Square wrote: I will never not be impressed by the ability of fanboys, who, much more likely than not, have never once suffered any racism in their lives, to play the race card. What was my bigotry?
Square wrote: I'd like to think that straight white guys can handle hearing it from someone in the same group than one of 'them,' but it's not the case. I knew it already, but I tried. ... You can call me a racist/bigot however much you want, but it doesn't change how things actually are. I'm fine with the white male characters there, and I'm fine with non-white, non-male ones. The people who think I'm racist? They're not fine with that.
lokiagentofhotness wrote: _RiO_ wrote: We don't know if the female that took up Mjolnir is actually of royal descent. We know Thor Odinson, a.k.a. the original Thor, is. But he's hardly a princess. You're wrong. Thor Odinson is totally a Disney Princess. Have you seen his hair?
_RiO_ wrote: We don't know if the female that took up Mjolnir is actually of royal descent. We know Thor Odinson, a.k.a. the original Thor, is. But he's hardly a princess.
Vairelome wrote: you can't assume that I'm a straight white male.
Square wrote: Vairelome wrote: you can't assume that I'm a straight white male. Honestly, are you a straight white male? Say you're not, and prove me wrong. Unfortunately, even if you aren't, the fact is that the great majority of vocal fanboys are, so I would win the argument either way. It really is straight white guys complaining about this stuff. Do you think SWGs are the minority? But I would bet my lunch for the next month that you are, since people outside of any given group rarely get upset about anything that doesn't involve them personally. It's not racism to use statistical probability, as long as you keep a context in mind. Probability says you are a straight white guy. No insult, just life long experience. I think I've spent a lot of time attacking the soundness of these fanboy positions. Read my posts in this thread, a lot of attacking of soundness has gone on. You aren't interested in addressing those points, since you're busy being offended as a straight white guy and the racism that I can't possibly know you've suffered. Illuminate me, and the forum, rather than just be offended at the notion of it. Prove me wrong in fact, rather than in principle. As I wrote before, SWGs will have to be satisfied with having a majority of media aimed directly at them, despite being a minority of the people. They will kick and scream as it changes though.... So, you like a lot of stories about female or non-white superheroes, tell us your opinions on the new Thor and Captain America. I'm interested, I'm listening. Please, tell me.
Ben Grimm wrote: Can we get this thread locked? It's kind of degenerated at this point.
Square wrote: Honestly, are you a straight white male?
IlDuderino wrote: Ben Grimm wrote: Can we get this thread locked? It's kind of degenerated at this point. I think you had a good point
_RiO_ wrote: rvs623 wrote: Please be respectful to the character and those who created her and don't call her female derivative names of Thor as if she's meant to be a sidekick or something. Here's the thing: no matter what you do or say, she is a derivative of the original Thor. Thor turned female is nothing more than a cheap tactic by Marvel to both bait female readers and placate feminist outcry over cape comics being male-centric. Rather than coming up with a character that could stand on her own, they cannibalize Thor's character and then have their female derivative ride on the coattails of the popularity established by the original. Frankly, having the new character be such a derivative is kind of insulting to those same demographics Marvel is trying to appeal to. (Really; what kind of signal is this sending? She needs a male base to get any kind of popularity going?) Personally I think a light mocking of the name is just the right amount of respect to show this character and its creator. Marvel is stepping on a lot of toes with it, and they know they are. They already have their contingency scenario prepared and ready to go now that New Avengers has shown Odinson tap into his multiverse alternate's Mjolnir, which has the enchantment mirrored: "Whoever holds this hammer, if he prove unworthy, shall possess the power of Thorr".
rvs623 wrote: Please be respectful to the character and those who created her and don't call her female derivative names of Thor as if she's meant to be a sidekick or something.
Vairelome wrote: You're wrong. Beyond that, I'm not interested in giving personally-identifying information to a troll on the internet. Good luck on your month-long lunch fast; maybe it will teach you something. Explain to me again how your views aren't racist because of "statistical probability"? This should be precious. Also, I'm confused: earlier you said that you were a straight white male, but now you are referring to them as a "they" that will "kick and scream...." Is this a headmate thing? I'm not up on all of the latest Tumblr-speak.
DayvBang wrote: Im not going to lick this thread...