Daredevil217's 5* Character Ranking and Analysis 2.0 (Updated 06/20/2022)
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On the 4 characters that are missing from the list. Its to early to properly rank 2 of them Abigail and Elektra(Elektra is pretty good with her yellow and her purple which is interesting, while Abigail is just not good unless she is being used with Ronan or Hawkeye from the 5* Star tier then she is ok.) but Big Wheel is very good and fun to play and works very well with Shang Chi and anyone who helps with matches like Carnage while Sersi is just meh, She is just the definition of a support character. Sersi's yellow is good but I have never used the revive part of her passive. Her Purple is good but I dont understand what her Green even does. Every tyme I cast it i does something else. Also Big Wheel's green should do a little more damage. Ares Green with 6 AP deals more damage.
So on my rankings, I would place Big Wheel in the top 30 maybe top 20 while Sersi in the top 35 or 40.
NGL Big Wheel is Big Fun1 -
I think Big Wheel is maybe just below Onslaught on my personal list, even though mine is still 2/2/2. It’s a rare 5* these days who is playable unbuilt, and he is real fun with Shang-Chi. I’m still figuring Sersi teams out but I like her more than I expected to.1
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I imagine Phoenix should move up a fair bit after her recent buff. She was actually a threat in her PVP event and her green could end your entire team if you failed to kill her last and let her revive.
" having the worst match damage in the entire tier (especially when you want her tanking) hurts immensely."
she has higher match damage than apocalypse after her buff.1 -
Sheesh, I've been trying to get Wheelie on the Road of Champions but the game just doesn't want to give me covers. I kinda love everything about him: weird powers, giant steampunky graphic that is annoying yet appealing, goofy puns everywhere, sometimes very decent damage laid down unexpectedly because I can't keep track of his passive thing happening, etc,0
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How is Shang Chi so far down on this list? I agree with most of the rest of the rankings as I have nearly all of DD's top 10 champed (except for ProfX and Onslaught). 5Thor/Shang Chi/Big Wheel is faster than any Okoye or Apocalypse team I can field, more consistent and takes far less health packs. Only Hulkoye can sometimes be faster but that team sometimes is very inconsistent when a board dries up on green and uses a TON of healthpacks. Plus it has hard counters like Electro or Wanda.
Shang Chi has no hard counters. Colossus, simply means a few more matches on average. SW same with her retaliation damage unimportant since you can heal it all away. Killmonger is the closest with his ability to lock crits but even that isn't a hard counter.
Defensive PvP considerations are far overrated and are only a small consideration when climbing. At the highest levels of PvP it is all about speed, consistency and shields.
I do see that BW is not yet ranked but not sure if that really would change DD's ranking of SC.0 -
Djbob101 said:On the 4 characters that are missing from the list. Its to early to properly rank 2 of them Abigail and Elektra(Elektra is pretty good with her yellow and her purple which is interesting, while Abigail is just not good unless she is being used with Ronan or Hawkeye from the 5* Star tier then she is ok.) but Big Wheel is very good and fun to play and works very well with Shang Chi and anyone who helps with matches like Carnage while Sersi is just meh, She is just the definition of a support character. Sersi's yellow is good but I have never used the revive part of her passive. Her Purple is good but I dont understand what her Green even does. Every tyme I cast it i does something else. Also Big Wheel's green should do a little more damage. Ares Green with 6 AP deals more damage.
So on my rankings, I would place Big Wheel in the top 30 maybe top 20 while Sersi in the top 35 or 40.
NGL Big Wheel is Big Fun
Removing colours from the board doesnt sound that great but its very useful.
Adding specials onto this power makes it good
You are right about one thing though she is more of a support character but a very good one.
In current pvp where she and 5witch are boosted matches are quick and easy.
She is very good boosted0 -
Added:SersiBig WheelAbigail BrandElektraCrystalMoon KnightGargantosKamala KhanDisclaimer: I do not have the latter two champed, but am clearly very high on them based on where I ranked them. But my ranking of those two is based on speculation more than anything else. I hope I'm not wrong about the impact I expect them to have on the game as I have very high hopes. Sorry again for the late update (6 months to the date). Had a lot of write-ups, two character rebalances to account for, and the new forum messing with all the formatting that I had to fix.
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Thanks for the update DD217.2
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Thank you for doing this for the community!1
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I appreciate you updating the list. I always to comeback from time to time, to check on who I should go after next. This list have help me a lot in the past. Thank you1
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Thank you!!! Such a great resource.0
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I am glad you updated it! While there won’t be any consensus about the ratings/rankings, it is still a wonderful resource for the player pool!
A minor point: Big wheel damage caps at 20 speed points. It cannot go beyond that, so that places a natural cap on the green and red damage. From your write up, it sounded like it can go up to infinite.1 -
atomzed said:I am glad you updated it! While there won’t be any consensus about the ratings/rankings, it is still a wonderful resource for the player pool!
A minor point: Big wheel damage caps at 20 speed points. It cannot go beyond that, so that places a natural cap on the green and red damage. From your write up, it sounded like it can go up to infinite.1 -
Daredevil217 said:atomzed said:I am glad you updated it! While there won’t be any consensus about the ratings/rankings, it is still a wonderful resource for the player pool!
A minor point: Big wheel damage caps at 20 speed points. It cannot go beyond that, so that places a natural cap on the green and red damage. From your write up, it sounded like it can go up to infinite.0 -
Nice to see the updated rankings here.
A few qualms, I think Gargantos is probably rated too high. His best partner is an old old 5* and I am not seeing him too often in PvP yet.
I also think Jean could move up a few spots. It is probably still too early to rate Kamala but she will certainly be better than the middle of the pack.
Still, great job I really like jumping in here and reading your impressions.0 -
Pleased to see Sersi rated so highly. Imo, she’s easily Shang Chi’s best partner, well ahead of Onslaught. They kill anything quickly and efficiently, boosted or not, and she has tremendous defensive capability when you the player are in control of her. And if there is a more deadly trio than SC, Sersi, Onslaught I have no idea what it is. Even the Sinister, Medusa, Carnage node is quite manageable with them1
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658_2 said:Pleased to see Sersi rated so highly. Imo, she’s easily Shang Chi’s best partner, well ahead of Onslaught. They kill anything quickly and efficiently, boosted or not, and she has tremendous defensive capability when you the player are in control of her. And if there is a more deadly trio than SC, Sersi, Onslaught I have no idea what it is. Even the Sinister, Medusa, Carnage node is quite manageable with them0
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658_2 said:Pleased to see Sersi rated so highly. Imo, she’s easily Shang Chi’s best partner, well ahead of Onslaught. They kill anything quickly and efficiently, boosted or not, and she has tremendous defensive capability when you the player are in control of her. And if there is a more deadly trio than SC, Sersi, Onslaught I have no idea what it is. Even the Sinister, Medusa, Carnage node is quite manageable with them
Personally, I still find 50GladThor/SC to be the quickest pick 2 for me. Obviously horrific on defense but they get going fast.0 -
LavaManLee said:658_2 said:Pleased to see Sersi rated so highly. Imo, she’s easily Shang Chi’s best partner, well ahead of Onslaught. They kill anything quickly and efficiently, boosted or not, and she has tremendous defensive capability when you the player are in control of her. And if there is a more deadly trio than SC, Sersi, Onslaught I have no idea what it is. Even the Sinister, Medusa, Carnage node is quite manageable with them
Personally, I still find 50GladThor/SC to be the quickest pick 2 for me. Obviously horrific on defense but they get going fast.Jftr, I skipped Cyclops. I don’t see how he tops her on paper, but obviously many think he’s excellent with SC, so maybe I just don’t get it.1 -
I use Sersi a lot. She is a great slot in third on many teams. She does pair well with Shang chi it just takes a while to get them going.
She is good for ap denial. She is good for board manipulation and with the right team she does good damage with the match 5 bonus0
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