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Scofie
Scofie GLOBAL_MODERATORS Posts: 1,619 Chairperson of the Boards
in MPQ General Discussion

Hi all,

I've had to remove some posts and whole threads today and close others because it has apparently been decided today was a good day for an argument....

I've no problem with people debating issues, criticizing anything at all to do with the game, or even making good-natured jibes at each other.

But today, it has crossed the line way too many times. We've had baiting, name-calling, ridicule, and general snarky unpleasantness. I'm pretty easy- going most of the time, but today has been just too much and too far.

Disagree as much as you like with anyone, but do so respectfully and in line with the forum rules. Just take some time before you post and ask yourself "am I trying to make a point or score a point here?". If the answer is the latter, then please don't press the post button and save us both a job.

We're better than this.

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  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    People are frustrated and the devs aren't around to defend their decisions.

    To some extent it's always been this way here. Everything is basically normal and civil and quiet, then the devs fling some bomb into the game (true healing, various nerfs, the cupcake fix, etc etc) and disappear. Without the devs around to defend themselves, anyone who seems to be defending them gets the ire directed at them instead.

    I don't think anyone here is happy with what's going on, but it'll blow over eventually because it always does (you should've seen the disaster during true healing, or the xforce/4thor nerfs!).

  • Theghouse
    Theghouse Posts: 363 Mover and Shaker
    edited 11 July 2025, 22:50

    @entrailbucket said:
    People are frustrated and the devs aren't around to defend their decisions.

    To some extent it's always been this way here. Everything is basically normal and civil and quiet, then the devs fling some bomb into the game (true healing, various nerfs, the cupcake fix, etc etc) and disappear. Without the devs around to defend themselves, anyone who seems to be defending them gets the ire directed at them instead.

    I don't think anyone here is happy with what's going on, but it'll blow over eventually because it always does (you should've seen the disaster during true healing, or the xforce/4thor nerfs!).

    Sorry for calling you entitledbucket. (I still think it's funny though 🤣). Your side of most arguments is typically not entitled at all, often calling out those who do nothing but ask for freebies.

    You did ask for 4999 free tokens so it wasn't a completely unwarranted jab!

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Theghouse said:

    @entrailbucket said:
    People are frustrated and the devs aren't around to defend their decisions.

    To some extent it's always been this way here. Everything is basically normal and civil and quiet, then the devs fling some bomb into the game (true healing, various nerfs, the cupcake fix, etc etc) and disappear. Without the devs around to defend themselves, anyone who seems to be defending them gets the ire directed at them instead.

    I don't think anyone here is happy with what's going on, but it'll blow over eventually because it always does (you should've seen the disaster during true healing, or the xforce/4thor nerfs!).

    Sorry for calling you entitledbucket. (I still think it's funny though 🤣). You are usually on the opposite side of the camp calling out those who do nothing but ask for freebies.

    You did ask for 4999 free tokens so it wasn't a completely unwarranted jab!

    I've been called far, far worse!

  • Zarqa
    Zarqa Posts: 454 Mover and Shaker

    @entrailbucket said:
    People are frustrated and the devs aren't around to defend their decisions.

    To some extent it's always been this way here. Everything is basically normal and civil and quiet, then the devs fling some bomb into the game (true healing, various nerfs, the cupcake fix, etc etc) and disappear. Without the devs around to defend themselves, anyone who seems to be defending them gets the ire directed at them instead.

    I don't think anyone here is happy with what's going on, but it'll blow over eventually because it always does (you should've seen the disaster during true healing, or the xforce/4thor nerfs!).

    Fair points. But also: the ire tends to go both directions, compounding the problem and contributing to the negative atmosphere

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 716 Critical Contributor

    Thank you for addressing this.

    I took part in the the discussion along with many others and, while I did actively try to check myself to make sure I was being objective and respectful, at least one comment I left was more aggressive than I intended.

    I felt I was joking at the time I wrote it, but looking back it could be taken very differently.

    Your post here is honest and straight forward and I hope we can all use it to reflect on our selves and how we want to be seen within the community.

  • icarusmonkey
    icarusmonkey Posts: 41 Just Dropped In

    +1 to the sentiment that these moments of heightened emotions are very rare here. I’ve been lurking for a long time and I hope I speak for more than a few lurkers that these boards are for the most part fun and informative, and we appreciate the work that goes into to maintain it.

  • Omegased
    Omegased Posts: 622 Critical Contributor
    edited 14 July 2025, 09:29

    The biggest challenge at the moment is the game is an absolute mess, and there's a few people here gas lighting everyone.

    I can acknowledge that the Devs have generally fixed other mess they've created. The state of what it is now, is EVERYTHING is now worse. Graphics are broken, tokens struggle to work as intended. Lag is so big you sometimes enter a match because you've mashed the button. MMR is now failing. Yet people claiming things "aren't so bad" is just fuel to the fire.

    I sincerely hope a lot of the problems are fixed soon. While the content might have been limited before, it was nice to play. Now it's not nice to play.

    But to your point. It's not ok to act like an ****.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 11,324 Chairperson of the Boards

    As I have discovered having played on three different devices now the experience players are getting is a vast chasm apart. A complete buggy unplayable mess that throws me out the game on my tablet compared to a smooth fast experience on my wife's phone and our Chromebook.So yes, the playing experience is definitely not the same for all and we should definitely appreciate that what is happening to us is not a shared experience across the player base. My alliance mate likewise has had no issues at all.

    I hope players aren't intentionally gaslighting people and just truly not having experienced the major issues just aren't able to grasp how bad it is for some.

    If I am included in the accusation as I have defended the Devs over the token exploit then all I can say is read my posts about my experience with Unity and you will find plenty of negatives.I can also say that true to the Devs word, the game has sped up a bit but is still broken badly.

  • Chrynos1989
    Chrynos1989 Posts: 463 Mover and Shaker

    @DAZ0273 said:
    As I have discovered having played on three different devices now the experience players are getting is a vast chasm apart. A complete buggy unplayable mess that throws me out the game on my tablet compared to a smooth fast experience on my wife's phone and our Chromebook.So yes, the playing experience is definitely not the same for all and we should definitely appreciate that what is happening to us is not a shared experience across the player base. My alliance mate likewise has had no issues at all.

    I hope players aren't intentionally gaslighting people and just truly not having experienced the major issues just aren't able to grasp how bad it is for some.

    If I am included in the accusation as I have defended the Devs over the token exploit then all I can say is read my posts about my experience with Unity and you will find plenty of negatives.I can also say that true to the Devs word, the game has sped up a bit but is still broken badly.

    The game loads a lot quicker after closing for me, besides the lags (which a force close - now that this won’t lead to any token farming anymore - effectivly reset for about 30-40 fights), I have no problems (the graphic glitches don‘t count, they are freaky but in no point hindering)
    The game gets auto closed a lot more often, as long as this isnt wrongfully counted as exploiting I really don’t care.
    I’m on a 2022 IPad

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Omegased said:
    The biggest challenge at the moment is the game is an absolute mess, and there's a few people here gas lighting everyone.

    I can acknowledge that the Devs have generally fixed other mess they've created. The state of what it is now, is EVERYTHING is now worse. Graphics are broken, tokens struggle to work as intended. Lag is so big you sometimes enter a match because you've mashed the button. MMR is now failing. Yet people claiming things "aren't so bad" is just fuel to the fire.

    I sincerely hope a lot of the problems are fixed soon. While the content might have been limited before, it was nice to play. Now it's not nice to play.

    But to your point. It's not ok to act like an ****.

    Things aren't so bad for me after the first patch. They may be catastrophically bad for you -- I don't know and can't know, because I am not you. I've been pretty clear about this. Posting our own experiences is all we can do, no one is qualified to speak for all players.

    How is that gaslighting?

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,841 Chairperson of the Boards

    This is not some kind of "you define your own reality" woo nonsense. We are all playing on different devices. We are literally living in different realities.

  • Godzillafan67
    Godzillafan67 Posts: 698 Critical Contributor

    @entrailbucket said:
    This is not some kind of "you define your own reality" woo nonsense. We are all playing on different devices. We are literally living in different realities.

    What we need is a centralized matrix of devices and issues.

  • Bzhai
    Bzhai Posts: 576 Critical Contributor

    @Omegased said:
    The biggest challenge at the moment is the game is an absolute mess, and there's a few people here gas lighting everyone.

    I can acknowledge that the Devs have generally fixed other mess they've created. The state of what it is now, is EVERYTHING is now worse. Graphics are broken, tokens struggle to work as intended. Lag is so big you sometimes enter a match because you've mashed the button. MMR is now failing. Yet people claiming things "aren't so bad" is just fuel to the fire.

    I sincerely hope a lot of the problems are fixed soon. While the content might have been limited before, it was nice to play. Now it's not nice to play.

    But to your point. It's not ok to act like an ****.

    This is what usually starts fights. Just let people rant.

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