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Speed283
Speed283 Posts: 123 Tile Toppler
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Should I spend my LL tokens on Hit-monkey or save them for Wong?
Thanks for the help!

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  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards
    edited January 2023

    It doesn't have to be an either-or situation because they will be in LL at the same time next season.
    The current rotation, ordered based on who will be going out next, is

    1. Arcade
    2. Riri
    3. Hit-Monkey
    4. Wong

    A lot of players would probably ask you to skip arcade and wait for the next 5* to be revealed. Meanwhile, you can get their 1 cover equivalent of shards in pve via progression/placement while saving up your LTs.

  • Speed283
    Speed283 Posts: 123 Tile Toppler

    Hey Hound: when is next season?

  • HoundofShadow
    HoundofShadow Posts: 8,004 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't know when exactly the next season is. It's probably the number of days the current season has left + ~10 days.

    Hit Monkey is a counter to Chasm/iHulk or the revive mechanic. Depending on what upcoming change(s) the dev has up their sleeves for this meta team, Hit Monkey might or might not be useful.

    In terms of fun, Wong's mechanics have "fun" written all over his abilities. Hit Monkey's powers are pretty straightforward.

  • Speed283
    Speed283 Posts: 123 Tile Toppler

    I tried for hit monkey and got arcade. Guess I’ll stop trying for now. Thanks again

  • Speed283
    Speed283 Posts: 123 Tile Toppler

    The characters in the LL tokens seem useless. Does anyone know when there will be someone in the vault that will be someone we can use our tokens on?
    Thanks I have over 700

  • Borstock
    Borstock Posts: 2,733 Chairperson of the Boards

    I don't like Victor, so your guess is as good as mine. I've pulled a few classics just for the heck of it, but I have close to 500 pulls and don't see myself pulling again for probably 3 months.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,816 Chairperson of the Boards

    Necro bump!

    Totally fair to start a new thread when considering a new set of 3. Each one really should be considered separately as characters rotate in and out.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 519 Critical Contributor
    edited 18 February 2024, 03:40

    @bluewolf said:
    Necro bump!

    Totally fair to start a new thread when considering a new set of 3. Each one really should be considered separately as characters rotate in and out.

    Yes, thanks for pointing that out. Was confusing for a sec!

    But now there's suspense! Did the OP get his Wong and Monkey? How did their hoarding a/o pulls unfold? Or have they quit and missed the rise of ascension? So many questions!

    @Speed283 said:
    The characters in the LL tokens seem useless.

    Accurate!

    @Speed283 said:
    Does anyone know ...

    Nope! Remember the waiting room from Beetlejuice ?

    @Speed283 said:
    Thanks I have over 700

    Great! Just keep saving, just keep saving ...

  • Speed283
    Speed283 Posts: 123 Tile Toppler

    Thanks, yes have monkey and Wong

  • Speed283
    Speed283 Posts: 123 Tile Toppler

    It seems like it has been a very long time since we have had a new character that has been worthy of spending LL tokens on.
    Is this going to change anytime soon? Getting frustrated with MPQ for some time now…actually thinking of quitting!

  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,811 Chairperson of the Boards

    Forget about 5*, they have. It's clearly been moved onto 5* that would've been upper mid tier before but now are released so they might be useable when boosted. While getting you to chase 4* and ascension.

    I've been saving forever because I just want one turn at pulling for 3x550 that are decent. But I admit that's a fools errand now and when I have everyone at 5* champed I should just pull classics and pump the 4*s.

    I'm just saving my CP now to see what the anniversary holds and then if there's still no 5* on the horizon I'm just going to pull classics and shard whoever I want to 550.

  • JoeHandle
    JoeHandle Posts: 519 Critical Contributor

    @Speed283 said:
    It seems like it has been a very long time since we have had a new character that has been worthy of spending LL tokens on.
    Is this going to change anytime soon? Getting frustrated with MPQ for some time now…actually thinking of quitting!

    You revive a 6mo old thread to tell us you missed the last 6mos?

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards

    Aunt May 5* was definitely worth it. The rest of been meh.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,816 Chairperson of the Boards

    @JoeHandle said:

    @Speed283 said:
    It seems like it has been a very long time since we have had a new character that has been worthy of spending LL tokens on.
    Is this going to change anytime soon? Getting frustrated with MPQ for some time now…actually thinking of quitting!

    You revive a 6mo old thread to tell us you missed the last 6mos?

    And they did it for the second time….

    The devs have specifically said they don’t want to move the meta. This is actually completely understandable because the current meta is based on passive characters who can win automatically unless you’re countering them. So “moving the meta” basically requires power creep to actually happen.

  • Tony_Foot
    Tony_Foot Posts: 1,811 Chairperson of the Boards

    @LavaManLee said:
    Aunt May 5* was definitely worth it. The rest of been meh.

    I just don't see her not getting fixed. With supports she's utterly broken in the game. They have spent a ton of dev time putting supports into pvp and I see them fixing her before they remove supports. I abused the strategy to hell when she was boosted and I doubt that's staying around.

    If she does I will regret not pulling for her. She though is the only one.

  • entrailbucket
    entrailbucket Posts: 5,820 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:

    @JoeHandle said:

    @Speed283 said:
    It seems like it has been a very long time since we have had a new character that has been worthy of spending LL tokens on.
    Is this going to change anytime soon? Getting frustrated with MPQ for some time now…actually thinking of quitting!

    You revive a 6mo old thread to tell us you missed the last 6mos?

    And they did it for the second time….

    The devs have specifically said they don’t want to move the meta. This is actually completely understandable because the current meta is based on passive characters who can win automatically unless you’re countering them. So “moving the meta” basically requires power creep to actually happen.

    I'm not confident that they could "move the meta" on purpose if they chose to.

    Partly that's because of what you're saying (the current top of the metagame is SO powerful that, like, what do you even do? a guy that passively instantly wins all fights without pressing any buttons?), but also because they really don't understand how we play or what's actually good.

  • ThaRoadWarrior
    ThaRoadWarrior Posts: 9,451 Chairperson of the Boards

    Chasm deliberately moved the meta, but in a very unfun mary sue kind of way.

  • LavaManLee
    LavaManLee Posts: 1,434 Chairperson of the Boards

    @entrailbucket said:
    but also because they really don't understand how we play or what's actually good.

    This. This 100%. It was the same problem with D3 and the same problem with BCS. They don't play the game as players so they don't understand it the same way we do. Yes, they play. But it's totally different.

  • bluewolf
    bluewolf Posts: 5,816 Chairperson of the Boards

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @LavaManLee said:
    Aunt May 5* was definitely worth it. The rest of been meh.

    I just don't see her not getting fixed. With supports she's utterly broken in the game. They have spent a ton of dev time putting supports into pvp and I see them fixing her before they remove supports. I abused the strategy to hell when she was boosted and I doubt that's staying around.

    If she does I will regret not pulling for her. She though is the only one.

    I don't see why they would do anything with Golden Oldie. She needs not just supports but boosts to be truly effective. As is, even at 550, you need to use those resources to do the clears.

    In PVP she wasn't particularly useful on defense, even on offense I had some matches that didn't go well due to the teams she was on, bad boards etc.

    Yeah, in PVE she's the goto for fast clears. I don't know that there's a need to address that since she's burning resources especially unboosted.

    The other thing is if you misjudge the amount of AP you need/have, you end up just slowly building again as she burned it all and you left people standing. In other words she's very good but requires very careful management as well as the mentioned boosts and things.

  • GrimSkald
    GrimSkald Posts: 2,639 Chairperson of the Boards

    @bluewolf said:

    @Tony_Foot said:

    @LavaManLee said:
    Aunt May 5* was definitely worth it. The rest of been meh.

    I just don't see her not getting fixed. With supports she's utterly broken in the game. They have spent a ton of dev time putting supports into pvp and I see them fixing her before they remove supports. I abused the strategy to hell when she was boosted and I doubt that's staying around.

    If she does I will regret not pulling for her. She though is the only one.

    I don't see why they would do anything with Golden Oldie. She needs not just supports but boosts to be truly effective. As is, even at 550, you need to use those resources to do the clears.

    In PVP she wasn't particularly useful on defense, even on offense I had some matches that didn't go well due to the teams she was on, bad boards etc.

    Yeah, in PVE she's the goto for fast clears. I don't know that there's a need to address that since she's burning resources especially unboosted.

    The other thing is if you misjudge the amount of AP you need/have, you end up just slowly building again as she burned it all and you left people standing. In other words she's very good but requires very careful management as well as the mentioned boosts and things.

    This is my experience as well - even my 550 Golden Oldie is only of so much use on the Challenge Node, wave nodes, and the 5* boosted node. She's pretty great everywhere else, but still requires those resources, which admittedly isn't much.

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