You fall into the Dragon's Nest... you're screwed

Wolftelope9090
Wolftelope9090 Posts: 6 Just Dropped In
edited May 2023 in MtGPQ Events

There are hard events and hard fights, I get it... but this section of the You've Found an Entrance is just UNFAIR

Dragon's Nest is easily the WORST fight you can get into. "Mama Dragon" starts with a full hand, 4 cards with at least 5 mana, Tiamat on the field and an undestructable event that makes all enemy dragons enter hasted and reinforced and when you manage to kill one, a replacement (or up to 3, in Tiamat's case). They get replaced by a "token", more powerful (but mercifully non-reinforced) dragon. Worst offender is, when you get rid of a Green Dragon, FREAKING OLD GNAWBONE enters into the fray!! AAAAAAUUUUUGH!!!!

Somebody out there may say "Hey, you can play Leyline of Singularity and prevent the tokens". Yeah, I TRIED THAT ALREADY

Problem is, the replacement dragons get summoned first and then the "token" suffix appears. That makes the Leyline to miss the timing and it cannot save you from the dragons!!

Has somebody, anybody, ACTUALLY TESTED the fight before launching the event? Probably this event is 3+ years old at this date, but then... somebody has surely complained about it in this forum.

Seriously, this event NEEDS to be fixed.

And I thought that the Equipment Room before was trouble... Dragon's Nest is 100 times worse!!

At least Vecna is a fair fight if you arrive there with a maxed planeswalker... just run destruction-based removal and you're golden. But Dragon's Nest... is truly a pest.

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  • purvisa
    purvisa Posts: 7 Just Dropped In

    Disable and can’t attack are simple solutions.

  • Kahmon
    Kahmon Posts: 625 Critical Contributor

    It took me several tries, but I beat it by zerging with Toxic creatures.
    Besides all the reasons it sucks listed by the OP, you can also add that once you beat it, you are stuck with it. Nothing new opened up for me after that very tough win.

  • fox1342_2
    fox1342_2 Posts: 37 Just Dropped In

    @Kahmon said:
    It took me several tries, but I beat it by zerging with Toxic creatures.
    Besides all the reasons it sucks listed by the OP, you can also add that once you beat it, you are stuck with it. Nothing new opened up for me after that very tough win.

    You don't have to just win, you also have to fulfill the secondary objectives, in this case cast 4 creatures with flying. Once you've done that you have Bard's Tale to complete and then all the levels open up for the remaining progression rewards.

    My most amusing solution is to play with "Sandwurm convergence" which stops all opponents flying creatures from attacking. But the common "Sigarda's imprisonment" can also be very powerful here.

  • Metroplex78
    Metroplex78 Posts: 74 Match Maker

    True, everytime they run this event I try my best to skip that part by making sure I get Vecna's room instead.
    They should make it a fair fight, that means Mama Dragon does not begin with full mana to cast her cards.
    You can Sigarda the dragons but Mama will just kill and replace them with a new one, a very unfair fight if ever was one.

  • Tolkne
    Tolkne Posts: 17 Just Dropped In

    If you have an Omniscience card and a Totem creature (which draws a support card), and Atraxa, and... Whir

    That's all, with this you can close it in an endless circle and in this way you can defeat these dragons.

  • ChewableTrash
    ChewableTrash Posts: 21 Just Dropped In

    For reference

  • LordX33N
    LordX33N Posts: 5 Just Dropped In

    My strategy was winning with the first condition every time to avoid the Dragon's Nest. Your great map of the dungeon is validating my strategy :D

    tiktok.com/@lord_x33n

  • wraszowixuXuxi
    wraszowixuXuxi Posts: 72 Match Maker

    @LordX33N said:
    My strategy was winning with the first condition every time to avoid the Dragon's Nest. Your great map of the dungeon is validating my strategy :D

    tiktok.com/@lord_x33n

    @ChewableTrash said:

    For reference

    Another way to think of it: Only complete each objective that is the least set- or collection-dependent. Go with no dice as if you just joined you likely would not have the role 20 mechanics in your collection. Just joined, then you might not have many creatures with evasion like trample, so play with less of those. No dungeon cards? Bueno!

    Pit trap may seem a little less intuitive as you seem to be needing to do more with more creatures, but consider that if you are beating the battle with less creatures than that then they may likely be more powerful ones and thus less likely that you'd have got yet. I could see that with the issue of Dragon Turtle and Rope making a creature dependent strategy less comfortable that you might want to go creatureless, but you could maybe still do like a Wizard Class loop strat (if you have it) with like Foundry of the Consuls thrown in. It makes 4 creatures a pop with a colorless spell, and figure something with that.

    After you do that and get to the Bosses (Summoning Vecna hopefully, with this strategy) then if you can at least win the battle, even without objectives met (you might not get a god creature down to kill), then you are at the point were battles can be repeated where they still count towards your progression in rewards. (Considering it as an EvReFRes, or Events Replayable For Rewards).

  • wraszowixuXuxi
    wraszowixuXuxi Posts: 72 Match Maker

    On that note, if you do find yourself with the Dragons' Nest, then if you can figure a strategy to win without the objectives met, it is repeatable there as well, however painful that may be.

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