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LT pull strategy...
GrimSkald
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This may belong better in "tips and advice," but I kind of want to hear what other people think more than I want to just "dispense wisdom." I'm curious as to what your "pull strategy" is for CP and actual Legendary Tokens. Do you use CP on Classics and pull LTs? Do you indulge in the 5* intro tokens? How about the special event ones like "Fan Favorites?" What's your strategy?
In my mind, 5* Players should probably "ride the wave of latest" if they want to fully cover each character as they come. This is actually what I do. By that I mean pull Latest until you no longer want to add levels to the 5* who's going to be phased out next, then hoard until the next release. For example, I'm hoarding now since Wasp is very meh and mine is 459. When Cable goes in, I'll pull until I get at least one of him, then decide just how high I want my Loki (he's currently 455,) then hoard again. Anyway, hoarding two weeks prior to the next release is in tokens is a good way to make sure you have them for their first featured event. Maybe dip into Classics if you're happy with the levels on the current crop. Dip into Event Tokens (new release or special event,) if you really want covers for that crop of 5*s - that should generally be when you either want to help finish them or else add a few levels to characters you use all the time (in my case, Thor, Okoye, JJ.)
The alternative for a 5* player to riding the Latest Wave would be pretty simple - use CP on Classics and open Tokens. I would tend to think you'll end up not fully covering characters before they leave Latest, but if you don't care then this presents an alternative that gets you, in the end, 25% more 4* and 5* covers. You may also end up not having a certain 5* before they're featured in PVE, though that can probably be avoided by hoarding for a week or two before the tokens flip and using CP for Latest until you get the new 5*.
I transitioned from 4* to 5* with a much smaller pool, but I imagine the best strategy for a non 5* player is to pull Classics with CP and Latest from tokens until you're ready to transition to the 5* tier, then hoard until there's a 5* worth transitioning is in the crop. You'll probably end up with a lot of 5* with 5-7 covers, but that's not inherently a problem and is good for PVE.
So anyway, what do you do?
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This strategy has allowed me to champ every single 5* since adopting this strategy and fairly quickly cover the newer 4s after setting them to my only BH at the start of a season.
- Right before Daredevil was set to leave Latests (Christmas Eve actually) I decided to finally crack my hoard for him. I had no interest in ever transitioning, but wanted a fully covered DD because he's my favorite superhero and figured at worst I could soft-cap him and stay in the 4* tier.
I'm never spending CP on special stores ever again, it's too much of a gamble and they're not open long enough to beat the odds. I can wait 2 weeks for the new 5* to enter Latest tokens. Might miss out on one or two 5* essentials nodes in PVE but whatever.
I pull from Classics sometimes, I still have older 5*'s close to being covered (9+ covers) and sometimes you luck out, sometimes you dont. With saved covers its a viable and cheaper option sometimes. Doesnt hurt to have more of the Classic 5*'s champed as well, its probably not what you wanted but champ rewards are very good for 5*'s.
My reasoning for this is twofold:
1. My ultimate goal is to champ everyone. I'll never attain that riding the latest wave, even with feeders. I have a few characters who are sub 7 covers and a feeder won't be a enough to finish them (I think I actually have 2 with only a single cover).
2. Getting 20% more pulls. Even when I'm getting more 4*s or champ levels for already champed 5*s those still give resources that lead to more pulls LTs, CP, etc. and those rewards get better at higher levels. Until I get to the point where I'm the second go round with many/most 4*s I feel I'll get the most total covers by going for classics.
Also doing it this way it doesn't seem like I'm that likely to miss champing the new ones either. This is obviously skewed somewhat by pulling for Okoye, but here are the 5*s status that came out since I started this:
Okoye 5/4/4 L455
Wasp 5/2/3 (10 covers)
Loki 4/3/3 (10 covers)
Kitty 2/2/2 (6 covers)
Cable 0/0/0
Wasp I intentionally chose to start hoarding to let feeders eventually finish her off. When there are bad characters I will choose to do that but try to at least get them to feeder level.
I don't have an exact count of how many 5*s I've champed from classics but I'm pretty sure it's 3, plus most have gone up at least 1 closer to champing.
Unfortunately I've conditioned myself to dislike hoarding so much that I struggle to do it for even 2 weeks, despite the fact that I know hoarding after Okoye left would have been better for me, given that I had already champed Wasp. The Fan Favourite store was great though, allowing me to get some useful covers without hoarding and without risking a Wasp cover.
Classics still seem a waste, and as a non hoarder 3 day release stores are pointless.
This means that in general I'm looking at latests as the way to improve my roster. What I'm finding lately is that the newer characters haven't move the needle. This is leading to a vicious cycle where I simply cannot justify unleashing the hoard, yet hoarding with no end in sight is not fun. I even opened some classics last week purely out of boredom.
The last couple of months have been really bad for me getting 5* covers from both Latest and Classics though. I think I went through a drought of about 60 Classic pulls between 5* covers and Wasp has only 6 covers and Loki 3 and Kitty 2.
I am close on Okoye and Lumbercap, each has 12 covers with one saved.
The nice thing about Classics is the 20 cp price is cheap and I'm getting so many 4* champ levels and covering the new characters pretty quickly.
I'm one of those people who eventually want everyone champed even if they suck.
LT/Latest mostly works like this:
1) Wait for new 5 to enter LT's.
2) Pull LT's until the oldest 5 is complete (13 covers).
3) Resume hoarding LT's until the next 5 enters.
This has changed a bit with the death of covers swaps and the introduction of feeders to newer 5's, but it still works along similar lines. I've stopped pulling for Hope even though she isn't actually finished, for example, because she's 5/3/3 and can be completed by Ant-man. I won't continue pulling for Loki either, since he's in a similar state - 2/5/4 and can be completed by MEH. I'll resume when Kitty is the oldest 5.
It's worked well for someone like me that wants to champ all characters as a minimum, but doesn't really care how high they get past that point.
The CP side has worked well for me as well. I've still completed several Classic 5's that weren't already complete when I started this. I'm down to just the aforementioned Star-lord (1/5/5) and Ock (4/4/4) as the only Classics that aren't finished. My other 5's reside between 450 and 475 and get levels regularly. My 4's also show my strategy in action as I have 5 of them max-champed and duplicated despite not being a whale. I have another 8 of them in the home stretch (360+).
I think LT/CP pull strategy is all about the individual. I've long went against common thought on this topic. It's worked for me and what I want to accomplish, but it wouldn't work for someone that wants the latest/greatest 5 at as high a level as possible (as an example). Different strokes and all that.
Currently however I want kitty so I am throwing everything I have at latests pulling as i go. Once she is max covered i will go back to dilution land of classics.