AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier.
NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed.
Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed.
Polares said: She is fine, Rocket is the one that is broken, and the one that should be fixed AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier. But here lies the problem as not every one has a Gritty team, so this is giving an unfair advantage to those who have it, as the time to complete the nodes is basically the most important thing in PvE Said that, I doubt they will nerf either of them
KGB said: tiomono said: Kitty in a bubble does not need nerfed. Rocket is the issue in the combo. I disagree with that unless you mean just in 5* PvP/MMR.I can assure you her passive is being abused in 3* PvP. This week 3* Daken and Blade are boosted and in 4* PvP I am seeing a *ton* of Kitty/Daken or Kitty/Blade teams (since they are boosted). Easy pickings for me in 4*PvP/MMR land with a champed Kraven (also boosted this week) but I imagine those combo's are every bit the terror in 3* PvP that Kitty/Grocket is in 5* PvP.As I mentioned above, change her passive to boost 4* and below specials at a reduced rate (33%) and you solve the problem in every tier without needing to nerf any other tiers characters while leaving her viable for future 5* teammates. KGB
tiomono said: Kitty in a bubble does not need nerfed. Rocket is the issue in the combo.
BigSoftieFF said: No nerf required at all. Thorkoye handles them 9/10 times if not more. I climbed the whole way in the Thor pvp with Okoye/XFDP and it may have actually been easier 😝.Yes you can wipe against it but......ok?
NotBAMF said: Polares said: She is fine, Rocket is the one that is broken, and the one that should be fixed AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier. But here lies the problem as not every one has a Gritty team, so this is giving an unfair advantage to those who have it, as the time to complete the nodes is basically the most important thing in PvE Said that, I doubt they will nerf either of them Fair enough, but the counter to that is that Grocket (with or without Gritty) allows 4* players to at least compete with 5* players somewhat for speed. Nerfing Grocket would mean no one but 5* players would have ANY shot at placement. Nerfing Grocket would just lock MORE players out of having any chance; not open it up for everyone.
tiomono said: Polares said: She is fine, Rocket is the one that is broken, and the one that should be fixed AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier. But here lies the problem as not every one has a Gritty team, so this is giving an unfair advantage to those who have it, as the time to complete the nodes is basically the most important thing in PvE Said that, I doubt they will nerf either of them Thanos is still king of story mode. Gritty is fast but not thanos fast.
Quebbster said: tiomono said: Polares said: She is fine, Rocket is the one that is broken, and the one that should be fixed AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier. But here lies the problem as not every one has a Gritty team, so this is giving an unfair advantage to those who have it, as the time to complete the nodes is basically the most important thing in PvE Said that, I doubt they will nerf either of them Thanos is still king of story mode. Gritty is fast but not thanos fast. Fortunately story mode doesn't force you to choose between peanut butter and jelly outside of essential nodes.
tiomono said: Quebbster said: tiomono said: Polares said: She is fine, Rocket is the one that is broken, and the one that should be fixed AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier. But here lies the problem as not every one has a Gritty team, so this is giving an unfair advantage to those who have it, as the time to complete the nodes is basically the most important thing in PvE Said that, I doubt they will nerf either of them Thanos is still king of story mode. Gritty is fast but not thanos fast. Fortunately story mode doesn't force you to choose between peanut butter and jelly outside of essential nodes. Now I just want a pb and j. Wouldnt it still be faster though to use thanos grocket and another guardian member. You should down your first opponent pretty quickly without the need for a kitty to be there buffing the strikes. I'm not positive though I have not really "run the numbers".
jtsings said: Then the only complaint I have about Kitty is her purple damage. Doesn't she deal damage to SW, LC3, IF3 every turn if her purple is at 5 covers? If that's the case maybe they could make her Purple be a 2 turn countdown at 5 covers or significantly reduce the damage she gives when no tiles are on the board.
Quebbster said: tiomono said: Quebbster said: tiomono said: Polares said: She is fine, Rocket is the one that is broken, and the one that should be fixed AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier. But here lies the problem as not every one has a Gritty team, so this is giving an unfair advantage to those who have it, as the time to complete the nodes is basically the most important thing in PvE Said that, I doubt they will nerf either of them Thanos is still king of story mode. Gritty is fast but not thanos fast. Fortunately story mode doesn't force you to choose between peanut butter and jelly outside of essential nodes. Now I just want a pb and j. Wouldnt it still be faster though to use thanos grocket and another guardian member. You should down your first opponent pretty quickly without the need for a kitty to be there buffing the strikes. I'm not positive though I have not really "run the numbers". Looking at my own roster, almost certainly not. Grocket's strike tiles go from strength 261 to 545 (they are level 364 so almost done), so that's an increase of 284 Points per tile or 1988 Points in total. Kitty (level 470) buffs five tiles by 738 Points, or 3692 Points in total, so even the first turn boost is almost twice what Another Guardian would bring. And then she keeps buffing. The only scenario where Another Guardian would be preferable is if you can consistently score a turn 1 KO with the Guardian but not with Kitty.
CT1888 said: Quebbster said: tiomono said: Quebbster said: tiomono said: Polares said: She is fine, Rocket is the one that is broken, and the one that should be fixed AlexR said: NotBAMF said: Kitty (with Grocket) has made PVE somewhat less tedious and annoying than it was before her, so just for the sake of PVE, I hope she never gets nerfed. This. Gritty's a godsend for PvE. My clears have never been quicker! And PvE is so grindy that anything that speeds it up is much appreciated. As a 4* player with very little effective ways of dealing with it, I do auto-skip Gritty in Sim as much as possible though. (And Sim is 95% Gritty, it's very annoying.) Rather than nerfing Kitty or GRocket (who by themselves each aren't a problem and together improve PvE clearing speed), my personal wish would be that they'd buff Kraven with anti-Kitty properties. Countering meta GRocket teams is literally all he exists for. (And he's normally good at that too, except Kitty out-buffs his debuffs so he's not a good Gritty counter. Sadly, he's literally my best bet.) Wouldn't help the 5* side any, admittedly, but sure would make my 4* life easier. But here lies the problem as not every one has a Gritty team, so this is giving an unfair advantage to those who have it, as the time to complete the nodes is basically the most important thing in PvE Said that, I doubt they will nerf either of them Thanos is still king of story mode. Gritty is fast but not thanos fast. Fortunately story mode doesn't force you to choose between peanut butter and jelly outside of essential nodes. Now I just want a pb and j. Wouldnt it still be faster though to use thanos grocket and another guardian member. You should down your first opponent pretty quickly without the need for a kitty to be there buffing the strikes. I'm not positive though I have not really "run the numbers". Looking at my own roster, almost certainly not. Grocket's strike tiles go from strength 261 to 545 (they are level 364 so almost done), so that's an increase of 284 Points per tile or 1988 Points in total. Kitty (level 470) buffs five tiles by 738 Points, or 3692 Points in total, so even the first turn boost is almost twice what Another Guardian would bring. And then she keeps buffing. The only scenario where Another Guardian would be preferable is if you can consistently score a turn 1 KO with the Guardian but not with Kitty. If you are playing Scl7 or 8, first turn wins are very common with Thanos/Grocket/5*lord. Rarely will i go past turn 2.
Quebbster said: CT1888 said: If you are playing Scl7 or 8, first turn wins are very common with Thanos/Grocket/5*lord. Rarely will i go past turn 2. Well then, perhaps my CL 9 bias is showing. Can't imagine giving up such a good source of Legendary tokens... I'm a progression only kind of guy, and all about minimising the time sink nature of pve
Quebbster said: CT1888 said: If you are playing Scl7 or 8, first turn wins are very common with Thanos/Grocket/5*lord. Rarely will i go past turn 2. Well then, perhaps my CL 9 bias is showing. Can't imagine giving up such a good source of Legendary tokens...
CT1888 said: If you are playing Scl7 or 8, first turn wins are very common with Thanos/Grocket/5*lord. Rarely will i go past turn 2.