New Character - Iron Man (Cosmic Invasion) 5*

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,927 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    You could just go back to ol reliable Okoye or Apocalypse too. Flat-rate buffers have kind of been obsoleted in the era of super cheap high damage AoEs, but they always paired best with passive or cheap spammers and AP gen.

    I keep trying to find something with Apocalypse and Toni, but you want to use his yellow right away, which slows down her and this Iron Man. I guess if you start with enough to fire both, it's fine, and En Sabah Nur's red will start firing every turn in short order.

    I think yellow has the most free AP supports? Are there 3 6AP ones? For whatever reason I'm always using purple or green so I forget.

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 3,183 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    You could just go back to ol reliable Okoye or Apocalypse too. Flat-rate buffers have kind of been obsoleted in the era of super cheap high damage AoEs, but they always paired best with passive or cheap spammers and AP gen.

    I keep trying to find something with Apocalypse and Toni, but you want to use his yellow right away, which slows down her and this Iron Man. I guess if you start with enough to fire both, it's fine, and En Sabah Nur's red will start firing every turn in short order.

    I think yellow has the most free AP supports? Are there 3 6AP ones? For whatever reason I'm always using purple or green so I forget.

    I think it maxes out at two 6's and a 3, unless there's an indirect way to play with it (like Kamar Taj or something).

  • Painmonger
    Painmonger Posts: 236 Tile Toppler

    @Borstock said:

    I keep trying to find something with Apocalypse and Toni, but you want to use his yellow right away, which slows down her and this Iron Man. I guess if you start with enough to fire both, it's fine, and En Sabah Nur's red will start firing every turn in short order.

    I think Apocalypse has been too slow for a long time. I've tried supports & Half Thor, but had terrible luck. I never really use boosts, so that could be part of the problem. This Iron Man seems like a great partner potentially since he feeds both of those main colors & can take advantage of the boost himself once those repeaters come out.

    It was helpful to see IM passive AP works regardless of who makes the match, so he can accelerate any teammates use his colors.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,927 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Painmonger said:

    @Borstock said:

    I keep trying to find something with Apocalypse and Toni, but you want to use his yellow right away, which slows down her and this Iron Man. I guess if you start with enough to fire both, it's fine, and En Sabah Nur's red will start firing every turn in short order.

    I think Apocalypse has been too slow for a long time. I've tried supports & Half Thor, but had terrible luck. I never really use boosts, so that could be part of the problem. This Iron Man seems like a great partner potentially since he feeds both of those main colors & can take advantage of the boost himself once those repeaters come out.

    It was helpful to see IM passive AP works regardless of who makes the match, so he can accelerate any teammates use his colors.

    Apocalypse and Okoye were (are?) great with cheap or passive low-damage AoEs or multi hit abilities. They both kind of got obsoleted because they require some setup and we have true passives that can replace them now (Iron May, mainly. I'd probably put Sam Wilson in this category too).

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,726 Chairperson of the Boards

    Well, and I turned up too late to stop the argument and it just fizzled out by itself and we're back on topic. Hurray! I'm tempted to weed out the non-topic activity from a couple of pages back or just link a future page to allow people to skip the argument.

    @entrailbucket - I get the point you were making, but read the room. No point continuing to argue to the point of absurdity.

    @Borstock - valiant effort at defending a rational point of view.

    @all those who tried to get the thread back on track - thanks.

    I like him and the fact he can equip Arc Reactor helped me with the absurd 10 PvP wins daily quest.

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,231 Chairperson of the Boards

    Wheres my mention?!
    Also give iron man the avengers tower support (chef's kiss)

  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 757 Critical Contributor

    I would like to mention that @ThisisClemFandango is someone who posts on this forum. The account may or may not be a bot.

  • Scofie
    Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,726 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Wheres my mention?!
    Also give iron man the avengers tower support (chef's kiss)

    I figured you'd have passed out in a stupor by the time I wrote it... 😘

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 3,183 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Godzillafan67 said:
    I would like to mention that @ThisisClemFandango is someone who posts on this forum. The account may or may not be a bot.

    I genuinely laughed out loud. Well done.

  • ThisisClemFandango
    ThisisClemFandango Posts: 1,231 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 16 December 2025 01:15

    Thanks godzilla
    I feel validated.
    Also what sort of mental bot would write the absolute guff i churn out

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,927 Chairperson of the Boards

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Thanks godzilla
    I feel validated.
    Also what sort of mental bot would write the absolute guff i churn out

    Well, according to many posters here, AI is coding the game and making all the art -- seems like it'd be simple to have it post on the forum too.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 6,751 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:

    @ThisisClemFandango said:
    Thanks godzilla
    I feel validated.
    Also what sort of mental bot would write the absolute guff i churn out

    Well, according to many posters here, AI is coding the game and making all the art -- seems like it'd be simple to have it post on the forum too.

    Add a few more em-dashes and no one will be sure whether you’re writing or letting AI respond for you!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 7,927 Chairperson of the Boards

    @JoeHandle said:

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    You could just go back to ol reliable Okoye or Apocalypse too. Flat-rate buffers have kind of been obsoleted in the era of super cheap high damage AoEs, but they always paired best with passive or cheap spammers and AP gen.

    I keep trying to find something with Apocalypse and Toni, but you want to use his yellow right away, which slows down her and this Iron Man. I guess if you start with enough to fire both, it's fine, and En Sabah Nur's red will start firing every turn in short order.

    I think yellow has the most free AP supports? Are there 3 6AP ones? For whatever reason I'm always using purple or green so I forget.

    I think it maxes out at two 6's and a 3, unless there's an indirect way to play with it (like Kamar Taj or something).

    A reference for y'all re: "AP at start" supports.
    Only includes Demi supports ... newer supports from BCS are a hot mess.

    It's a rastered image, click to open.
    If you're on a phone ... well, that's what you get, browse on a real device :p

    Aha! It's green that has 3 6ap supports, but I always forget about the X-Men only one.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 860 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:

    @Borstock said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    You could just go back to ol reliable Okoye or Apocalypse too. Flat-rate buffers have kind of been obsoleted in the era of super cheap high damage AoEs, but they always paired best with passive or cheap spammers and AP gen.

    I keep trying to find something with Apocalypse and Toni, but you want to use his yellow right away, which slows down her and this Iron Man. I guess if you start with enough to fire both, it's fine, and En Sabah Nur's red will start firing every turn in short order.

    I think yellow has the most free AP supports? Are there 3 6AP ones? For whatever reason I'm always using purple or green so I forget.

    I think it maxes out at two 6's and a 3, unless there's an indirect way to play with it (like Kamar Taj or something).

    A reference for y'all re: "AP at start" supports.
    Only includes Demi supports ... newer supports from BCS are a hot mess.

    It's a rastered image, click to open.
    If you're on a phone ... well, that's what you get, browse on a real device :p

    Aha! It's green that has 3 6ap supports, but I always forget about the X-Men only one.

    Same ... so rarely relevant.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,995 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 16 December 2025 17:20

    There's an error in your table.

    The Spider Sense support at R5 gives 100% chance of 4 green. The wording says 'at start of battle gain 4 green AP'. So at some point it goes from 70 to 100 at R5.

    The equip part has also been changed from 'Spider Man' to 'Spider Sense' which allows more characters to use it.

    KGB

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 3,183 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Gymp28 said:
    So far I’ve been finding that Mag5 and Okoye pair really well with him. Get enough blue to fire off Mag5 tile destruction results in plenty of cascade matches and will passively accumulate TU AP for the Okoye boost.
    Fire off some CIM red and yellow for massive multi-hit damage, passively get enough blue for Mag5 again, fire this off again and destroy many of the CIM countdowns for several more large multi-hits.
    Rinse and repeat. It’s not especially quick, but it’s fun and effective

    Love finding reasons to break out Mag5. He's fun!