First masterpieces

Marrhault
Marrhault Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
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So used my unobtainium and got avatar of woe.  Wasn't excited at all haha.  Not sure how to use this card or does it go to the scrapper?  Also got Armageddon ugh.  Tried both not impressed with either. /Cry off
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  • wickedwitch74
    wickedwitch74 Posts: 267 Mover and Shaker
    Some of these Masterpieces are more Mouse-terpieces.

    I pulled an Aggravated Assault last night from a AKH pack. Not bad, but meh...
  • morgue427
    morgue427 Posts: 783 Critical Contributor
    got avatar of woe also. not sure if is a card or a math equation to figure out damage
  • TheDragonHermit
    TheDragonHermit Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
    I could see Avatar of Woe working well in combination with Knightly Valor, Brawler Plate, and something that pumps out token creatures regularly in a Sorin deck (for black/white). The combination of vigilance and berserker means you can kill a lot of tokens off quickly and get the AoW out with it's ability.
  • TheDragonHermit
    TheDragonHermit Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
    Quick thought on Armageddon, maybe for use against an Energize or Devoid deck, or as a board wipe if there is no good gem bonuses available for you. A bit specialized like that though, any better ideas?
  • morgue427
    morgue427 Posts: 783 Critical Contributor
    my mistake got torment of hailfire.
    "opponent takes x damage, where x is equal to the number of creatures your opponent controls multiplied by3 plus the number the number of supports your opponent controls times 2 plus the number of cards in your opponents hand."
    wow and you thought algebra would never be used after school
    my only guess is against a cycling deck that is in the process of beating you horribly but thats about it.
    any ideas?
  • babar3355
    babar3355 Posts: 1,128 Chairperson of the Boards

    I was thinking run 1 creature Ob with tons of removal, lost legacy, and avatar.  keep killing enemy creatures to reduce his cost.  Also, if you have 2 in hand you get the benefit twice per kill. 

    Another option would be in L3, where you can kill your own creatures and bring them back as zombies.  If you do it with something with an ETB or recursion them you could get some good synergy.  Scrapheap, Heart of Kiran, etc.

    I could also see killing a fleshbag marauder with L3's first, he comes back and kills an enemy creature for one of yours.  3 creatures dead in 1 loyalty ability adding 18 mana to all your avatars.

    Anyway, at first I didn't like Avatar, but I now think he is one of the strongest creatures in the block and seems like a really fun combo piece.

  • TheDragonHermit
    TheDragonHermit Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
    morgue427 said:
    my mistake got torment of hailfire.
    "opponent takes x damage, where x is equal to the number of creatures your opponent controls multiplied by3 plus the number the number of supports your opponent controls times 2 plus the number of cards in your opponents hand."
    wow and you thought algebra would never be used after school
    my only guess is against a cycling deck that is in the process of beating you horribly but thats about it.
    any ideas?
    Sounds like a Dovin or Tezzeret killer.
  • shteev
    shteev Posts: 2,031 Chairperson of the Boards
    My first masterpiece was Counterspell.

    Pity me.
  • SirFitzalot
    SirFitzalot Posts: 7 Just Dropped In
    First was wrath of god. Lucky lucky pack.

    while wait for my account to be found I made a toy around one. 2 new HOU packs both had torment of hailfire. Really odd spell 
  • Marrhault
    Marrhault Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
    babar3355 said:

    I was thinking run 1 creature Ob with tons of removal, lost legacy, and avatar.  keep killing enemy creatures to reduce his cost.  Also, if you have 2 in hand you get the benefit twice per kill. 

    Another option would be in L3, where you can kill your own creatures and bring them back as zombies.  If you do it with something with an ETB or recursion them you could get some good synergy.  Scrapheap, Heart of Kiran, etc.

    I could also see killing a fleshbag marauder with L3's first, he comes back and kills an enemy creature for one of yours.  3 creatures dead in 1 loyalty ability adding 18 mana to all your avatars.

    Anyway, at first I didn't like Avatar, but I now think he is one of the strongest creatures in the block and seems like a really fun combo piece.

    This was where i was leaning also.  My only decision is I have very low Mana runes.  I am just about at what I need to level a mono pw from 0-60.  My ob nix is lvl 1 so I can either wait for Lil 3 in shop and go for her or level ob nix now lol.  My current black PW is Lil 1 so either are going to be a good upgrade
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    TheDragonHermit said:
    I could see Avatar of Woe working well in combination with Knightly Valor, Brawler Plate, and something that pumps out token creatures regularly in a Sorin deck (for black/white). The combination of vigilance and berserker means you can kill a lot of tokens off quickly and get the AoW out with it's ability.
    This doesn't work actually.  Token creatures do not go into the graveyard like normal creatures, they get exiled.

    I find that running Avatar of Woe in a discard themed deck would work better as you will guarantee cards going into the graveyard!
  • TheDragonHermit
    TheDragonHermit Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
    edited July 2017
    HomeRn said:
    TheDragonHermit said:
    I could see Avatar of Woe working well in combination with Knightly Valor, Brawler Plate, and something that pumps out token creatures regularly in a Sorin deck (for black/white). The combination of vigilance and berserker means you can kill a lot of tokens off quickly and get the AoW out with it's ability.
    This doesn't work actually.  Token creatures do not go into the graveyard like normal creatures, they get exiled.

    I find that running Avatar of Woe in a discard themed deck would work better as you will guarantee cards going into the graveyard!
    Avatar of Woe just says when a creature dies, not when a creature is sent to the graveyard, I think you are thinking about the Lord of Extinction. That has all sorts of amusing combo potential. I am still thinking about what to go with though.
  • Stormbringer0
    Stormbringer0 Posts: 190 Tile Toppler
    Everyone's complaining about Masterpiece and I've got none at all, trolololo
  • HomeRn
    HomeRn Posts: 330 Mover and Shaker
    TheDragonHermit said:
    HomeRn said:
    TheDragonHermit said:
    I could see Avatar of Woe working well in combination with Knightly Valor, Brawler Plate, and something that pumps out token creatures regularly in a Sorin deck (for black/white). The combination of vigilance and berserker means you can kill a lot of tokens off quickly and get the AoW out with it's ability.
    This doesn't work actually.  Token creatures do not go into the graveyard like normal creatures, they get exiled.

    I find that running Avatar of Woe in a discard themed deck would work better as you will guarantee cards going into the graveyard!
    Avatar of Woe just says when a creature dies, not when a creature is sent to the graveyard, I think you are thinking about the Lord of Extinction. That has all sorts of amusing combo potential. I am still thinking about what to go with though.
    Oops!  You're right, I'm getting my masterpieces crossed up.
  • Marrhault
    Marrhault Posts: 23 Just Dropped In
    Anyone have L3?  She's in the upcoming PW shop now so need to decide if I want to wait for her or level my Ob Nix
  • TheDragonHermit
    TheDragonHermit Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
    I could see Day's Undoing or Fumigate as good setups for Lord of Extinction, destroy everything then unleash a huge Lord
  • Ohboy
    Ohboy Posts: 1,766 Chairperson of the Boards
    Days undoing destroys nothing. 

    Commons misconception. 
  • TheDragonHermit
    TheDragonHermit Posts: 465 Mover and Shaker
    edited July 2017
    It still puts things in the graveyard right?
  • Laeuftbeidir
    Laeuftbeidir Posts: 1,841 Chairperson of the Boards
    it shuffles the cards back into the library

  • Steeme
    Steeme Posts: 784 Critical Contributor
    Marrhault said:
    Anyone have L3?  She's in the upcoming PW shop now so need to decide if I want to wait for her or level my Ob Nix


    Thanks to L3 I got a perfect score in the last Trial of Ambition.  Absolutely wonderful for "lose X or more creature" objectives.

    You can literally synergize her with any creature that has a strong ETB mechanic, and she works well with vehicles since the Crew mechanic also triggers with her first ability.

    Takes some getting used to since you get no mana from regular White swaps.  You don't get any from Green until you level her up.

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