AlexR said: Okay, I drew my last Bl4de today, making him champable. Switching my BH to Bishop, since you apparently need Bishop in the current meta really badly. It's gonna be a while until my 1/1/1 Bishop is up to standards, but he should make some progress via BHs when I pull for Hela next week.
SymmeTrey said: OP doesn't have the characters to do this, but, Dazzler/Rocket/Nico would be my recommended team to hit Bishop/Gritty in 4* land.Try to get Dazzler in front by making a match, make sure to target Bishop, and when they hit you, Dazzler's stuns Bishop and removes several enemy strikes. Nico buffs your own tiles like a poor man's Kitty and can even true heal herself.Nico is nice in this combo because she will keep your initial damage low enough to not trigger Bishop for a couple of turns (as opposed to 5-star match damage from Kitty), but, once Nico gets a head of steam, the strikes still get pretty beefy. I relied on her heavily in 4-star land.You can still run Kitty/Rocket/Dazzler, but, it's harder to get Dazzler in front as Dazzler will likely only tank black with Kitty in the mix and Kitty's match damage might trigger Bishop earlier. For 5-star players, Gritty/Dazzler might be viable, but, for 4-star I would use Nico instead.
KGB said: AlexR said: Okay, I drew my last Bl4de today, making him champable. Switching my BH to Bishop, since you apparently need Bishop in the current meta really badly. It's gonna be a while until my 1/1/1 Bishop is up to standards, but he should make some progress via BHs when I pull for Hela next week. You don't need Bishop for climbing. You just need him as a defensive deterrent. I finished Shield Sim on Sunday and saw the wall of Bishop/Gritty teams starting around 1800 like you did.I have a deeper roster so I used Xpool/Peggy/Bishop to wreck those teams (Peggy stuns enemy Bishop/Kitty on turn 2 or 3) and GrockMorDusa teams for the last 200 points.Once I hit 2000 for the Magik cover I stopped and went unshielded for the last 12 hours of the season. In that time I racked up 6 defensive wins and only 5 losses (for 80 points total). So Bishop is a highly effective deterrent on defense but he's not great for climbing (I used GrockMorDusa to go from 0-1800 without using a single health pack and only 25 fights).KGB
AlexR said: SymmeTrey said: OP doesn't have the characters to do this, but, Dazzler/Rocket/Nico would be my recommended team to hit Bishop/Gritty in 4* land.Try to get Dazzler in front by making a match, make sure to target Bishop, and when they hit you, Dazzler's stuns Bishop and removes several enemy strikes. Nico buffs your own tiles like a poor man's Kitty and can even true heal herself.Nico is nice in this combo because she will keep your initial damage low enough to not trigger Bishop for a couple of turns (as opposed to 5-star match damage from Kitty), but, once Nico gets a head of steam, the strikes still get pretty beefy. I relied on her heavily in 4-star land.You can still run Kitty/Rocket/Dazzler, but, it's harder to get Dazzler in front as Dazzler will likely only tank black with Kitty in the mix and Kitty's match damage might trigger Bishop earlier. For 5-star players, Gritty/Dazzler might be viable, but, for 4-star I would use Nico instead. Nice, I like that! And yeah, sadly don't have her champed. Then again, since it sounds like Dazzler is mainly there for tile removal & stun, I'll at least try if it works with my half-covered Dazzler. KGB said: AlexR said: Okay, I drew my last Bl4de today, making him champable. Switching my BH to Bishop, since you apparently need Bishop in the current meta really badly. It's gonna be a while until my 1/1/1 Bishop is up to standards, but he should make some progress via BHs when I pull for Hela next week. You don't need Bishop for climbing. You just need him as a defensive deterrent. I finished Shield Sim on Sunday and saw the wall of Bishop/Gritty teams starting around 1800 like you did.I have a deeper roster so I used Xpool/Peggy/Bishop to wreck those teams (Peggy stuns enemy Bishop/Kitty on turn 2 or 3) and GrockMorDusa teams for the last 200 points.Once I hit 2000 for the Magik cover I stopped and went unshielded for the last 12 hours of the season. In that time I racked up 6 defensive wins and only 5 losses (for 80 points total). So Bishop is a highly effective deterrent on defense but he's not great for climbing (I used GrockMorDusa to go from 0-1800 without using a single health pack and only 25 fights).KGB And this, the bolded part, is the crux of it. The deterrent Bishop-Gritty wall at 1800. I have zero problems climbing up to that point (and yeah, sure don't need Bishop for that), but I need to deal with this Bishop-Gritty wall for the last 200 pts somehow. That is the problem. I need a reliable answer to that. And the most common answer I see seems to be "just bring your own Bishop".
tiomono said:Any time a character or combo dominates it gets frustrating. That being said the current dominating teams can all be beat by multiple options. Which actually is good for the game. You do not need bishop to beat bishop. In the right team your own bishop can make it easier, but there are other options.
tiomono said: I would try medusa, gamora, me hulk. Hulk may clear a few tiles on his initial move. Prioritize blue so you can get gamora stun train rolling. Any strikes you can clear while chasing blue can help speed you up. Stun kitty to stop the buffs. If medusa damage gets high enough to trigger bishop stun him.You want max points in hulks shuffle and gamora stun (so she stuns 2 enemies). And start with blue boosts. Hopefully with both medusa and gamora tossing out specials you can stay ahead of kitty purple.
ThaRoadWarrior said: As an alternative to Rocket/Dazzler, you could also try Valkyrie/Dazzler, maybe with Medusa in that third spot. Dazzler eats a hit, valkyrie makes strikes, dazzler does the thing, and anybody that matches the free friendly specials gives you back health via medusa. And they keep coming as long as there are yellows on the board and someone is tanking for valkyrie (given OPs roster that should be everyone) as opposed to the fixed-sum strikes you get out of 4ocket.
Ares76 said: Tried an new team for the first time and won with it. And that is what matters against Bishop/Gritty-teams, ain't it?