Please Fix Agatha3

WhiteBomber

I also don't think they were saying not to fix it, though the "get real" and opinion based list definitely comes with a hint of "you don't know things" or "I know better" with only 1 real outcome, "why bother".

The fact is, they made a change already to try and address it, she was still new-ish and it's not a complex bug. We're not so blind we don't see how long it takes to get things addressed (if they even do at all), but I'm cool to still hold out hope, for now.

Just in case, because typed words are regularly perceived differently:
Get Real
Cambridge definition: Used for telling someone that they should try to understand the true facts of a situation and not hope for what is impossible.
Oxford: Used to convey that an idea or statement is foolish or overly idealistic.

Godzillafan67

I'm optimistic and/or naive that the fixes will occur regularly once the new engine is in place. I'll certainly be floating my request back up once they've settled in with MPQ 2: Engine Overhaul.

BriMan2222

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@DAZ0273 said:
It is time to get real.

Bugs in the game that the Devs will move super quickly on:

1.) Anything giving out more resources than it should do
2.) Problem with offers/stores/anything paid for
3.) Problems with running PvE/PvP/Boss etc or loading the game

Bugs in game that the Devs will/might get around to eventually

Everything else including bugs with any of the 300-400 characters now in the game who basically they know you can just use somebody else instead (unless connected to point 3 above)

I suspect the only reason Mephisto might get on the radar is if his bug has potential to break the game by freezing a board, which Agatha's doesn't.

Well damnit, you're right... Maybe we should just stop trying, or stop mentioning issues you believe don't fit the criteria all together. I'll update the thread for you.

I don't think he was saying they shouldn't fix it, or that we shouldn't talk about it. From my perspective they absolutely should be fixing this -- AND Evo, and, like, the Hit Monkey team up thing that's been broken for literally years now, and of course it's worth asking them where all these fixes are and what's taking so long.

I can understand why they're not doing this stuff, I guess (all the reasons Daz explained). That doesn't mean I agree with their rationale for deferring it, though (this stuff should be easy, come on guys!).

I'm not sure hit monkeys red team up is actually bugged. There are certain effects that don't go through as team ups.

For instance, beta ray bills blue team up will do the damage, and I'm pretty sure it creates the countdown tile as well, but it doesn't create any protect tiles. That part of the ability is unique to Bill and doesn't happen without him being on the team.

I think this may be the same thing with hit monkey. His team up does the damage, but the keeping enemies from reviving is unique to him and doesn't happen without him actually being on the team.

DAZ0273

@WhiteBomber said:

@DAZ0273 said:
It is time to get real.

Bugs in the game that the Devs will move super quickly on:

1.) Anything giving out more resources than it should do
2.) Problem with offers/stores/anything paid for
3.) Problems with running PvE/PvP/Boss etc or loading the game

Bugs in game that the Devs will/might get around to eventually

Everything else including bugs with any of the 300-400 characters now in the game who basically they know you can just use somebody else instead (unless connected to point 3 above)

I suspect the only reason Mephisto might get on the radar is if his bug has potential to break the game by freezing a board, which Agatha's doesn't.

Well damnit, you're right... Maybe we should just stop trying, or stop mentioning issues you believe don't fit the criteria all together. I'll update the thread for you.

Wow. Ok then. I never said any of that but you go ahead and attack me if it makes you feel better whilst waiting.

DAZ0273

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@DAZ0273 said:
It is time to get real.

Bugs in the game that the Devs will move super quickly on:

1.) Anything giving out more resources than it should do
2.) Problem with offers/stores/anything paid for
3.) Problems with running PvE/PvP/Boss etc or loading the game

Bugs in game that the Devs will/might get around to eventually

Everything else including bugs with any of the 300-400 characters now in the game who basically they know you can just use somebody else instead (unless connected to point 3 above)

I suspect the only reason Mephisto might get on the radar is if his bug has potential to break the game by freezing a board, which Agatha's doesn't.

Well damnit, you're right... Maybe we should just stop trying, or stop mentioning issues you believe don't fit the criteria all together. I'll update the thread for you.

I don't think he was saying they shouldn't fix it, or that we shouldn't talk about it. From my perspective they absolutely should be fixing this -- AND Evo, and, like, the Hit Monkey team up thing that's been broken for literally years now, and of course it's worth asking them where all these fixes are and what's taking so long.

I can understand why they're not doing this stuff, I guess (all the reasons Daz explained). That doesn't mean I agree with their rationale for deferring it, though (this stuff should be easy, come on guys!).

Yeah. Of course I would be happy for them to fix all the bugs. I was just being realistic with how it appears to be. People are free to say and do as they wish. I really don't get where anyone could get the takeaway I was saying they can't wish or hope or that the Devs shouldn't do anything.

DAZ0273

@WhiteBomber said:
I also don't think they were saying not to fix it, though the "get real" and opinion based list definitely comes with a hint of "you don't know things" or "I know better" with only 1 real outcome, "why bother".

The fact is, they made a change already to try and address it, she was still new-ish and it's not a complex bug. We're not so blind we don't see how long it takes to get things addressed (if they even do at all), but I'm cool to still hold out hope, for now.

Just in case, because typed words are regularly perceived differently:
Get Real
Cambridge definition: Used for telling someone that they should try to understand the true facts of a situation and not hope for what is impossible.
Oxford: Used to convey that an idea or statement is foolish or overly idealistic.

This is not cool, you are twisting this way beyond what was intended and have made this in to a personal attack when there was no such intention or malice in my words towards you or anybody else. I am sorry my comment offended you, that was far from my intention. It was a general observation not a direct message to you. To suggest I have some sort of "insider" knowledge is laughably wrong. I have no idea what I have done elsewhere on this website to upset you but this feels like a directly personal attack on me when I have never to my knowledge so much as had a crossed word with you. I am very sorry for whatever it is I have done to upset you. My opinion is just that, that it is unlikely this will be given any sort of priority, I don't think that is worthy of being attacked like this in a personal way but OK, if you feel that is warranted then I assume you have your reasons. Hopefully Agatha and Mephisto and everybody else is fixed soon.

entrailbucket

@BriMan2222 said:

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@DAZ0273 said:
It is time to get real.

Bugs in the game that the Devs will move super quickly on:

1.) Anything giving out more resources than it should do
2.) Problem with offers/stores/anything paid for
3.) Problems with running PvE/PvP/Boss etc or loading the game

Bugs in game that the Devs will/might get around to eventually

Everything else including bugs with any of the 300-400 characters now in the game who basically they know you can just use somebody else instead (unless connected to point 3 above)

I suspect the only reason Mephisto might get on the radar is if his bug has potential to break the game by freezing a board, which Agatha's doesn't.

Well damnit, you're right... Maybe we should just stop trying, or stop mentioning issues you believe don't fit the criteria all together. I'll update the thread for you.

I don't think he was saying they shouldn't fix it, or that we shouldn't talk about it. From my perspective they absolutely should be fixing this -- AND Evo, and, like, the Hit Monkey team up thing that's been broken for literally years now, and of course it's worth asking them where all these fixes are and what's taking so long.

I can understand why they're not doing this stuff, I guess (all the reasons Daz explained). That doesn't mean I agree with their rationale for deferring it, though (this stuff should be easy, come on guys!).

I'm not sure hit monkeys red team up is actually bugged. There are certain effects that don't go through as team ups.

For instance, beta ray bills blue team up will do the damage, and I'm pretty sure it creates the countdown tile as well, but it doesn't create any protect tiles. That part of the ability is unique to Bill and doesn't happen without him being on the team.

I think this may be the same thing with hit monkey. His team up does the damage, but the keeping enemies from reviving is unique to him and doesn't happen without him actually being on the team.

I thought something else was broken with Hit Monkey but honestly it's so long ago I don't even remember!

WhiteBomber

@DAZ0273 I'm not mad yo, just trying to keep the hope alive (for everyone).

I don't harbor feelings of discontent for anyone here, but I will defend against what I could only perceive as negative comments, towards the initiative.

I apologize for disrespecting your (seemingly, I don't actually know) favorite characters name.