Balanced Characters?

Phaserhawk

I know we all complain about characters being overpowered or underpowered, but I was wondering what characters do we feel are just right or at least close to be right?

I think we should just limit this to 3 and 4 stars and I'll go first.

Balanced

Punisher. This guy just feels right, he's not too strong, but not weak. He has counters and can counter, I think this might easily be one of the best characters all around.

Daken. Yes, I know a lot may disagree, but I"m not talking about how broken world rupture or c.mags is I'm just talking about the character themselves. He's not beefy, he only has one active (although phereomone is essential an active IMO) He is annoying, but managable. His blue why cheap and high damage, also has drawbacks, Daken just feels right. Sure maybe he needs to heal less or heat more, or maybe the strike tiles should be a little weaker, but for the most part, the character itself seems right.

I can go on but wanted to see what others have for balanced characters. but just to get a jab in

O/P--Sentry
U/P--IM40

Spoit

Psylocke, Lazy Cap, HT. maaaaybe Punisher

Unknown

Psylocke, HT, Storm, and Hulk overall.

BP and Captain on defense (they both basically have 1/7 chance of being awesome and 6/7 chance of being average, so that's actually pretty balanced).

over_clocked

Hood - he's very good both defensively and offensively but lacks HP.
Patch. He's only god tier when coupled with Maneto/Loki.

Unknown

I think The Hood, Punisher, and Lazy Daken are all fairly well balanced in the 3*.

I think Psylocke and Black Panther are very close, but are problematic in some way (BP has too much of his power wrapped into his black, Psy's blue is wildly unreliable).

Unknown

The Hood is balanced on offense but not on defense. He might be the only character that exhibit this behavior, as most characters are either good/bad at both, or good at offense but bad at defense.

Spoit

Phantron wrote:

The Hood is balanced on offense but not on defense. He might be the only character that exhibit this behavior, as most characters are either good/bad at both, or good at offense but bad at defense.

Obw?

Unknown

Spoit wrote:

Phantron wrote:

The Hood is balanced on offense but not on defense. He might be the only character that exhibit this behavior, as most characters are either good/bad at both, or good at offense but bad at defense.

Obw?

OBW would be strong on offense/weak on defense? I can see how an AR when you're behind on D is quite strong, but an AR when you're ahead on O will usually end the game too.

over_clocked

Phantron, is Hood weak or strong defensively, what did you mean?

ronin_san

OBW is not OP. She's situationally brilliant. You throw some strike tiles at her, and suddenly she's dropping 600-1000 per match.
That doesn't make her OP. That means she does damage after other character abilities allowed her to do so.


She's flimsy, and forces you to target characters that can one-shot her. Example:
Thor. I don't care if it's 2* or 3*. If I'm fighting him, I go after him first. he can whittle her down quickly.
2* Storm. Gotta keep the blue from her, or it can end Widow. Quick.
Punisher. Molotovs are cheap, and get in the way of a big heal. Suddenly, she stays low health for longer.
Panther. That black attack hurts everyone, and he has a way of putting down a lot of timer tiles, which has the same effect as (Molotovs).
Another OBW. Forces you to mooch purple AND blue, so she doesn't heal her team first.


She takes a LOT of damage if she is primary on the black, blue, and purple. She has a much higher survival rate when surrounded by 3*s. When I was running 2* Wolverine, OBW, and Ares, I'd top her off with a heal or throw extra purple/blue at her to start, when she'd enter the fight at 2K health or lower.

Unknown

I think that some may seem OP and some UP sure, but as they add characters and abilities that directly counter each other some of those dominant abilities are neutralized. The ge is progressing in such a way that characters balance each other and I for one am pretty impressed. Getting to the point where you actually can collect all the covers and implement these tactics might be another story but it doesn't seem to be balancing itself. Storm to strike tile artists. Daken to obw and hood. Loki to patch or daken. Once they open up the color combinations and you can really add a bit more diversity it will all settle in and feel like a complete balanced game. Just my prediction anyway.

As for individually balanced, hood might be the model. Daredevil could just be left off a roster and Thor doesn't really have any real weakness other than high costs making hi the other end of the spectrum. Everyone else falls works in tandem to balance each other.

OzarkBoatswain

Falcon, Psylocke, HT, Steve, Moh Storm, Hulk, BP. Maybe Punisher, although he would be the best of these.

Underpowered: Rag, Loki, Doom. Third skills please.

atomzed

These are the top3 characters who I feel are balanced. Balanced, imho means that the character has clear strengths and also some weaknesses.

1) Lazy cap (Steve Rogers). He has two active that potentially only costs 1 AP, he can stun, he can over write tiles, and he's a relatively big tank (7250). His protect tiles are also among the better one. However, in the pvp world, he's too slow so he can take too long to set up. His yellow also costs way too much (which is his primary color).

2) Hulk. Huge tank. 1 somewhat great green ability and a great black passive. His green is great against strike tiles character esp patch. However he is slow to set up, and has a useless red.

3) BP. Great black, probably the best black ability with only 4 match (for an AOE). Good tank. Let down by poor yellow and blue ability.

Unknown

locked wrote:

Phantron, is Hood weak or strong defensively, what did you mean?

He's much stronger on defense than offense. On offense I'd consider him balanced, while on defense he's one of the strongest character in the game (and not balanced).

Unknown

atomzed wrote:

These are the top3 characters who I feel are balanced. Balanced, imho means that the character has clear strengths and also some weaknesses.

1) Lazy cap (Steve Rogers). He has two active that potentially only costs 1 AP, he can stun, he can over write tiles, and he's a relatively big tank (7250). His protect tiles are also among the better one. However, in the pvp world, he's too slow so he can take too long to set up. His yellow also costs way too much (which is his primary color).

2) Hulk. Huge tank. 1 somewhat great green ability and a great black passive. His green is great against strike tiles character esp patch. However he is slow to set up, and has a useless red.

3) BP. Great black, probably the best black ability with only 4 match (for an AOE). Good tank. Let down by poor yellow and blue ability.

Cap and BP are probably the limit of what a high HP balanced character can be. They all have one devastating attack that's probably a bit too good, but it's made up by having no other attack options in other colors.

Captain is no slower than BP, and his attack is likely as devastating (even with the AI random target it's just not always possible to get rid of Star Spangled Avenger). It feels slow because you've some hyper offensive characters out there right now. Remember that IM40 was once considered a decent character and Unibeam needs 13 red.

over_clocked

Phantron wrote:

locked wrote:

Phantron, is Hood weak or strong defensively, what did you mean?

He's much stronger on defense than offense. On offense I'd consider him balanced, while on defense he's one of the strongest character in the game (and not balanced).

I'd say pretty balanced by his pitiful health points, but yeah, fighting the Hood without your own Hood or at least oBW can be a big mistake. Not many 3* characters require such handling.

Unknown

Hood's health is too low to be considered unbalanced on ANYTHING. IMO most heroes are fairly well balanced but the nature of the way PvP "works" makes some heroes a lot more useful than others (the Hood isn't one of them since the, very popular, Lazy Daken counters him incredibly hard.)

OFC, across the spectrum of relatively balanced heroes I would say some are better than others (eg. Daken) and some are towards the weaker end (eg. Psylocke).

The only heroes I think aren't in the balanced pack are probably:

Too good: C.Mags (abusable powers), Thor(why so much health AND so much damage? Not far off balanced though), Sentry (but only arguably since any required hero with a green pretty much screws his usefullness on defence and really needs Daken as well to be a worry. On offence the self damage is an irritation and again needs a strike source (since damage from sacrafice is more than just an irritation))

Too weak: Spidey (How far the mighty have fallen... what a piece of trash), Daredevil (unreliable impact and red gets removed by too many heroes, esp Daken), IM40 (AP drain? Really?).

2 cover heroes don't really count for comparison.