2 to 5 Electro Stats?

WhiteBomber

I've looked around and haven't seen them, does anyone know em?

Trying to determine if the 4star ascended purchase is worth it. I know it's worth the amount of covers it would take to get him there, but if his stats aren't good it's not worth it to me personally.

entrailbucket

@WhiteBomber said:
I've looked around and haven't seen them, does anyone know em?

Trying to determine if the 4star ascended purchase is worth it. I know it's worth the amount of covers it would take to get him there, but if his stats aren't good it's not worth it to me personally.

Mine isn't even close!

I think you'd need to hear from one of the players with sandbox accounts...I don't think anyone legit has him.

WhiteBomber

Yeah, I am hoping for one of them, I don't know who has those accounts though. I've seen someone post a few times... was it @SourCream?

ProfShoehorn

Best I can do for you is the Electros I currently got. I lucked out and pulled the 4-star from the intro vault.

First, my 2-star version (Level 142):

Now, the 4-star (Level 271):

Hope that helps.

WhiteBomber

Thanks, I appreciate it @ProfShoehorn. The damage on the 4 star being barely any different than the 2 star really doesn't inspire hope for the 5. Still a cool character, damage just isn't his thing.

I didn't buy the ascended 4 star due to lack of hope, but if ever anyone gets him there I would love to see the stats!

entrailbucket

@WhiteBomber said:
Thanks, I appreciate it @ProfShoehorn. The damage on the 4 star being barely any different than the 2 star really doesn't inspire hope for the 5. Still a cool character, damage just isn't his thing.

I didn't buy the ascended 4 star due to lack of hope, but if ever anyone gets him there I would love to see the stats!

Eh, as we've seen, 4* and 5* versions can diverge pretty widely. I wouldn't judge the 5* off the 4* version at all.

WhiteBomber

They sure can, but I would say the wins do not outweigh the lackluster, especially not enough to say "here's $25 to get less than half way to finding out."

WhiteBomber

I think we are pretty confident they know those stats, it's almost suspicious to not just have access to them. I like a surprise as much as the next guy, but not when that surprise is, everything other than health and match damage got worse (not saying that is the case here, but I imagine you get it).

entrailbucket

@WhiteBomber said:
They sure can, but I would say the wins do not outweigh the lackluster, especially not enough to say "here's $25 to get less than half way to finding out."

Nope. You're thinking of the common complaints first -- tons of posters here are mad about Iron May and Patriot lately.

I'm thinking about, like, IM40's red doing an unboosted 50k base at 450, or Mantis's CD tile doing an unboosted 100k or Daken's blue at 50k base.

The number of ascended "losers" is tiny compared to the massive winners.

ProfShoehorn

@WhiteBomber No problem.

To be somewhat fair (since I did get around to comparing the two while I was pulling the data), my 2-star is near max and I only (accidentally) feed one champ level into my 4-star. The champ level scaling may make him “good” when near max champ level. Also, firing the black power once for the 4-star version guarantees you all 5 amps, so it isn’t that hard to get the +40% damage and damage reduction. Still may not be amazing, but there could be something there.

I guess I’ll find out more once I can start feeding the 4-star (I wanted to get the 2-star maxed out first to stop the “you got multiple characters you can feed with this cover” warning).

WhiteBomber

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:
They sure can, but I would say the wins do not outweigh the lackluster, especially not enough to say "here's $25 to get less than half way to finding out."

Nope. You're thinking of the common complaints first -- tons of posters here are mad about Iron May and Patriot lately.

I'm thinking about, like, IM40's red doing an unboosted 50k base at 450, or Mantis's CD tile doing an unboosted 100k or Daken's blue at 50k base.

The number of ascended "losers" is tiny compared to the massive winners.

I'm not really taking in to account what people have said, rather doing the research myself. I've looked through the vast majority of ascended 4stars plus whatever else people have available, and though I'm not writing them all down, I think we are just going to have to disagree on this one.

Clearly the 2 and 3stars are much more rare and we might not see some for a while, but my observation thus far is (in my opinion), that even though most naturally got "better", less than 50% of them shot beyond lackluster.

entrailbucket

@WhiteBomber said:

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:
They sure can, but I would say the wins do not outweigh the lackluster, especially not enough to say "here's $25 to get less than half way to finding out."

Nope. You're thinking of the common complaints first -- tons of posters here are mad about Iron May and Patriot lately.

I'm thinking about, like, IM40's red doing an unboosted 50k base at 450, or Mantis's CD tile doing an unboosted 100k or Daken's blue at 50k base.

The number of ascended "losers" is tiny compared to the massive winners.

I'm not really taking in to account what people have said, rather doing the research myself. I've looked through the vast majority of ascended 4stars plus whatever else people have available, and though I'm not writing them all down, I think we are just going to have to disagree on this one.

Clearly the 2 and 3stars are much more rare and we might not see some for a while, but my observation thus far is (in my opinion), that even though most naturally got "better", less than 50% of them shot beyond lackluster.

I have all these guys (literally) and use all these guys regularly and this couldn't be any more wrong. I'm not sure what your criteria for "lackluster" is, but I disagree very strongly that more than half of ascended characters are weak.

revskip

@ProfShoehorn said:
@WhiteBomber No problem.

To be somewhat fair (since I did get around to comparing the two while I was pulling the data), my 2-star is near max and I only (accidentally) feed one champ level into my 4-star. The champ level scaling may make him “good” when near max champ level. Also, firing the black power once for the 4-star version guarantees you all 5 amps, so it isn’t that hard to get the +40% damage and damage reduction. Still may not be amazing, but there could be something there.

I guess I’ll find out more once I can start feeding the 4-star (I wanted to get the 2-star maxed out first to stop the “you got multiple characters you can feed with this cover” warning).

Good to know I'm not the only one who does that. I'm usually all about reward efficiency but I find myself eschewing some jumps in reward tiers to save on button clicks. Like I had 1* Spiderman available to level with covers at both 3* and 2* levels and finished off the 2* so I wouldn't have to see the choose your dude screen.

JoeHandle

@ProfShoehorn said:
@WhiteBomber No problem.

To be somewhat fair (since I did get around to comparing the two while I was pulling the data), my 2-star is near max and I only (accidentally) feed one champ level into my 4-star. The champ level scaling may make him “good” when near max champ level. Also, firing the black power once for the 4-star version guarantees you all 5 amps, so it isn’t that hard to get the +40% damage and damage reduction. Still may not be amazing, but there could be something there.

** I guess I’ll find out more once I can start feeding the 4-star (I wanted to get the 2-star maxed out first to stop the “you got multiple characters you can feed with this cover” warning).**

Stop applying covers from the vine. Use the main roster screen instead. Won't ever see that "warning" there!

JoeHandle

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:
They sure can, but I would say the wins do not outweigh the lackluster, especially not enough to say "here's $25 to get less than half way to finding out."

Nope. You're thinking of the common complaints first -- tons of posters here are mad about Iron May and Patriot lately.

I'm thinking about, like, IM40's red doing an unboosted 50k base at 450, or Mantis's CD tile doing an unboosted 100k or Daken's blue at 50k base.

The number of ascended "losers" is tiny compared to the massive winners.

I'm not really taking in to account what people have said, rather doing the research myself. I've looked through the vast majority of ascended 4stars plus whatever else people have available, and though I'm not writing them all down, I think we are just going to have to disagree on this one.

Clearly the 2 and 3stars are much more rare and we might not see some for a while, but my observation thus far is (in my opinion), that even though most naturally got "better", less than 50% of them shot beyond lackluster.

I have all these guys (literally) and use all these guys regularly and this couldn't be any more wrong. I'm not sure what your criteria for "lackluster" is, but I disagree very strongly that more than half of ascended characters are weak.

Well, I'm "not writing them all down" but I'm definitely on a solid foundation when making concerete assertions in terms of cold statistics, you see!

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Whole thread belongs in Character Discussion.

Borstock

I have to go with entrail on this one. I play in 5* land and I fear in time it will be totally taken over by ascended versions of lower tier characters. As it is, I see 1*-5s all over the place. Some of the 2s don't seem great, but the 3s... Oh boy.

entrailbucket

@Borstock said:
I have to go with entrail on this one. I play in 5* land and I fear in time it will be totally taken over by ascended versions of lower tier characters. As it is, I see 1*-5s all over the place. Some of the 2s don't seem great, but the 3s... Oh boy.

All the 2* damage dealers are very strong. Ares, Daken, Wolverine, Human Torch, etc are all very usable at high levels.
There's a bunch of 2* "utility" characters (I guess? Dunno what to call them) like Magneto, Hawkeye or Captain Marvel that get a ton of HP and match damage but don't benefit much power-wise.

WhiteBomber

@JoeHandle said:

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:

@entrailbucket said:

@WhiteBomber said:
They sure can, but I would say the wins do not outweigh the lackluster, especially not enough to say "here's $25 to get less than half way to finding out."

Nope. You're thinking of the common complaints first -- tons of posters here are mad about Iron May and Patriot lately.

I'm thinking about, like, IM40's red doing an unboosted 50k base at 450, or Mantis's CD tile doing an unboosted 100k or Daken's blue at 50k base.

The number of ascended "losers" is tiny compared to the massive winners.

I'm not really taking in to account what people have said, rather doing the research myself. I've looked through the vast majority of ascended 4stars plus whatever else people have available, and though I'm not writing them all down, I think we are just going to have to disagree on this one.

Clearly the 2 and 3stars are much more rare and we might not see some for a while, but my observation thus far is (in my opinion), that even though most naturally got "better", less than 50% of them shot beyond lackluster.

I have all these guys (literally) and use all these guys regularly and this couldn't be any more wrong. I'm not sure what your criteria for "lackluster" is, but I disagree very strongly that more than half of ascended characters are weak.

Well, I'm "not writing them all down" but I'm definitely on a solid foundation when making concerete assertions in terms of cold statistics, you see!

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Whole thread belongs in Character Discussion.

My apologies if my opinion offended you, next time though maybe just a DM, or try to insult me in the middle of some sort of info contributing to the topic, it's the least you could do. I'm sure EB will still be there for you if you just tell them what you messaged me.

Borstock

@entrailbucket said:

@Borstock said:
I have to go with entrail on this one. I play in 5* land and I fear in time it will be totally taken over by ascended versions of lower tier characters. As it is, I see 1*-5s all over the place. Some of the 2s don't seem great, but the 3s... Oh boy.

All the 2* damage dealers are very strong. Ares, Daken, Wolverine, Human Torch, etc are all very usable at high levels.
There's a bunch of 2* "utility" characters (I guess? Dunno what to call them) like Magneto, Hawkeye or Captain Marvel that get a ton of HP and match damage but don't benefit much power-wise.

Eh. You're probably right, but a lot of the 2s are kind of just lower level versions of the 3s; Thor, Torch, Daken, Storm (sort of)... And since you can't favorite a 2, and the entire category is being diluted by new releases, I'd rather just concentrate on the 3s.

entrailbucket

@Borstock said:

@entrailbucket said:

@Borstock said:
I have to go with entrail on this one. I play in 5* land and I fear in time it will be totally taken over by ascended versions of lower tier characters. As it is, I see 1*-5s all over the place. Some of the 2s don't seem great, but the 3s... Oh boy.

All the 2* damage dealers are very strong. Ares, Daken, Wolverine, Human Torch, etc are all very usable at high levels.
There's a bunch of 2* "utility" characters (I guess? Dunno what to call them) like Magneto, Hawkeye or Captain Marvel that get a ton of HP and match damage but don't benefit much power-wise.

Eh. You're probably right, but a lot of the 2s are kind of just lower level versions of the 3s; Thor, Torch, Daken, Storm (sort of)... And since you can't favorite a 2, and the entire category is being diluted by new releases, I'd rather just concentrate on the 3s.

Oh, I wouldn't concentrate on the 2*. I'm not even sure how you could do that! They'll happen eventually though, if you keep ascending them, and a bunch of them are useful.

slidecage

How about 2 star nightcrawler accended to 5. Would he be worth ,25