Marvel Zombies Store with Increased 5 Star Odds

KGB

Odds are 1/5 vs 1/7 for Latest/Classics.

Cable/Daredevil/Elektra/Phoenix/Bruce Banner/May Parker are the 6 featured 5 star characters in this vault.

Anyone drawing because of the increased odds or are those characters not good enough to bother?

I'm thinking of pulling just because of the increased odds even if these are all lesser characters. There's 28 days to decide so no real rush and I wonder if the characters change during the time this store is available. Anyone know?

KGB

JaGo

I have them all baby champed except for Elektra and while she’s decent I am just not that compelled to pull in the slight chance I get a few of her covers.

-JaGo

WhiteBomber

The other one with the top tier characters is also 1/4 I believe. I pulled from the reject vault you mentioned since most of those 5's are lower level for me.

Scofie

I'd not spotted the different odds.
So 1000CP would give you on average:
Zombies: 8 x 5☆, 32 x 4☆
Fan Favourites: 10 x 5☆ , 30 x 4☆
Classics: 6 x 5☆, 44 x 4☆
Latest: 7 x 5☆, 33 x 4☆

Effectively you're trading 2x 5☆ for 12x 4☆ when pulling Zombies v Classics or 4x 5☆ for 14x 4☆ when pulling Fan Favourites v Classics, not including additional bonus shards from the 10 additional pulls.

KGB

@Scofie said:
I'd not spotted the different odds.
So 1000CP would give you on average:
Zombies: 8 x 5☆, 32 x 4☆
Fan Favourites: 10 x 5☆ , 30 x 4☆
Classics: 6 x 5☆, 44 x 4☆
Latest: 7 x 5☆, 33 x 4☆

Effectively you're trading 2x 5☆ for 12x 4☆ when pulling Zombies v Classics or 4x 5☆ for 14x 4☆ when pulling Fan Favourites v Classics, not including additional bonus shards from the 10 additional pulls.

I think your math is slightly off on Classics/Latest.

In Latest you should get 40.15=6 5s and 34 4s.
In Classics you should get 50.15= 7.5 5s and 32.5 4s.

Fan Favorites gives you the most 5s then Zombies.

KGB

trenchdigger

When did they drop the odds in classics from 1 in 6 to 1 in 8?

I know it was 1 in 6 back in May when BRB, Wong and Scarlett Witch were the 3 5s with higher odds but I haven't pulled from Classics since and therefore hadn't spotted the change.

@KGB 50 Classics gives you 6.25 5s at 1in8. Previously it would have been 8.3 5s at 1 in 6.

Scofie

@KGB said:

@Scofie said:
I'd not spotted the different odds.
So 1000CP would give you on average:
Zombies: 8 x 5☆, 32 x 4☆
Fan Favourites: 10 x 5☆ , 30 x 4☆
Classics: 6 x 5☆, 44 x 4☆
Latest: 7 x 5☆, 33 x 4☆

Effectively you're trading 2x 5☆ for 12x 4☆ when pulling Zombies v Classics or 4x 5☆ for 14x 4☆ when pulling Fan Favourites v Classics, not including additional bonus shards from the 10 additional pulls.

I think your math is slightly off on Classics/Latest.

In Latest you should get 40.15=6 5s and 34 4s.
In Classics you should get 50.15= 7.5 5s and 32.5 4s.

Fan Favorites gives you the most 5s then Zombies.

KGB

Yes, indeed it is! I changed it once already after working out the wrong odds for Classics. Long day. 😴

Edit: Just looked again, Classics are 1:8 so 6.25/50 pulls.

WhiteBomber

@trenchdigger said:
When did they drop the odds in classics from 1 in 6 to 1 in 8?

I know it was 1 in 6 back in May when BRB, Wong and Scarlett Witch were the 3 5s with higher odds but I haven't pulled from Classics since and therefore hadn't spotted the change.

@KGB 50 Classics gives you 6.25 5s at 1in8. Previously it would have been 8.3 5s at 1 in 6.

It did feel like I have been getting way less 5's from there. If they made that change stealth, those are some seriously dirty, skeevy tactics. I have been dumping all CP in to that one for a year or so.

JoeHandle

@WhiteBomber said:

@trenchdigger said:
When did they drop the odds in classics from 1 in 6 to 1 in 8?

I know it was 1 in 6 back in May when BRB, Wong and Scarlett Witch were the 3 5s with higher odds but I haven't pulled from Classics since and therefore hadn't spotted the change.

@KGB 50 Classics gives you 6.25 5s at 1in8. Previously it would have been 8.3 5s at 1 in 6.

It did feel like I have been getting way less 5's from there. If they made that change stealth, those are some seriously dirty, skeevy tactics. I have been dumping all CP in to that one for a year or so.

It was not ... uhhh ... "highlighted". I pull classics with CP, unless there are other better alternatives to use CP on, as there are right now. Each season I check the odds and who's boosted. The downgrade to 1/8 just ..... happened.

As for the OP's question ... the selections of 5s in the Zombie tokens, as well as the selections of 4s that are boosted in them ... is gawdawful. Unless you just happen to need more of them to get them champed, no one should pull these, IMO. May Parker is ok when boosted. Phoenix is OK, can build synergy around her. Banner not as bad as used to be. Cable, Daredevil, Elektra ... various varieties of ****, but all ****.

If you know anyone whose 1-2yrs in game, been piling up CP and wondering when to take the dive into 4s and 5s, the time is NAOW, dump that CP mountain onto the Fan Favorites tokens. 25% 5*s, 75% meta 4s??? The least diluted legendary tokens this game has offered since 2016. Seriously. Shove all the CP into the slot, and keep doing so until this store disappears.

Family Legends ... ehh, if that selection of chars fits your roster better ... if you already have Shang, Kang and OML over 500 or even higher (like I do ...) ... then ... these are an option, I guess.

Headpool tokens, the 15CPers ... if you want general roster progress while forcefeeding as many shards onto 4* and 5* favorites as you can, here you go. These are the ones I'm hitting, about 6,000CP worth so far. Good times.

Ran some numbers to verify that choice, here's what I came up with, what to expect from my intial 4,500CP pull. Posted to Reddit, crosspost here, why not.

bluewolf

I do not know if the 1:8 odds on Classics are a result of the devs deciding to move a 20 CP token more in the category of "gives you 4* characters" or a result of the sheer volume of characters pushing us into more skewed odds for some reason, but moving from 1:6 to 1:8 is a big jump.

I wonder if it's possible that there will be more permanent constrained CP stores in the future with only 3 featured 5s as an option for people to chase specific characters and hence they moved this store more into the zone of "pulling for 4s".

The odds for the featured 5s are now "17X" and for the 4s they are "29X". I assume the odds of getting those featured characters remains the same as before?

It is possible that to hold steady the chance of getting one of the featured 5s at 3% they needed to make the overall rate of 5s lower?

JoeHandle

@bluewolf said:
It is possible that to hold steady the chance of getting one of the featured 5s at 3% they needed to make the overall rate of 5s lower?

If so, that would have been a choice not a mathematical necessity. They could have instead kept tuning up the ##x odds boost as characters continue to pile into (dilute) the tokens.