What's New MPQ - February 2025 (Updated 02/25/25)

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  • BriMan2222
    BriMan2222 Posts: 1,427 Chairperson of the Boards

    Maybe they saw how much progress we have already made on this challenge and we're like, nah we don't want this to be too easy for them.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,949 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 17 February 2025, 16:39

    @Daredevil217 said:
    @S0kun

    We were supposed to get 4* Falcon PVP on Feb 9-12 and never did. Any chance we can run that as a way to help with the challenge? Weird we had the 5* and 3* but not the OG Falcap!

    Um….that was a typo. The Feb 9-12 PvP was the one for the new 5 Sam.

    They just put the 4 in on the list here.

    That said, they can certainly run a 4 Sam PvP in early March to help us get over the line. (If we need it, it seems like we’ll clear level 5 easily.)

  • WilliamK1983
    WilliamK1983 Posts: 1,068 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited 26 February 2025, 06:49

    Riri and mthor boosted together is a stun lock nightmare

  • CoxLargo
    CoxLargo Posts: 57 Match Maker

    BOSS Tomorrow, any real info?

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,523 Chairperson of the Boards

    @S0kun said:
    Grats everyone for completing the challenge early and apologies for the typo for the earlier PVP! Now time to see that Red ISO bonus pileup!

    I'm still chasing the next High Evolutionary Boss info and to confirm, it will only run as a Regular version again.

    Curious why there is no more heroic boss. It can't be about the upcoming "engine change" as the heroic boss was able to run well before any change. So why is there no more heroic boss?

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,545 Chairperson of the Boards

    @LavaManLee said:

    @S0kun said:
    Grats everyone for completing the challenge early and apologies for the typo for the earlier PVP! Now time to see that Red ISO bonus pileup!

    I'm still chasing the next High Evolutionary Boss info and to confirm, it will only run as a Regular version again.

    Curious why there is no more heroic boss. It can't be about the upcoming "engine change" as the heroic boss was able to run well before any change. So why is there no more heroic boss?

    They said they had pulled some team off of projects to focus on the UI - mentioned was creating new 3*, character rebalances and Heroic Boss events. So it's a staffing issue it seems. Of course I suspect this change might end up being permanent...

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,523 Chairperson of the Boards

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @LavaManLee said:

    @S0kun said:
    Grats everyone for completing the challenge early and apologies for the typo for the earlier PVP! Now time to see that Red ISO bonus pileup!

    I'm still chasing the next High Evolutionary Boss info and to confirm, it will only run as a Regular version again.

    Curious why there is no more heroic boss. It can't be about the upcoming "engine change" as the heroic boss was able to run well before any change. So why is there no more heroic boss?

    They said they had pulled some team off of projects to focus on the UI - mentioned was creating new 3*, character rebalances and Heroic Boss events. So it's a staffing issue it seems. Of course I suspect this change might end up being permanent...

    Thanks! Not sure why people are needed to actually turn on heroic? Seems like it should be easy and take, what, 30 minutes at the most?

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,949 Chairperson of the Boards

    Curious why there is no more heroic boss. It can't be about the upcoming "engine change" as the heroic boss was able to run well before any change. So why is there no more heroic boss?

    They said they had pulled some team off of projects to focus on the UI - mentioned was creating new 3*, character rebalances and Heroic Boss events. So it's a staffing issue it seems. Of course I suspect this change might end up being permanent...

    Thanks! Not sure why people are needed to actually turn on heroic? Seems like it should be easy and take, what, 30 minutes at the most?

    I might, if my tinfoil hat was firmly in place, suggest that removing the Heroic boss suddenly means that approx 10,000 people (T500) no longer get to pick a specific Rank 3, or better support. Which is a pretty big deal for a lot of players.

    But we do get wildcard shards we can apply... I do think we lost a significant number of tokens though. I am not sure if there's been anyone who tried to compare rewards. If you're not very far along with your supports I think the new/current rewards are worse for you since you can't pull as many new ones.

    They also seem to have reintroduced support offers more meaningfully since they paused the Heroic boss event.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 6,242 Chairperson of the Boards

    @LavaManLee said:

    @DAZ0273 said:

    @LavaManLee said:

    @S0kun said:
    Grats everyone for completing the challenge early and apologies for the typo for the earlier PVP! Now time to see that Red ISO bonus pileup!

    I'm still chasing the next High Evolutionary Boss info and to confirm, it will only run as a Regular version again.

    Curious why there is no more heroic boss. It can't be about the upcoming "engine change" as the heroic boss was able to run well before any change. So why is there no more heroic boss?

    They said they had pulled some team off of projects to focus on the UI - mentioned was creating new 3*, character rebalances and Heroic Boss events. So it's a staffing issue it seems. Of course I suspect this change might end up being permanent...

    Thanks! Not sure why people are needed to actually turn on heroic? Seems like it should be easy and take, what, 30 minutes at the most?

    So, they haven't been super open about this (understandably) but based on tidbits we've gotten over the years from the old devs, the backend of MPQ is a total disaster. This is likely one big reason for the "engine" update.

    For example, I'm pretty sure that it used to be one person's entire job to manually create and populate all the rewards for PvE and PvP events. Another example -- when 5* Thanos was released, his purple power stopped other characters from changing the board if his CD is out. Every single power in the entire game had to have a second effect added to it -- one effect for when that CD is on the board, and another one for every other situation.

    One might ask, "why are these things not scripted/templated/etc" and I have no answer for that (neither did the old devs!). I can only imagine what sort of cruft has built up over the years, and I do know there are tons of things that are still being done completely by hand.

  • DAZ0273
    DAZ0273 Posts: 10,545 Chairperson of the Boards

    When Omega Red debuted they added him to a PvE node and it apparently took something like 20 hours of Dev time (I could be wrong about that number but it was a surprisingly large amount), so chances are any changes are time intensive.

  • dianetics
    dianetics Posts: 1,697 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    One might ask, "why are these things not scripted/templated/etc" and I have no answer for that (neither did the old devs!). I can only imagine what sort of cruft has built up over the years, and I do know there are tons of things that are still being done completely by hand.

    If I had to guess, it would probably be because the engine was derived from either Puzzle Quest 1 (Nintendo DS 2007) or 2 (XBLA 2010). They were more story driven rpgs with only a few characters and a strict set of rules.

    A case like you mentioned with Thanos would have been unimaginable in those games since it basically wasn't needed. If you go back and play PQ2 you will see what I mean.

  • trenchdigger
    trenchdigger Posts: 185 Tile Toppler

    They were both great games for their time.

  • WhiteBomber
    WhiteBomber Posts: 505 Critical Contributor

    Puzzle Quest on PSP remains one of the best puzzle games to this day.

  • KGB
    KGB Posts: 3,409 Chairperson of the Boards

    I loved PuzzleQuest/PuzzleQuest2.

    Unfortunately the original suffered from wild imbalances that are worse than MPQ. Turn 0 wins were trivial to achieve. The PC/XBLA versions got a balance update that helped a little but turn 0 wins remained unless you were unlucky.

    KGB

  • Blackstone
    Blackstone Posts: 626 Critical Contributor

    When the new engine is up and running...
    ... And with the addition of new damage increasing characters...
    ... We'll need to test and find the new upper limits of damage before flipping back to 1.

  • Phumade
    Phumade Posts: 2,529 Chairperson of the Boards

    It goes with out saying that the "economic changes" increased "stone chances", tweaks to boss reward structure don't exist in a vacuum. Its pretty clear major changes are coming to the game. Who knows what that really means in terms of how we play and the new "meta" growing your roster strategy.

  • concillado
    concillado Posts: 91 Match Maker
    edited 2 March 2025, 22:39

    Now for something much more interesting.... the next 5*... Red Hulk, The Leader... or one of the Thunderbolts...or Fantastics?? ;-)

    Let the spice flow....

  • Daredevil217
    Daredevil217 Posts: 4,027 Chairperson of the Boards

    Daredevil will not tolerate the disrespect. 5* Punisher incoming!

  • concillado
    concillado Posts: 91 Match Maker
    edited 3 March 2025 08:27

    hahah.... nice one!! :D

    True, I totally forgot about the Devil himself and a 5* Punisher (cinematic version) would be VERY welcome!.... and don't forget Bullseye, who is also a valid candidate in this case!

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