Marvel Puzzle Quest: Character Rebalances - Batch #2 (Nov 13, 2025)

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  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,957 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 13 November 2025, 19:15

    @pepitedechocolat said:
    simple data point, yesterday I could, with many packs, clear SCL9, today I cannot. I wont spend months recovering from devs sadistic attitude.

    Was fun while it lasted lasted

    Are you saying you actually can't beat the nodes or that it takes too much time?

    Unless the node has Dr Strange, I can beat anything on CL10 with just 1 star Hawkeye (240 + R4 Quantum Realm), Shang (350 + R5 Chimichanga) , Iron May (266 + R4 Refreshment Cart). If I don't start with 5 purple I retreat and re-do. Yes, it can take a VERY long time to win against enemies with crazy high health (once they get past 650) but I can win if I want to put in the time to do so (I don't, I just clear a couple times and ignore the challenge node that gets me everything I need progression wise).

    KGB

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,748 Chairperson of the Boards

    And the problem with THAT theory is that they just gave us Infinite Hawkeye, and there are a few other infinite combos as well, so you all can probably just switch to something different and punch up just as far as you used to.

    So I think the real answer is that maybe that was their goal, but they don't understand their own game enough to accomplish what they set out to do, or have different people working at cross purposes. There's plenty of evidence of this if you've been around long enough.

    For example, if they are indeed hitting Shang-Chi's true heal, why on Earth did they give him that to begin with? Half the nerfs in the game's history have dealt with true healing (who remembers the days of 2* Wolvie/Thor?) -- they know it's likely to cause a problem (for their definition of "problem"). So why are they still making characters that do that?

  • pepitedechocolat
    pepitedechocolat Posts: 258 Mover and Shaker
    edited 13 November 2025, 19:47

    @KGB said:

    @pepitedechocolat said:
    simple data point, yesterday I could, with many packs, clear SCL9, today I cannot. I wont spend months recovering from devs sadistic attitude.

    Was fun while it lasted lasted

    Are you saying you actually can't beat the nodes or that it takes too much time?

    Unless the node has Dr Strange, I can beat anything on CL10 with just 1 star Hawkeye (240 + R4 Quantum Realm), Shang (350 + R5 Chimichanga) , Iron May (266 + R4 Refreshment Cart). If I don't start with 5 purple I retreat and re-do. Yes, it can take a VERY long time to win against enemies with crazy high health (once they get past 650) but I can win if I want to put in the time to do so (I don't, I just clear a couple times and ignore the challenge node that gets me everything I need progression wise).

    KGB

    costs too many hp, failure rate/chance of stopping middle of combo much higher, and sc is not even nerfed yet...
    Not saying its not doable, just saying it will take me months to adjust my roster while getting less rewards for about the same effort overnight (dropping to scl8). It just feels like a scam...
    all the nerfs they are doing should have happened 2+ years ago. and overall the game is probably in the worst state ever.

  • Read_Only
    Read_Only Posts: 60 Match Maker

    @UNC_Samurai said:
    Nerfing Polaris was unnecessary. Doing it to Dr Thor is spiteful. Worrying about Shang Chi is beyond ridiculous.

    This might be my breaking point. My interest in the game has eroded over the last couple of months, and touching Shang Chi seems like the bridge too far. I realize I’m not a whale, but I have been a major advocate for this game for years.

    Please don’t do this, you still have time to correct this error.

    Absolutely agree. I chased the chase vaults they gave me. I spent hundreds of thousands of HP in the vaults they gave me. I spent HP to swap covers and they have just bent me over and will do it again with Shang.

    This anniversary I spent 200,000+ HP to finish off my 550 Jugg and Kang. I used excess dupe covers to swap to buy Sam. How long before Sam and Kang or even Juggs are on the chopping block from Vaults they gave me to chase.

    I've played for over 11 years. I can't tell you the exact amount because my shield supply like much of the game is broken. I don't even use shang much anymore and he's not an issue at all in the game, in fact I think he's one of the best designs this game has had. But a nerf to him will have me calling time on this ride simply because they have flogged his vaults year in year out, Asian new year etc etc. It's quite simply predatory.

  • MegaBee
    MegaBee Posts: 1,319 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    @pepitedechocolat said:
    simple data point, yesterday I could, with many packs, clear SCL9, today I cannot. I wont spend months recovering from devs sadistic attitude.

    Was fun while it lasted lasted

    Are you saying you actually can't beat the nodes or that it takes too much time?

    Unless the node has Dr Strange, I can beat anything on CL10 with just 1 star Hawkeye (240 + R4 Quantum Realm), Shang (350 + R5 Chimichanga) , Iron May (266 + R4 Refreshment Cart). If I don't start with 5 purple I retreat and re-do. Yes, it can take a VERY long time to win against enemies with crazy high health (once they get past 650) but I can win if I want to put in the time to do so (I don't, I just clear a couple times and ignore the challenge node that gets me everything I need progression wise).

    I'm surprised you don't have the Refreshment Cart on Hawkeye to keep purple topped off.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,748 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Tarelgeth said:
    Why would anyone bother to invest in or chase any character to help them, when any character who is deemed to be doing "too well" will have those benefits removed?

    You shouldn't. This has been the case since Day 1 (well, day 15 or 20 when they nerfed Forest Fire Loki). They've always been this way.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 302 Mover and Shaker

    Some people are never happy..... 🙄

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 868 Critical Contributor
    edited 13 November 2025, 21:02

    @Borstock said:

    @LennoxHC said:
    On the point of nerfing the characters like Polaris and Shang Chi that let newer players punch up, I feel a lot of that was offset by buffing 1* Hawkeye to enable his purple infinite. Using him since the buff, I think he's now the best punch up tool, and as a 1*, probably way more readily accessible.

    It would be nice to see if they did something similar in this wave of buffs where an ascended 1 or 2* character can step up to be used more often.

    I HATE that idea. Why am I chasing 5's and 6's when I'm losing to teams who went all in on some 1* that I've been staring at the entire time I've been playing?

    I despise that you can now basically play the entire game at a high level by simply maxing out all the 1*s. And now that they're nerfing fun toys, what reason would I have for chasing the high level stuff?

    1* star Hawkeye can allow you to win in turn one, competitively slowly by playing smart and repeatedly using his abilities…the 5s, and a few 4s, allow you to win on turn zero or turn one much faster with less effort. Accessibility to completing games with wins, with a gap that remains in placement (and rewards) because speed matters if you want to place well. And they haven’t even begun touching the “high level” characters.

    Edit: this isn’t the end all of the discussion, but it is a reasonable answer to your question.

  • rainkingucd
    rainkingucd Posts: 1,568 Chairperson of the Boards

    @rainkingucd said:

    @Grizwald said:
    @S0kun can we get a list of what the buffs are?

    We never got it on Batch 1, but I screenshotted most of them this time:

    1* Black Widow:

    • Purple cost decreased by 2
    • Blue unchanged
    • Yellow damage increased 2.5x

    2* Captain Marvel

    • Powers seem unchanged. Maybe health buff?

    3* Goose

    • Purple unchanged
    • Yellow protect tiles nearly 2x
    • Black tile ~60% stronger

    3* Hood

    • Yellow damage increased 5% per tile (still ends turn)
    • Blue unchanged
    • Black damage increased 2.5x

    3* Mystique

    • Purple cost decreased by 2, stun increased 1 turn
    • Blue cost decreased by 1
    • Black cost decreased by 3, stage 1 damage decreased 10%, stage 2 damage increased 12%

    3* Squirrel Girl

    • Yellow cost decreased by 3, tiles created decreased by 1, stage 1 strength unchanged, stage 2 strength increased 40% STILL ENDS THE TURN!
    • Purple cost decreased by 2, stage 1 damage increased 10%, stage 2 damage increased 60%
    • Green cost decreased by 2, damage increased 7%

    will do 4* later

    4* Abomination

    • Green unchanged
    • Black stage 1 damage increased 25%, stage 2 damaged increased 1.25x. Flavour text expanded as well
    • Purple Flavour text expanded

    4* Hydra Stomper

    • Yellow cost deceased by 2, Protect strength increased 5%
    • Blue unchanged
    • Green cost decreased by 2, damaged increased 4.25x

    4* Nebula

    • Blue heal increased 85%, strike tile strength increased 40%
    • Green cost decreased by 2, damage increased by 40%
    • Red cost decreased by 2, damage increased by 15%, strike unchanged

    4* Sam

    • Yellow cost decreased by 2
    • Blue unchanged
    • Red cost decreased by 6

    4* Spider-Ham
    didn't get this one, but @skittledaddy shared something on the last page
    "Into the Spider-Verse" went from 9 to 7 yellow AP
    "When Pigs Fly" went down from 10 to 8 blue AP

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,957 Chairperson of the Boards

    @MegaBee said:

    @KGB said:

    @pepitedechocolat said:
    simple data point, yesterday I could, with many packs, clear SCL9, today I cannot. I wont spend months recovering from devs sadistic attitude.

    Was fun while it lasted lasted

    Are you saying you actually can't beat the nodes or that it takes too much time?

    Unless the node has Dr Strange, I can beat anything on CL10 with just 1 star Hawkeye (240 + R4 Quantum Realm), Shang (350 + R5 Chimichanga) , Iron May (266 + R4 Refreshment Cart). If I don't start with 5 purple I retreat and re-do. Yes, it can take a VERY long time to win against enemies with crazy high health (once they get past 650) but I can win if I want to put in the time to do so (I don't, I just clear a couple times and ignore the challenge node that gets me everything I need progression wise).

    I'm surprised you don't have the Refreshment Cart on Hawkeye to keep purple topped off.

    Your right, I do need to switch who it's on!

    I never really paid attention to the fact it would give me +1 purple every time I fired a power. I guess because all the snack tiles end up on purple so I end up with tons of purple snack tiles to match with my Crit placement and with Chimi giving a high chance of +2 purple I never run out of it.

    KGB

  • TheGame32x
    TheGame32x Posts: 7 Just Dropped In
    edited 15 November 2025, 14:25

    So, let me get this straight. Somewhere, someone in your offices thought that the Unity switch was such a great success that you guys should follow it up with nerfing the hell out of the most played characters?

    If anything you guys should do anything in your power to gain back your playerbase after the clusterf××× that was AND IS the Unity switch. Every single new update comes with it's bugs and issues, old issues take months to resolve (if at all). It's been nothing but rough times since Unity. And in the midst of this shitstorm you decide to add onto it by destroying multiple characters, characters that have been around for years I might add, characters that the majority of your playerbase grinded for, or bought with real life money. With no compensation offered.

    And your best idea was to kill off more of your player base? Well done. You lot seem either hell-bent on killing of the game or you just have no self-awareness.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,748 Chairperson of the Boards

    If they wanted to kill the game they'd probably just turn it off. There's no need to drive players away first, we'd get locked out when they shut down the servers.

    If these changes make enough players quit that they have to close it down, GOOD. That's how businesses should work. Companies that make bad decisions don't stay in business.

  • Tiger_Wong
    Tiger_Wong Posts: 1,107 Chairperson of the Boards

    Buffs to Nebula - idk. I barely used her enough to know her powerset. Especially after the last rebalance she had.

    Buffs to Abomination- green seems reworked. Instead of destroying random tiles, now destroys tiles SURROUNDING other green tiles. ALSO gives return points for every red tiles and A/S/P tile destroyed. I THINK his black power costs less now? I’m really not sure.

    Buffs to Sam Wilson - his yellow went from costing 9 to 7. His red went from 14 to 8., while maintaining its damage. That is HUGE for him.

    Buffs to hydra stomper - yellow went from 8 to 6. I’m unsure about the rest

    Buffs to The Hood - yellow went from 14 to 8 and black went from 10 to 7. Which means we’re gonna get screwed in the nodes with hood and mafia members.

    Buffs to Raven - purple went from 9 to 6. Black went from 11 to 8.

    Buffs to 2* Captain Marvel - idk. I think the yellow makes more TuPs?

    Buffs to Modern Black Widow - the purple cost has been adjusted but not sure by how much. The yellow hits harder.

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