I know this isn’t an airport…

@MegaBee said:

@entrailbucket said:

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@LavaManLee said:

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@Borstock said:

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@entrailbucket said:

@LavaManLee said:

@entrailbucket said:

@LavaManLee said:

@fractalvisions said:
I hope they do patch it soon, because I struggle to find enjoyment in beating such absurdly easy teams. What makes it even worse is that it's happened at a time when the 'class of...' PvPs are running, which I usually enjoy a lot due to character restrictions resulting in a break from the usual meta.

Totally disagree. PvP has been fun for me in the first time for a long time. I never get to 50 wins otherwise as it is such a slog.

Totally disagree! I always get to 50 wins, but I had trouble finding the motivation to do it against weaker teams and seeds. I play PvP to hurt other strong players, not noobs or fake teams.

Luckily if you skip A LOT, you can still find strong teams to fight, but we shouldn't have to do all that just to play the game!

And totally disagree with you. :-)

My play style is not to hurt other teams. Is that you cup of tea? Honestly makes no sense to play PVP just to hurt other teams.

Yes, I enjoy taking points away from other players, dumping points to starve the slice, messing with people's hops, and taking placement over them. They get so mad (well, the s2 regulars are pretty used to it by now -- I think that's why they stay)! It's hilarious.

I especially enjoy retal wars! If we're going back and forth and I can get 2 or 3 wins for every win you get, that means I'm the better player. I like testing myself. I often try to bait people into wars by hitting them over and over from way above.

Winning every fight is boring. Never losing on defense is boring. MPQ is exciting when there's danger. That's why shield hopping is fun -- can you do your fights fast enough, before the zombies catch you? How many can you sneak in? If you never get attacked there's no point in rushing.

How do you play PvP (normally, not the way it is now) without hurting other players? You can't possibly shield check every single fight!

You play PVP way differently than I do. If you get enjoyment out of making other people's PVP miserable, good for you. I don't.

I don't, either. At best, you've mildly annoyed a complete stranger with an amount of effort that is never worth the reward.

The reward IS annoying a stranger (and judging by the number of death threats over the years, it's often not mild!).

I've never been threatened. I've had a couple of people ask for a truce, which I usually grant, but I've played the role of annoying guy before. It's usually just a back and forth and never hearing from that person at all. I get no enjoyment out of guessing I might've aggravated someone I don't know.

Oh man. I've been doxxed, sent gross autopsy photos, gotten all sorts of hilarious threats. Somebody sent a bunch of stuff to my wife once. Someone tried to get me fired from my job.

And all over a toilet game! These people are unhinged, it's hilarious. I'm not the one who takes this stuff seriously, I'm the one showing up late and giggling while I repeatedly -75 you out of first place and invalidate all the super serious "work" you did to get there.

I guess I just play a different game. I don't find doing that "fun" at all. I hit someone once and then move on. No need for me to be a jerk about it if I find someone I can hit repeatedly. But again, that might just be me. I get no pleasure out of just hitting someone for the point of making them feel bad and me to feel "good" about myself.

Repeat attacks often aren't necessary to cause trouble. Ever attacked someone for 70+ points? Are you aware that they lose that many points, if you're both over a certain threshold? What if that person was trying for placement and you've just knocked them out of the spot they've been working for, for hours?

Nothing personal, strictly business.

I mean, if I'm slowly climbing for placement, doing 5 point fights, and you hit me for 75 points, that's 15 fights' worth of points you just took off me. Do you feel good about that? Does that feel like something that's "just business?" Remember, there's another human person on the other side of every attack, and they are also trying!

(I won't take 60-75 off someone in a hit unless I HATE them and want them to lose points, or are confident they're so weak they won't notice the loss. That sort of thing is an incredibly aggressive act.)

I don't even pay attention to names and points! I play for covers and progression!

Absolutely agree, this is A GAME, not a matter of life and death!!!!!

@bluewolf said:
I love how this thread went from “maybe I should quit” to this long discussion of
PVP approaches.

Some people really like the...er..."new" matchmaking. But not everyone!

@Bzhai said:
You guys think maybe you've gone a little off topic here?

Just "maybe"?
Back on.track!!!!!
I'm also on the let's run bandwagon, I'll give a chance on next season, but....., looking at the new characters, there is not much hope

@Godzillafan67 said:

@entrailbucket said:
I'm more interested in how all these pacifists manage to play PvP without taking points away from anyone. Do you dump all the points back to whoever you hit?

If you're hurting people by just playing the game, why not embrace it?

When I first started playing LRs to get progress rewards, I noticed that I was matching to players that had even less advanced rosters than mine. Sometimes I felt bad enough that I would intentionally lose just to give them points. And then I discovered the term "seed team".

And now .... Played an LR this morning for 20min. 60 seed teams. Kept going out of perverse curiosity. How deep does this vein of pyrite run?

At some point, one player attacked me. Just one. What the heck are they doing? Too busy with these endless seeds to bother with such a would be irritant

@Nightglider1 said:
…and there’s no need to announce our departures, but man, oh, man am I tempted to just say “the heck with this” and bail out after 4189 (non-consecutive) days of play.

I feel this thread needs more Airplane so in the interests of that:

Surely you can't be serious.

@StillMonsoon3 said:

@DAZ0273 said:

Surely you can't be serious.

I am serious... And don't call me Shirley.

Surely there must be something you can do?!?!

@Domitronas said:

@entrailbucket said:

And all over a toilet game! These people are unhinged, it's hilarious. ** I'm not the one who takes this stuff seriously**, I'm the one showing up late and giggling while I repeatedly -75 you out of first place and invalidate all the super serious "work" you did to get there.

Brother you are 7k posts deep on a "toilet game" forum and you're not the one taking it seriously? xD

I like talking about the game. I'm not calling for the devs to get fired, complaining about feeling "disrespected," making yearslong plans or spreadsheets, or sending threats to other players out of game. Nothing related to MPQ has ever made me angry. It's fun.

So yes, I'm not taking it seriously. It's a fun diversion.

@entrailbucket said:
Fwiw I doubt you guys are actually bothering anybody. The serious PvP players are all in the multi 550 range and are most likely invisible to the sorts of folks who don't check names.

PvP is a lot more fun when you're attacking enemies instead of randoms, though! I like taking points away from players, but the part I didn't say (that I probably should've, but I assumed it was understood) is that I only like taking points away from my enemies, who've done something to deserve it. I'm not out here taking 800 points off some guy I've never heard of (probably).

I hope (and expect) you understand that people can experience things differently. For you the day I took you down 640 points was a turning point in your life and the start of a path of revenge. For me, it was Tuesday.

(okay, this did not happen, but it is a sentiment that arose in me on this discussion)

@stef_focus said:

@entrailbucket said:
Fwiw I doubt you guys are actually bothering anybody. The serious PvP players are all in the multi 550 range and are most likely invisible to the sorts of folks who don't check names.

PvP is a lot more fun when you're attacking enemies instead of randoms, though! I like taking points away from players, but the part I didn't say (that I probably should've, but I assumed it was understood) is that I only like taking points away from my enemies, who've done something to deserve it. I'm not out here taking 800 points off some guy I've never heard of (probably).

I hope (and expect) you understand that people can experience things differently. For you the day I took you down 640 points was a turning point in your life and the start of a path of revenge. For me, it was Tuesday.

(okay, this did not happen, but it is a sentiment that arose in me on this discussion)

What? That would be awesome! Nobody wants to fight and war and have fun anymore, everyone is so unbelievably soft and whiny and worried about being "nice" to the "community."

If someone did that I would be overjoyed to have a new, worthy opponent!