Sidewinder (Seth Voelker) 4*

@entrailbucket said:
Has anyone ascended him yet? Probably not any of us here, but has anyone seen screenshots yet?

I've seen a 370.

Edit to add: I can confirm a second 370 is also in the wild.

@entrailbucket said:
Has anyone ascended him yet? Probably not any of us here, but has anyone seen screenshots yet?

No ascending for winder right now
My friend ready for it ,and I will pull if ascending aviliable

We are in new territory here as this will be the first (current one doesn't really count) Nerf to an ascendable character if it indeed happens, considering the sheer level of effort needed to get them there I wonder how they will handle compensation? Not a problem for me I might add...

@meteor0905 said:

Don't you know why ascending delayed ?

@DAZ0273 said:
We are in new territory here as this will be the first (current one doesn't really count) Nerf to an ascendable character if it indeed happens, considering the sheer level of effort needed to get them there I wonder how they will handle compensation? Not a problem for me I might add...

Sorry not sure what you mean?

@meteor0905 said:

@DAZ0273 said:

@meteor0905 said:

Don't you know why ascending delayed ?

@DAZ0273 said:
We are in new territory here as this will be the first (current one doesn't really count) Nerf to an ascendable character if it indeed happens, considering the sheer level of effort needed to get them there I wonder how they will handle compensation? Not a problem for me I might add...

Sorry not sure what you mean?

Normally you can ascend now, they delayed.

That we all discuss about "what if they nerf after someone ascend" ,it's embarrassing

it's 113+113 cover
226 pull of cp = 4520 cp
swap for 226 cover =90k HP

@Scofie said:

@meteor0905 said:

@DAZ0273 said:

@meteor0905 said:

Don't you know why ascending delayed ?

@DAZ0273 said:
We are in new territory here as this will be the first (current one doesn't really count) Nerf to an ascendable character if it indeed happens, considering the sheer level of effort needed to get them there I wonder how they will handle compensation? Not a problem for me I might add...

Sorry not sure what you mean?

Normally you can ascend now, they delayed.

That we all discuss about "what if they nerf after someone ascend" ,it's embarrassing

I didn't know ascension for Sidewinder had been delayed. I assume it's common knowledge for those who are able to ascend? It makes sense at this point as it limits the impacts of compensation and variables to prevent double-dipping.

That's an huge amount of resource to be nerfed and I can only imagine that the only answer to "what will compensation be?" is "not enough".

for previous release it could be ascend after 1 week (after new tag removed)

but I could be wrong lol

anyway I don't think it's good idea if we can ascend now ,it could be disaster

@DAZ0273 said:
I see, well it makes a lot of sense in some ways to delay ascension if he is going to be altered. Of course it would have made an equal amount of sense to course correct even harder than they did but hey to the ho.

Actually I appreciate the mild course correction from 5 to 8 AP. If (when) it changes again I hope it's another minor correction to something like 12 AP and then if a further adjustment needed to 15 or 18 and so on.

The previous Devs went WAY overboard on the nerf hammer and that really put a sour taste in players mouths regarding future nerfs to the point where you can't even mention one without a 1000 page thread against the idea of any nerfs.

So mild corrections gives hope that future nerfs will be done in the same manner so that characters aren't completely ruined by needed balance adjustments.

KGB

@KGB said:

@DAZ0273 said:
I see, well it makes a lot of sense in some ways to delay ascension if he is going to be altered. Of course it would have made an equal amount of sense to course correct even harder than they did but hey to the ho.

Actually I appreciate the mild course correction from 5 to 8 AP. If (when) it changes again I hope it's another minor correction to something like 12 AP and then if a further adjustment needed to 15 or 18 and so on.

The previous Devs went WAY overboard on the nerf hammer and that really put a sour taste in players mouths regarding future nerfs to the point where you can't even mention one without a 1000 page thread against the idea of any nerfs.

So mild corrections gives hope that future nerfs will be done in the same manner so that characters aren't completely ruined by needed balance adjustments.

KGB

I agree that this is how they should be doing balance, but they've shown no inclination to do it this way in the past. Ideally you make a small move, evaluate and then revisit if necessary. They don't seem to be interested in the "revisit" part though, which is probably why they tend to bring the hammer down so hard.

If this is the start of them doing it that way, great!

Well we know they have a hit list of characters they are looking at very closely in terms of rebalances so I guess Sidewinder is added to that list.

Hopefully it isn't another Chasm situation where it just drags on and on, if the Devs have identified issues then get it over and done with sooner than later before players get too attached.

@Speed283 said:
Should I spend my 600 hoarded LL tokens to try to get Sidewinder? Thanks in advance for all comments!

I wouldn't. And I put my money where my mouth is, because my Sidewinder isnt champed.

Just get the good power to 5. That's plenty for PvE if you want to use him there. It's also good enough in a lot of (not all) PvP situations.