In my case, it's all players who play in the 4th slice. We don't hit each other unless we're Shielded, so we're not taking points from one another, but everyone announces (or is supposed to) when they're Shield hopping. This gives you the opportunity to queue up players high above you worth 60+ points who are typically only fighting and unshielded for a minute or two. When you're ready to hit them, you announce that in the Line room, other players below you queue you as you play your matches, you reshield, announce in the Line room that you've reshielded, and those players that queued you now know they can hit you without taking points away from you. Typically, in the first part of an event, I'll play matches and float around 500-600 or so. If I drop too low, I'll retaliate against anyone who hits me, and when I'm ready to hop up to 900, I'll climb to 700-750 or so (usually a somewhat safe score midway through an event), queue up three of my Line mates who by now are typically worth 60-75 points each, hit all three quickly, then Shield at 900+. While Shielded, I use Line to queue up three more big targets, but at 900+ I'll typically only hit 2 at a time to avoid getting sniped. So I break, hit those two targets, then immediately reshield, and two 150-point hops is enough to hit 1200+Right now in War of the Realms I'm at 27 wins with 1018 points. While I could hit 1200+ with a 3x75 hit, it's dangerous to be out too long, so I'll probably do 1200 in two hops, being 30 wins.It requires coordination and playing nicely with others, but it is easy.
ThaRoadWarrior said: How much hp are you spending on shields per event? Are you spending $$ on that, or are you earning what you need by playing this way? Just curious what the competitive PVP ecosystem looks like, since it feels like it would be pretty resource intensive to "shield hop"
jp1 said: JSP869 said: tchipley said: JSP869 said: I LOVE that clickbaity title "This semi-casual blew his hoard after 9 months...and you'll never believe what he got!" Congratz on the Champion Storm and Hela. I have a couple of covers for both, and just my 2-cents but they're definitely better 5s than Rescue. You definitely left the runt of the litter behind there If you're playing Story/PvE very casually and with more of a focus on PvP, you may want to consider trying to get into a T100 PvP Alliance.Using Line, you can easily hit 900+ in as little as 20 wins, and hit 1200+ in 25-30 wins. It does require coordination with others, but it's ridiculously easy. And if you can hit 900+ in each event, any T100 PvP Alliance would be happy to have you. Can you explain how it is easy to reach those numbers using Line? I have a hard time getting to 900 and have never reached anything beyond that.I've rostered all characters except Storm champed all 3* and have only five 4* unchamped. Champed 5 Thanos. You join a Line room for PvP players, optimally, it's a room dedicated to the slice (time slot) you play in. In my case, it's all players who play in the 4th slice. We don't hit each other unless we're Shielded, so we're not taking points from one another, but everyone announces (or is supposed to) when they're Shield hopping. This gives you the opportunity to queue up players high above you worth 60+ points who are typically only fighting and unshielded for a minute or two. When you're ready to hit them, you announce that in the Line room, other players below you queue you as you play your matches, you reshield, announce in the Line room that you've reshielded, and those players that queued you now know they can hit you without taking points away from you. Typically, in the first part of an event, I'll play matches and float around 500-600 or so. If I drop too low, I'll retaliate against anyone who hits me, and when I'm ready to hop up to 900, I'll climb to 700-750 or so (usually a somewhat safe score midway through an event), queue up three of my Line mates who by now are typically worth 60-75 points each, hit all three quickly, then Shield at 900+. While Shielded, I use Line to queue up three more big targets, but at 900+ I'll typically only hit 2 at a time to avoid getting sniped. So I break, hit those two targets, then immediately reshield, and two 150-point hops is enough to hit 1200+Right now in War of the Realms I'm at 27 wins with 1018 points. While I could hit 1200+ with a 3x75 hit, it's dangerous to be out too long, so I'll probably do 1200 in two hops, being 30 wins.It requires coordination and playing nicely with others, but it is easy. Doesn’t sound like much fun. To each their own, but I can’t imagine having to coordinate each and every match I play with the entire player base in my slice. Sounds like a real PITA. I’ll just have to settle for my usual 575 I guess. Thanks for taking the time to explain the process though, for those interested in trying it out.