Foxblade wrote: Does anyone run Lightning Runner in their deck? I'm excited to buy Nahiri tomorrow and have a First/Double Strike deck lined up. I've got Aerial Modification in there due to efficiency on double strikers, option to trigger Lone Rider, and to let powered up strikers kill flyers. Thoughts?
Avacyn wrote: Lightning runner has become one of my favorite creature to add in red decks. he pairs well with big hitters too because of his overload 1. if you can get a cascade going it like using nahiri's 3rd ability with runner. For a cheap beat down deck I run him with Solemn recruit, Kari Zev and lone rider. and grow them with oath of Ajani and Nahiri's first ability. once they get big enough I would give them berserker to act as removal with giant spectacle. But I enjoy running him most in my Saheeli deck along with Aehertide whale. put artistry on runner after you populate the board with energy and uncaged fury on whale. cascade overload as much as you can and win.
hawkyh1 wrote: I thought base power on runner meant excluding buffs such as saheeli's artistry? HH
Tilwin90 wrote: It's a fine card. There are three reasons why I personally wouldn't run it in my Nahiri deck: - I don't run much energy with Nahiri, so the 4 energy it generates to get the overload seems a bit slow. In a more energy-centric deck it seems like a better card. - I run deploy the gatewatch, and this is not necessarily a creature I am excited to deploy. I'd rather have something bigger like Gisela, Olivia, Skysovereign or Decimator (I only have Gisela from these, but you get my point) - It does not synergize with the ultimate as good as beefier creatures. My best combo here is a transformed Geier Reach Bandit pumped by ultimate (that's 12x5=60 power minimum) + grant double strike with Uncaged Fury. 120 damage in a turn, bam! But give it a shot and see how it works with your Nahiri deck.
Foxblade wrote: Tilwin90 wrote: It's a fine card. There are three reasons why I personally wouldn't run it in my Nahiri deck: - I don't run much energy with Nahiri, so the 4 energy it generates to get the overload seems a bit slow. In a more energy-centric deck it seems like a better card. - I run deploy the gatewatch, and this is not necessarily a creature I am excited to deploy. I'd rather have something bigger like Gisela, Olivia, Skysovereign or Decimator (I only have Gisela from these, but you get my point) - It does not synergize with the ultimate as good as beefier creatures. My best combo here is a transformed Geier Reach Bandit pumped by ultimate (that's 12x5=60 power minimum) + grant double strike with Uncaged Fury. 120 damage in a turn, bam! But give it a shot and see how it works with your Nahiri deck. Thanks for the input. I don't have Deploy the Gatewatch so that's probably a huge difference in approaches. I've had a chance to play with Lightning Runner and it works well. I find the energy it generates is actually quite a lot compared to other cards (ignoring PW abilities). 4 per turn adds up fast and it's not uncommon to hit one most turns after he's out. I run Gisela, Metalwork Colossus, and Decimator so reinforcing those is a big return. The biggest risk with Lightning Runner is the low toughness. He's very susceptible to things like red damage cards and Chandra's abilities. Then again he's cheap to get back out.
Avacyn said: Foxblade wrote: Does anyone run Lightning Runner in their deck? I'm excited to buy Nahiri tomorrow and have a First/Double Strike deck lined up. I've got Aerial Modification in there due to efficiency on double strikers, option to trigger Lone Rider, and to let powered up strikers kill flyers. Thoughts? Lightning runner has become one of my favorite creature to add in red decks. he pairs well with big hitters too because of his overload 1. if you can get a cascade going it like using nahiri's 3rd ability with runner. For a cheap beat down deck I run him with Solemn recruit, Kari Zev and lone rider. and grow them with oath of Ajani and Nahiri's first ability. once they get big enough I would give them berserker to act as removal with giant spectacle. But I enjoy running him most in my Saheeli deck along with Aehertide whale. put artistry on runner after you populate the board with energy and uncaged fury on whale. cascade overload as much as you can and win.
@Gunmix25Our deck is very similar indeed. This is how I run mine.
With this deck, I try to have my double strikers in the first slot. that way they gain twice the value from the light/shadow sword. I dropped Unlicensed Disintegration after having it always in my hand with nothing to remove. because Giant Spectacle on Gisela or Kari Zev would do all the removing I need. Inner struggle is for when they aren't big enough yet to run in for the kill.
The reason why I prefer Gisela over piggy is simply the cost. Piggy is still a very strong choice for this deck. that +4/+4 beserker trample for all is amazing; just a bit too mana heavy for my boros whiney build. that and I need some form of sustain while still having the first & double strike mechanic. I do run piggy from time to time in my deploy decks...
As describe earlier Lighting Runner works great with big hitters like Gisela...if you happen to cascade overload. it like popping Nahiri's ultimate...for all your creatures. of course it rare to cascade. lead alone doing it with overload. but when it happens...it so sweet. He is also one of the better-energizing creatures, you can get a lot of value with overload with runner...I only have oath of Ajani for the +1/+1.
Looking forward to Amonkhet. Samut, Voice of Dissent would make a great addition to this deck.
Avacyn said: @Gunmix25Our deck is very similar indeed. This is how I run mine.With this deck, I try to have my double strikers in the first slot. that way they gain twice the value from the light/shadow sword. I dropped Unlicensed Disintegration after having it always in my hand with nothing to remove. because Giant Spectacle on Gisela or Kari Zev would do all the removing I need. Inner struggle is for when they aren't big enough yet to run in for the kill. The reason why I prefer Gisela over piggy is simply the cost. Piggy is still a very strong choice for this deck. that +4/+4 beserker trample for all is amazing; just a bit too mana heavy for my boros whiney build. that and I need some form of sustain while still having the first & double strike mechanic. I do run piggy from time to time in my deploy decks...As describe earlier Lighting Runner works great with big hitters like Gisela...if you happen to cascade overload. it like popping Nahiri's ultimate...for all your creatures. of course it rare to cascade. lead alone doing it with overload. but when it happens...it so sweet. He is also one of the better-energizing creatures, you can get a lot of value with overload with runner...I only have oath of Ajani for the +1/+1. Looking forward to Amonkhet. Samut, Voice of Dissent would make a great addition to this deck.
Malcrof said: Cost to Max Level: 000,000 runeNahiri 1: Stoneforge - cost: 9 1 - Give your creatures +1/+1 2 - Give your creatures +2/+2 3 - Give your creatures +3/+3 4 - Give your creatures +4/+4 2: Lithomancy - cost: 12 1 - Discard 1 card, Draw 1 card, Destroy 1 White Gem 2 - Discard 1 card, Draw 2 cards, Destroy 1 White Gems 3 - Discard 1 card, Draw 2 cards, Destroy 2 White Gems 4 - Discard 1 card, Draw 2 cards, Destroy 3 White Gems 3: Harbinger - cost: 15 1 - Give a creature you control Haste and Trample until the end of your turn. That creature is also reinforced 1x until the end of your turn. 2 - Give a creature you control Haste and Trample until the end of your turn. That creature is also reinforced 2x until the end of your turn. 3 - Give a creature you control Haste and Trample until the end of your turn. That creature is also reinforced 3x until the end of your turn. 4 - Give a creature you control Haste and Trample until the end of your turn. That creature is also reinforced 4x until the end of your turn. Level 60 mana bonuses: +4 | +1 | +4 | -1 | Level 60 HP: 102 Level 60 max Creatures: 9 Spells: 4 Supports: 4Post your decks and tips for Nahiri below!