New Character - Nova (Frankie Raye) 5*

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  • stef_focus
    stef_focus Posts: 158 Tile Toppler

    @Bustapup said:
    Yes but if Shaw (and your team) survive a turn one airborn and then he absorbs all the charged tiles and stops enemy matching greens, she's not doing damage nor going airborn again. When she lands, my Shaw literally one punch k.o her sometimes and then you can deal with hulk. So yes, Shaw is viable against her for sure.

    Not sure how Shaw stops Immortal Hulk from matching green tiles? Is a support involved?
    In this team the damage from Franky is just incidental, she is just there to keep Hulk on his revival tour, and Hulk's green tile generation increases the changes to keep her airborne.
    What am I missing?

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 158 Tile Toppler
    edited 25 July 2025, 07:54

    If enemy team matches every single green then yes that's a problem but they don't.

    Shaw absorbs the charged tiles
    Agatha can help fill the board with other colours and a third character (depending on the match up) can help protect/heal you or whatever you need.

    There's never going to be one team that wins 100% of the time but I've repeatedly beat Franky using Shaw and now I'm having this discussion I can't find a single bloody node with a hulk in it to show you lol (typical)

    Here's some of my matches thus far against 550 Janes, 550 Chasms, Fantasticars, LeapFrogs. They're not against Hulk but you can clearly see how beneficial Shaw is against her and I don't have a single 550 character and my Shaw is WAY below that
    ...

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/NhHZAxwCEsEwJf786

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 158 Tile Toppler
    edited 25 July 2025, 08:56

    Contrary to some beliefs, Shaw can indeed deal with Franky even with Immortal Hulk on the field.

    My recent match, though far from an ideal set up, showcased this clearly. My Shaw was at critically low health (nowhere near level 550 either), and my team was hobbled from the start due to a lack of health packs, resulting in two almost immediate KOs.

    Despite this handicap and facing a fully championed team with Hulk's gamma support, Shaw successfully eliminated Franky. This highlights that Franky isn't the main obstacle; the true difficulty with this team still stems from Hulk and Moondragon, a combo that has been around for ages.

    While Agatha would usually provide valuable stun and AOE to deal with MD once Franky is out of the way, my solo Shaw run was specifically to prove his effectiveness against Franky.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/X4BpnQ9n15y3V8Uq6

  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 470 Mover and Shaker

    Okay, is the limitation of her red passive to 5 tiles new? Or did I just not see that before?

  • Gymp28
    Gymp28 Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    edited 25 July 2025, 10:11

    How am I only doing 1 damage to her with lvl 500 M’Baku?
    Pretty sure the copy I was facing only had 2 green and 1 red cover…
    Her protection scaling capping at 5 charge tiles from the red power must be totally broken, surely?!

    Once I was able to kill MThor and get the charge tile count down a bit I was able to do some damage to Nova (when she wasn’t airborne… sigh!)

    She’d be a broken character as is, without actually being broken on release too

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 158 Tile Toppler

    Yeah this damage reduction is insane it surely must be broken. I've found that the only way around it is to remove the tiles completely with someone like Shaw or overwrite them with Polaris or another who can flood the board with special tiles

    But then if she's paired with a Juggs/Sam combo you're kinda screwed anyway.....

  • Gymp28
    Gymp28 Posts: 173 Tile Toppler

    @Chrynos1989 said:
    Okay, is the limitation of her red passive to 5 tiles new? Or did I just not see that before?

    Not new, you must have skipped over it

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 158 Tile Toppler

    These Devs are honestly insane lol

    Like her kit is literally stacked with almost everything

    Airborn
    AOE damage
    Passive damage when not AOE
    Massive single target damage
    Enemy team AP reduction
    personal damage bonus and reduction
    Immune to Stun
    Board colour manipulation
    Charge tiles generation

    Where was this quota when creating this unit?

  • Gymp28
    Gymp28 Posts: 173 Tile Toppler

    Ah, but there’s no permanent damage, true heal or niche affiliation synergies. That’s where all the ‘power budget’ goes on other characters these days. 😉
    It could be she’s the last 5 star they’ll be releasing (at this rate), so they spent the rest of MPQs power budget on her?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,383 Chairperson of the Boards

    She isn't immune to away, so bang, 100 points to Gryffindor power budget!

  • Jonny1Punch
    Jonny1Punch Posts: 440 Mover and Shaker

    US: Nothing could possibly be more broken than Unity.

    FRANKIE: Hold my Beer...

    MEGA-NERF'D SIDEWINDER: Is DC puzzle quest hiring?

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,285 Chairperson of the Boards

    Today I realized that Nova is 4Vulture turned up to 12. Maybe she won’t be as exciting in a bit but that’s my take right now. They just swapped out AP gen for doing lots of free damage and added in some dmg avoidance, unstunnable etc.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,383 Chairperson of the Boards

    Has anybody bothered trying Archangel against her?

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,682 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Has anybody bothered trying Archangel against her?

    He can't bring her down because his mechanism for that is stunning an airborne and she's immune to stun,

    KGB

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,383 Chairperson of the Boards

    @KGB said:

    @DAZ0273 said:
    Has anybody bothered trying Archangel against her?

    He can't bring her down because his mechanism for that is stunning an airborne and she's immune to stun,

    KGB

    Ah yes. 60 more points to Gryffindor.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,383 Chairperson of the Boards

    Has anybody tried asking nicely for her not to go airborne? Offered her some cakes?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,383 Chairperson of the Boards

    Oh wait. Aunt May would be the one for cakes but she is probably on Nova’s side. Scratch that.

  • Bustapup
    Bustapup Posts: 158 Tile Toppler

    So who are the real threats to airborn characters? Namors damage isn't that great to airborn and Peggy's is ok but nowhere near enough to take Franky out quickly.....

    Can she be sent "away" once she's airborn or does she have to land first?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,383 Chairperson of the Boards

    She can’t be sent away whilst airbourne. 4* Elsa can hit airborne but it costs AP - I imagine you need a 4a5 to make a dent. Space Elsa blue seems very complicated and not sure is working? Angela can hit airborne but see 4 Elsa. What are numbers like on a 4a5 Nightcrawler? He can dodge aoe and punish her when she lands. He will also dodge iHulk but not a hit from red.

  • Gymp28
    Gymp28 Posts: 173 Tile Toppler
    edited 25 July 2025, 13:26

    She-Hulk - 10% of max HP on them landing. Seems too slow. Everyone will be dead by then.
    JuggerDuck: Red does extra damage to airborne
    Kind of Aikku Jokinen - can force land them with purple ‘change of phase’
    Angela: powers ignore airborne
    Archangel (but not in this case)

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