Getting bored

@Borstock said:

@DAZ0273 said:
This week demonstrates how far Kitty has fallen though, I think I have seen one team with her on. Considering how dominant she used to be it sounds absurd but she needs a buff.

I'm on record as saying Kitty was never the problem. When she was dominant, the problem was Rockett. And then Polaris.

Those teams were mostly pretty easy to kill, the real problematic one was Beta Ray Bill with Kitty -- those two could just lock you out of ever doing damage at all.

I think the Kitty passive is one that doesn't ever look like a problem, it just prevents you from doing certain things design-wise with other characters that'd be fine if she didn't exist.

I'm not sure I can help here. I actually seek out the Thor/Polaris teams to attack.

Seeing the same teams is boring... Until you start seeing a new team repeatedly that makes the old team look easy... Then you wish you could go back to fighting those old teams that used to bore you.

I don't know if this is helpful to anyone... Seeing the same 2-3 characters every fight is boring, but I'll take Thor/Polaris over the one turn teams anytime.

If you're not there yet... Congrats.

I took an extended break last year and it didn't take me long to catch back up when I came back. It's a completely different game from when I left though. Maybe you need a break? Or maybe different slices?

@Bustapup said:
I'm really fed up of every single PVP seeing the same cheap, B.s characters in play. New strange event has powered up kitty and Hawkeye and my 1st three matches have been against ascended Polaris and Jane and I've been absolutely trounced by endless cascades and tiles being created. What's the point in having these different events, forcing a character in who you don't want to play and being murdered by the same old boring meta teamups over and over and over again.....?

Either that or you take your strongest team in only for an ascended spider-man, may and a few good supports come in and one shot you with critical tiles on turn one.

And to be clear, my account is no slouch I have loads of championed 5* and you just CANNOT compete unless you resign yourself to the fact you have to play the same counter characters to have a chance

The devs NEED to address this I don't understand how they think this is fun.

Game has not been fun since supports were added. They really need to make two seasons. Supports and non supports

Then again that probably still do nothing for me. I went years ago

Pvp 25 wins pure
Pve max progress

Last few years
Pvp 12 wins or up to the cp
Pve. Half way to max

This year
Pvp. Lucky to get 7 wins most is 1 to 3
Pve. Lucky to do 4 clears on 3 easy nodes

Game just lost its fun maybe getting all 1s to 550 ruined it cause there nothing to go after now. I will never get all 2s to 5. And 3 and 4. The moon will slam into the earth and the zombie dinos will come back before I get them to 550 😂

@Borstock said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Borstock said:

@DAZ0273 said:
This week demonstrates how far Kitty has fallen though, I think I have seen one team with her on. Considering how dominant she used to be it sounds absurd but she needs a buff.

I'm on record as saying Kitty was never the problem. When she was dominant, the problem was Rockett. And then Polaris.

Those teams were mostly pretty easy to kill, the real problematic one was Beta Ray Bill with Kitty -- those two could just lock you out of ever doing damage at all.

I think the Kitty passive is one that doesn't ever look like a problem, it just prevents you from doing certain things design-wise with other characters that'd be fine if she didn't exist.

I don't remember her and Bill being a problem without Polaris. But it's been a while.

Brb/kitty was the meta a long time ago for a pretty brief period. I think it was ihulk that came out soon after Bill, and okoye/hulk dominated everything. Kitty/bill did counter hulkoye pretty well, but was super slow vs hulkoye being the fastest team at the time. Hulkoye soon became the dominant meta.

@entrailbucket said:

@DAZ0273 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@DAZ0273 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@DAZ0273 said:

@entrailbucket said:
If the initial complaint was "I'm bored of facing and having to use the same few powerful characters every event" then "just use m'Thor and Juggernaut" is probably not the answer they were looking for.

I am fairly happy to fight Mighty Thor outside of boost weeks because that is a 95% win.

Maybe take it up with the person who posted that they were tired of facing the same characters?

Not sure there is anything to take up? We can each have our own experiences and thoughts, no?

If someone posts that they're bored of seeing the same characters all the time, saying "who cares, they're easy to beat" has nothing to do with their complaint.

But I never said that.

Fabulous.

I am curious about the strategy you're using to kill 550 Polaris/m'Thor (the combo mentioned in the OP), because I don't find it easy to beat at all.

That team is relatively low on HP (I guess? Is 150k per character low now?) but always comes with Leapfrog, and it's an incredibly fast clock. You need to kill Polaris within 3-4 turns (through Leapfrog) or you eat a guaranteed cascade for somewhere between 500k and a million damage.

I use 550 Omega Red (LVL 5 Chimichanga) and Chasm (LVL 4 Totem Dagger) against Polaris and mThor. Target Polaris with match damage immediately, and stay on her until she is dead. Leapfrog usually targets the third, required character over Polaris first due to Omega Red's damage at the start of the round. If Polaris gets sent away and heals, the match gets a lot harder...but it's still winnable more often then not. I still wipe occasionally due to mThor shenanigans, and sometimes my Leapfrog makes Chasm invisible at an inopportune time, but these things happen. shrug

I know not everyone has a 550 Omega Red and Chasm...but we're talking about going up against an Ascended 4-star at LVL 550, so that's probably even more limiting.

If you just want wins, it's pretty trivial to skip any team that will pose any sort of threat ever.

The issue with the Polaris team or the Juggernaut team (or really, whatever other overpowered thing people are doing) is the fact that I have to run some specific counter to beat them, or do some specific strategy to beat them, and they don't. The best option is to just always use the overpowered characters. There's no incentive for anybody to do different stuff, and so the metagame becomes stagnant -- the very thing OP is complaining about.

It's not a rock/paper/scissors metagame when rock beats everything and paper only beats rock.

@entrailbucket

Based on what you wrote, Sidewinder should have been the perfect character then. Strongly OP and yet very weak on defense. Yet there were lots of calls to reign him in and players seemed happy when he was.

KGB

You don't need any special counter to beat Polaris/mthor. I beat them every chance I see them in pvp with whatever boosted team I'm using. Target Polaris first and she goes down fast from match damage even when she's 550.

Very rarely do they ever get a chance to do much. I much rather take on 550 polaris/mthor than 672 whatever the best boost team is

@entrailbucket said:

@BriMan2222 said:
You don't need any special counter to beat Polaris/mthor. I beat them every chance I see them in pvp with whatever boosted team I'm using. Target Polaris first and she goes down fast from match damage even when she's 550.

Very rarely do they ever get a chance to do much. I much rather take on 550 polaris/mthor than 672 whatever the best boost team is

You generally can't kill her with match damage though, because they always have Leapfrog and she'll go invisible unless you burn all the charges right away.

I just try to have some kind of fast AoE or targeted board destruction, but it's annoying because you only have 3 or 4 turns before they'll cascade you for essentially infinite damage.

In my experience they usually don't have leap frog equipped, probably cause mthor will just blow up their own invisibility tiles.