How big of a data suck is this game

slidecage

how good of a pc is this

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-17-3-full-hd-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-8gb-memory-512gb-ssd-natural-silver/6587274.p?skuId=6587274

Phumade

These aren't bad PCs, but its also on the back 1/2 of the technology cycle for that generation. Old for what would be commericially sold, but still fully usable with an OS that receives regular development and security updates. You can reasonably expect software updates for at least 5 years, so its fine for home users.

$399 is a decent price. In Aliexpress terms, (dealing with the manufacturers), you would expect to pay around 275 no monitor or keyboard.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807996075963.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.11ed64c9aSmM7N&aem_p4p_detail=20250125061629126691663193040004067143&algo_pvid=fbf7b3c0-5585-4080-a04f-43c4ade46cd7&algo_exp_id=fbf7b3c0-5585-4080-a04f-43c4ade46cd7-7&pdp_ext_f={"order":"-1","eval":"1"}&pdp_npi=4@dis!USD!332.72!226.25!!!2411.00!1639.48!@2103010e17378145889145130e1d77!12000044142027499!sea!US!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=EKi4lBtU5JLV&utparam-url=scene:search|query_from:&search_p4p_id=20250125061629126691663193040004067143_2

While I'm not at all advocating buy this machine or any hardware from Aliexpress, its a good pricing guide for what OEM manufacturers expect. If you look at the hp (amd 7430) vs generic 'nuc (amd 6600), the hp cpu is just 1 manufacturing cycle newer, and next year, the hp specs will be the default specs sold by the OEMs who are essentially using new stock that wasn't sold into laptop manufacturing into special purpose minicomputers.

The real criticism is that the laptop case assembly/construction is gonna be an order of magnitude worse than the workstation/engineering standard laptop. The real test is goto any best buy grab the laptop and flex it/twist it. you'll feel the flex and give on cheap consumer grade hardware, that won't be present in Prosumer or higher grades of retail products. The 2nd knock is the trackpad always glazes away from finger/hand oils. Thats not a big deal when you can buy replacement keyboard/mice. As a comparison, even cheap android phone/tablets use touch on a glass screen. Simply take out any old phone and compare it the touchpad/trackpad on a 3 to 4 year old pc. You'll see the glass interface looks immaculate compared to an old used trackpad. (even macbooks suffer from this issue)

tldr If you need to buy a laptop, then this a resonable purchase that won't become software obsolete for at least 5 years.

Phumade

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805581557141.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.11ed64c9aSmM7N&aem_p4p_detail=20250125061629126691663193040004067143&algo_pvid=fbf7b3c0-5585-4080-a04f-43c4ade46cd7&algo_exp_id=fbf7b3c0-5585-4080-a04f-43c4ade46cd7-11&pdp_ext_f={"order":"1","eval":"1"}&pdp_npi=4@dis!USD!336.26!174.86!!!336.26!174.86!@2103010e17378145889145130e1d77!12000036832031641!sea!US!0!ABX&curPageLogUid=gQuXQfHqnOrp&utparam-url=scene:search|query_from:&search_p4p_id=20250125061629126691663193040004067143_3

Actually this version has the same processor, so you can see that hardware "tier" is in the 280 price range. No keyboard/mouse/monitor.

These are all reasonable equivalent PC parts. These components could have easily been used by hp asus, whoever. just happens that this batch got made into mini computersever

KGB

@Phumade said:
The real criticism is that the laptop case assembly/construction is gonna be an order of magnitude worse than the workstation/engineering standard laptop. The real test is goto any best buy grab the laptop and flex it/twist it. you'll feel the flex and give on cheap consumer grade hardware, that won't be present in Prosumer or higher grades of retail products. The 2nd knock is the trackpad always glazes away from finger/hand oils. Thats not a big deal when you can buy replacement keyboard/mice. As a comparison, even cheap android phone/tablets use touch on a glass screen. Simply take out any old phone and compare it the touchpad/trackpad on a 3 to 4 year old pc. You'll see the glass interface looks immaculate compared to an old used trackpad. (even macbooks suffer from this issue)

This is a very valid point.

Slidecage, how are you planning to use this laptop? Are you going to sit with it in your lap like a tablet or have it on a PC desk and use the laptop keyboard/keypad? If you are, the points Phumade really matter. But if you plan to attach a 24 inch plus monitor and your own USB keyboard/mouse so that the laptop itself just 'sits' there way out of the way like a workstation and never gets touched they it doesn't matter near as much.

KGB

slidecage

@KGB said:

@Phumade said:
The real criticism is that the laptop case assembly/construction is gonna be an order of magnitude worse than the workstation/engineering standard laptop. The real test is goto any best buy grab the laptop and flex it/twist it. you'll feel the flex and give on cheap consumer grade hardware, that won't be present in Prosumer or higher grades of retail products. The 2nd knock is the trackpad always glazes away from finger/hand oils. Thats not a big deal when you can buy replacement keyboard/mice. As a comparison, even cheap android phone/tablets use touch on a glass screen. Simply take out any old phone and compare it the touchpad/trackpad on a 3 to 4 year old pc. You'll see the glass interface looks immaculate compared to an old used trackpad. (even macbooks suffer from this issue)

This is a very valid point.

Slidecage, how are you planning to use this laptop? Are you going to sit with it in your lap like a tablet or have it on a PC desk and use the laptop keyboard/keypad? If you are, the points Phumade really matter. But if you plan to attach a 24 inch plus monitor and your own USB keyboard/mouse so that the laptop itself just 'sits' there way out of the way like a workstation and never gets touched they it doesn't matter near as much.

KGB

I need a good cheap laptop cause right now don't have a place to put a PC at new house. Laptop I can put on kitchen table.

I might just use my 256gb tablet