New Character - Nova (Frankie Raye) 5*

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  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 654 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @S0kun said:
    Just letting everyone know that Nova had a nerf intended prelaunch when we updated the numbers yesterday, but it doesn't seem like those were correctly implemented to expect to see a rebalance incoming back to at least what's been posted on this page.

    Yeahhhhhh ...

    "At least" is good.

    Nerfing the 5AP "fly away and just kill everybody" AoE isn't nearly enough. They also need to look at her 6AP "immediately power up her AoE, plus create a cascade that generates a bunch of passive damage."

    Maybe then they can also fix the 7AP "massive nuke plus monster passive damage boost."

    Hey man, I just play here :D

    I think we have both detailed the various precedents fractured by this release.

    Yell at the mouthpiece, for all the good it will do!

    "Uhhh ... so ... like ... we intended to other-than-screwup ... but ... uhhh ... it seems like maybe our well-intentioned anti-screwup measures hastily thought of in hindsight weren't actually in place in the past because time doesn't work that way so we'll totally do something maybe sometime like we said we would but for real this time ... or next time? Umm ... that is all, k, bye."

    Communication is rough, and much worse when constantly set up to fail in that role, but this organization ... it's a case study. A cautionary tale. Glad it's, in the end, low stakes. Ahem.

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,178 Chairperson of the Boards

    Basically what I've gathered from reading here since she's gone live is that I will lose much faster than I do against Sam and Juggs. I guess that's something.

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,178 Chairperson of the Boards

    @WilliamK1983 said:
    Basically what I've gathered from reading here since she's gone live is that I will lose much faster than I do against Sam and Juggs. I guess that's something.

    1-0 vs this bish...spoke to soon

  • Joe4521
    Joe4521 Posts: 43 Just Dropped In

    I played against Frankie and mThor with 672 Yelena and 3May4. I got slaughtered. I fired off Yelena's black and purple against her first turn, and it did zero damage. I guess you need somebody to get rid of the charged tiles immediately. I survived her green the first time she did it and killed mThor, but I couldn't do any damage when Frankie came down. I couldn't match away the charged tiles fast enough.

  • S0kun
    S0kun ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 959 Critical Contributor

    @dianetics said:

    @S0kun said:
    Just letting everyone know that Nova had a nerf intended prelaunch when we updated the numbers yesterday, but it doesn't seem like those were correctly implemented to expect to see a rebalance incoming back to at least what's been posted on this page.

    Phrasing.

    Try again because whatever you said didn't make sense.

    "...so expect so see a rebalance incoming back to at least what's been posted on this page."

    Typo on my end. Her numbers should be fixed to reflect what's been shared on this page, which I updated yesterday.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,681 Chairperson of the Boards

    @S0kun - Note you still show her Green power costing 5 when it's 6 in game. If it's really 6 then can you update that on page 1.

    KGB

  • S0kun
    S0kun ADMINISTRATORS Posts: 959 Critical Contributor

    @KGB said:
    @S0kun - Note you still show her Green power costing 5 when it's 6 in game. If it's really 6 then can you update that on page 1.

    KGB

    Thanks for flagging.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 721 Critical Contributor

    If you don't bring another charged tile generator, AND you don't bring a damage booster, AND you don't bring any AP to start with (from boosts or supports) she's actually pretty mid on the first few turns.

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,625 Chairperson of the Boards

    I'm just going to say that I like her. She's simple to use and effective, even at low levels. Her powers are all achievable on turn 0 with supports (but only 2 out of 3 unless you bring Boosts) and with mThor as a partner can even play the longer game.

    I will avoid her like the plague in PvP but she will get me to 25 wins quickly, I'm sure.

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 721 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Blackstone said:
    If you don't bring another charged tile generator, AND you don't bring a damage booster, AND you don't bring any AP to start with (from boosts or supports) she's actually pretty mid on the first few turns.

    I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this, but the team to fear (and the team that will be 100% of your queue very shortly) is Nova/Immortal Hulk.

    While Nova is airborne you can only target Hulk, who can't die. Meanwhile he's going to generate green for her (which he can't spend), so as soon as she lands she'll take off again. If he has the Gamma support this is even worse.

    Again, apologies for sharing this. I'm sure somebody else would've figured it out eventually though!

    You're good... I was patting my pockets and checking under the couches for a down side and a terrible joke is all I came up with.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,906 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Blackstone said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Blackstone said:
    If you don't bring another charged tile generator, AND you don't bring a damage booster, AND you don't bring any AP to start with (from boosts or supports) she's actually pretty mid on the first few turns.

    I'm actually somewhat afraid to share this, but the team to fear (and the team that will be 100% of your queue very shortly) is Nova/Immortal Hulk.

    While Nova is airborne you can only target Hulk, who can't die. Meanwhile he's going to generate green for her (which he can't spend), so as soon as she lands she'll take off again. If he has the Gamma support this is even worse.

    Again, apologies for sharing this. I'm sure somebody else would've figured it out eventually though!

    You're good... I was patting my pockets and checking under the couches for a down side and a terrible joke is all I came up with.

    I have a feeling the rise of this particular team might change some players' minds from "oh she's not that bad" to "she must go away immediately."

    Remember how much fun it was to be trapped in the Chasm/Hulk fights for an hour?

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 157 Tile Toppler

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The matches I played there were plenty of charged tiles on the board too, I guess we need to see a match against her with Shaw to see if he helps any at all.

    Shaw definitely helps if you survive turn one. If she's airborn and he gets to take a turn then her green passive is completely neutralised and hey black passive doesn't trigger whilst she's airborn

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,906 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bustapup said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The matches I played there were plenty of charged tiles on the board too, I guess we need to see a match against her with Shaw to see if he helps any at all.

    Shaw definitely helps if you survive turn one. If she's airborn and he gets to take a turn then her green passive is completely neutralised and hey black passive doesn't trigger whilst she's airborn

    Once everybody switches to Hulk as her partner, Shaw won't matter anymore.

    You can eat all the charged tiles and it won't do anything, because you can't ever hit Nova and Hulk can't die. It'll just mean Hulk kills you instead.

    Unless you mirror them, and oh boy is that one going to be fun!

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 157 Tile Toppler

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Bustapup said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The matches I played there were plenty of charged tiles on the board too, I guess we need to see a match against her with Shaw to see if he helps any at all.

    Shaw definitely helps if you survive turn one. If she's airborn and he gets to take a turn then her green passive is completely neutralised and hey black passive doesn't trigger whilst she's airborn

    Once everybody switches to Hulk as her partner, Shaw won't matter anymore.

    You can eat all the charged tiles and it won't do anything, because you can't ever hit Nova and Hulk can't die. It'll just mean Hulk kills you instead.

    Unless you mirror them, and oh boy is that one going to be fun!

    But nova can't create enough tiles alone/quickly enough for Shaw not to eat them and if you can match the greens before enemy can she won't be able to go airborn again so you can pow her before hulk. This is assuming of course she doesn't go airborn on turn one in which case it would be more difficult but still a possible counter.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,906 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bustapup said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Bustapup said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The matches I played there were plenty of charged tiles on the board too, I guess we need to see a match against her with Shaw to see if he helps any at all.

    Shaw definitely helps if you survive turn one. If she's airborn and he gets to take a turn then her green passive is completely neutralised and hey black passive doesn't trigger whilst she's airborn

    Once everybody switches to Hulk as her partner, Shaw won't matter anymore.

    You can eat all the charged tiles and it won't do anything, because you can't ever hit Nova and Hulk can't die. It'll just mean Hulk kills you instead.

    Unless you mirror them, and oh boy is that one going to be fun!

    But nova can't create enough tiles alone/quickly enough for Shaw not to eat them and if you can match the greens before enemy can she won't be able to go airborn again so you can pow her before hulk. This is assuming of course she doesn't go airborn on turn one in which case it would be more difficult but still a possible counter.

    Hulk creates green tiles every turn, and the gamma support makes green tiles more likely to fall.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 157 Tile Toppler
    edited 25 July 2025 00:56

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Bustapup said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Bustapup said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The matches I played there were plenty of charged tiles on the board too, I guess we need to see a match against her with Shaw to see if he helps any at all.

    Shaw definitely helps if you survive turn one. If she's airborn and he gets to take a turn then her green passive is completely neutralised and hey black passive doesn't trigger whilst she's airborn

    Once everybody switches to Hulk as her partner, Shaw won't matter anymore.

    You can eat all the charged tiles and it won't do anything, because you can't ever hit Nova and Hulk can't die. It'll just mean Hulk kills you instead.

    Unless you mirror them, and oh boy is that one going to be fun!

    But nova can't create enough tiles alone/quickly enough for Shaw not to eat them and if you can match the greens before enemy can she won't be able to go airborn again so you can pow her before hulk. This is assuming of course she doesn't go airborn on turn one in which case it would be more difficult but still a possible counter.

    Hulk creates green tiles every turn, and the gamma support makes green tiles more likely to fall.

    I know ... But I think Shaw is still going to be part of a viable counter team especially ascended . Even with the extra green tiles, she's not doing damage unless there's charged on the board and Shaw eats them faster than she can create them if he survives.

    I just beat a maxed out Jane, Riri and Franky team with Shaw, Chasm and Agatha and it was pretty easy

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 157 Tile Toppler

    I also just got absolutely wrecked by Jane/Polaris when I was using Jane, Franky and hulk. Polaris flooding the board with protect tiles means there's no room for charged tiles so again, Franky is useless without them

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,906 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Bustapup said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Bustapup said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Bustapup said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    The matches I played there were plenty of charged tiles on the board too, I guess we need to see a match against her with Shaw to see if he helps any at all.

    Shaw definitely helps if you survive turn one. If she's airborn and he gets to take a turn then her green passive is completely neutralised and hey black passive doesn't trigger whilst she's airborn

    Once everybody switches to Hulk as her partner, Shaw won't matter anymore.

    You can eat all the charged tiles and it won't do anything, because you can't ever hit Nova and Hulk can't die. It'll just mean Hulk kills you instead.

    Unless you mirror them, and oh boy is that one going to be fun!

    But nova can't create enough tiles alone/quickly enough for Shaw not to eat them and if you can match the greens before enemy can she won't be able to go airborn again so you can pow her before hulk. This is assuming of course she doesn't go airborn on turn one in which case it would be more difficult but still a possible counter.

    Hulk creates green tiles every turn, and the gamma support makes green tiles more likely to fall.

    I know ... But I think Shaw is still going to be part of a viable counter team especially ascended . Even with the extra green tiles, she's not doing damage unless there's charged on the board and Shaw eats them faster than she can create them if he survives.

    I just beat a maxed out Jane, Riri and Franky team with Shaw, Chasm and Agatha and it was pretty easy

    She doesn't need to do damage. She's airborne so you can't hit her, and Hulk can't die.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 157 Tile Toppler

    Yes but if Shaw (and your team) survive a turn one airborn and then he absorbs all the charged tiles and stops enemy matching greens, she's not doing damage nor going airborn again. When she lands, my Shaw literally one punch k.o her sometimes and then you can deal with hulk. So yes, Shaw is viable against her for sure.

    I've actually found running the same team against her (especially with MThor) is a baaaaad idea because you go first. Enemy Jane and Franky gets an advantage from all the charged tiles you've created on turn one and Franky literally takes 1 damage each time and is set up straight away for massive damage

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