What do you all think about new set rate and coalition events?

Machine

Dear MTG:PQ community,

I am very interested to hear what you all think about the current rate at which new sets are being dropped and the choice of Webcore regarding coalition events.

The reason for this is that I noticed myself getting tired of new sets dropping so fast, not being able to enjoy playing the new cards and collect them at the same time. Additionally, I hear and see more people complaining about the lack of resources to acquire a great amount of cards of each set. Aren't we getting close to the point (or maybe we have even passed that point) where more cards added to the game (or the rate at which new cards are being added) is working against the game instead of in favor of the game?

The same with coalition events; Relatively new standard events like Seasons of Bloomburrow have only been run once. There are so many cool standard events to choose from yet Webcore seems to prioritize legacy events or turn legacy events back into standard events. Who really cares about an event that evolves around (were)wolves? Innistrad is no longer in standard.

Please note that this is just to have an open discussion. Let's do just that without pointing fingers or calling names. Thanks!

Tremayne

Interesting topic. Thank you @Machine for bringing it up.

I’m not a collector so I’m actually indifferent about having every card - just the good ones

I was a VIP but actually found it boring to have access to to every card shortly after a new set dropped, so I dropped VIP so I would be forced to experiment with finding good combos with the cards available to me. I think that trying out new things and experimenting with the options available to you in your library is one of the main strengths of MTGPQ.

What I hadn’t realised was that a main limitation to deck building was not my library. As it turns out it is actually the opponents powerhouse deck, that is a result of them having every OP card.

So I think that we veterans that have every card (but only plays with the same few cards) are a bigger drawback for the game.

Abracadavers

I agree that the amount of new cards makes it hard to obtain and play around with everything that you want to before more come out. The rate that paper sets come out is fixed and MTG:PQ follows that, so the only ways I can see to fix that is to:
1) not follow paper sets at all
2) not make a MTG:PQ set for every paper set
3) not make as many cards per set
Personally, I wouldn't mind option 3. I don't really see the other two options as viable.

As for coalition events, I am in favor or as much variety as possible, so I don't mind rehashing old events if it means that we aren't playing the same event over and over.

Just my opinions. I am eager to hear other viewpoints as well!

ambrosio191

The pace of set release coupled with the lack of availability of packs from those sets has absolutely reduced my interest in the game. Right now, the only way to reliably get packs of the new set is through Totp. We arent getting them from coalition events, and if there is a set specific event we are lucky to see it twice before the new set drops.

I dont care about having every card, but the amount of cards Im missing with each set rotation is steadily growing. I used to be able to get all the commons and uncommons from playing before a set rotated. Now i'm missing 8-10 of each from duskmourn, and 4-5 of each from bloomburrow. At least for me, missing more and more cards doesnt incentivize me to spend money to catch up, it just pushes me away.

I agree with machine, there are so many cool events, yet we see the same ones again and again. Plus they are events from like the first 2 years of this game. I personally am tied of playing duets of mana twice a week.

Janosik

@ambrosio191 said:
The pace of set release coupled with the lack of availability of packs from those sets has absolutely reduced my interest in the game. Right now, the only way to reliably get packs of the new set is through Totp. We arent getting them from coalition events, and if there is a set specific event we are lucky to see it twice before the new set drops.

Didn't Revolving Planeswalk use to update to give packs from the latest set at one point? Isn't that why why have different versions of RevP with DMU, BRO, and ONE?

Did Oktagon say that they'd intentionally stopped updating RevP, or did they just forget to update it, and then Webcore took over and assumed that was the way it was supposed to be?

ambrosio191

I dont think Oktagon ever committed to Revolving Planeswalker staying current with the latest set. All they did was create new versions of it for that block of sets.

Machine

@ambrosio191 said:
The pace of set release coupled with the lack of availability of packs from those sets has absolutely reduced my interest in the game. Right now, the only way to reliably get packs of the new set is through Totp. We arent getting them from coalition events, and if there is a set specific event we are lucky to see it twice before the new set drops.

I dont care about having every card, but the amount of cards Im missing with each set rotation is steadily growing. I used to be able to get all the commons and uncommons from playing before a set rotated. Now i'm missing 8-10 of each from duskmourn, and 4-5 of each from bloomburrow. At least for me, missing more and more cards doesnt incentivize me to spend money to catch up, it just pushes me away.

I agree with machine, there are so many cool events, yet we see the same ones again and again. Plus they are events from like the first 2 years of this game. I personally am tied of playing duets of mana twice a week.

Not every set brought out in paper was transferred to PQ. The devs deciding to add Foundations to the mix just put more emphasis on what is being stated here. I agree that availability of events that award boosters from the last few sets (or their lack thereof) is fueling this feeling.

I really don't understand why Revolving Planeswalk keeps running in its current state; it hands out the oldest sets available in standard. I think most of the community would be happy to see this event either updated or replaced by another daily event that hands out boosters from newer sets.

naabaldan

First of all:
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/91249/creatures-of-magic#latest
Offers 4 fdn booster for 5 matches.
Fbthp another one on a weekly basis.
The amount and frequency of events is much higher than it ever was before. Especially the bfta event appears several times in contrast to the prior webcore time.

Webcore is doing a great job providing us with things we need. They ARE listening.

So far, so good.

Webcore also managed to keep up with paper, no more 6+ weeks to wait until paper finds its way to mtgpq. Wonderful. Great job!

The downside is: too many sets in a limited number of months, making it impossible to collect all cards in time prior to the next release.

PM2 will take months or even years to complete or 1000 Euros regular or 700 Euros on gold sale in case you are willing to spend money

Other sets with regards to their size may take 2 to 3 month with vip to complete.
Without vip, it clearly relays on crafting resources to complete a set. And those are very limited to newer players, while veteran players are happy to spend some. The newest set, of course, is not craftable...

Events are another way to get new cards, but they are very luck dependent, and event rewards are only available for those who are already able to compete in a reasonable amount.

The fastest way to complete a set is paying money.

This game is completely added free. You can watch an ad to get resources. But this is limited too.

There are tons of apps annoying us with ads, so I am very happy that these games don't.

In case you are a free to play user paying no real money for this game, you will not be able to collect all cards no matter how hard you try.

Those who are willing to spend money have better chances depending on the amount. The developers fully depend on this income.

The games cardset contains 8517 regular cards plus 711 full art cards.
There are also 15 hidden cards from the hydra event summing up to 9243 cards.

Almost 100 full arts are currently not made available via fblthp, and it looks like this number is growing faster than fblthp can provide them to us in an affordable manner.

My main account is holding 9114 cards and is more than 8 years old, while an account created 8 months ago holds only 1112 cards with 1001 commons and uncommon.

This describes perfectly the gap between new players and veterans. Players are paying real money and those who don't.

I have no solution for this issue. I know the Arena offers a solid base of common and uncommon cards to new players.
I have also suggested offering special booster containing like 50 to 100 commons and uncommons in standard or legacy.

I think the current close release of sets was an exception, and with 2025, everything goes normal again.

Use the time until the next set to open as many boosters as possible and craft as many cards as possible because we all love to find or most wanted cards this way.

Good luck to everyone.

Janosik

We'll probably get less sets in 2025

We've never had Universes Beyond sets in MTGPQ before (presumably because of licensing), and Universes Beyond sets are being folded into Standard rotation next year

ambrosio191

@naabaldan said:
First of all:
https://forums.d3go.com/discussion/91249/creatures-of-magic#latest
Offers 4 fdn booster for 5 matches.
Fbthp another one on a weekly basis.
The amount and frequency of events is much higher than it ever was before. Especially the bfta event appears several times in contrast to the prior webcore time.

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Good luck to everyone.

I loved creatures of magic. It's also only been run once. I'll be honest and say I dont and havent checked the events schedule for the next week or so, but if it's not being run, it's exactly what I said earlier. We get new events with the new sets (sometimes a month later), but they only run one or two times while the set is new.

While it got stale fast, a long time ago we used to play the same coalition event every single weekend that awarded the newest set. This combined with set releases being several months apart meant it was reasonable to get at least the commons and uncommons just from playing the game. That is no longer the case. Now our newest coalition events dont even award the latest set.