Sim Day 3: How the HELL do you beat BRB, Garbage & Hela?!?!

The Viceroy Returns

I have all the meta 5's champed except Apocalypse.

ANY PVE fight with 5* Garbage is easily one of the most frustrating things in this game, but THIS one takes the cake.

I've even tried 3* Deadpool with Purple boosts, but 2 times in a row he died the turn BEFORE I had enough Purple because he jumps in front all the time because the 5 * I use to tank Purple takes too much damage by even like turn 5 or 6.

I also tried Okoye & 4 Deadpool, but he can't take down BRB fast enough.

And this is only the FIRST clear on CL 10.

How do people beat this fight?!  I'm anything but a novice here, but I've never had as much trouble on a node as this fight.  This is on the list of "just ignore" PVE fights (there are a few in Comic Chaos).

BriMan2222

Brb, polaris, one star juggernaut.  +2 green ap boost and +2 all ap boosts.  Focus on matching shields and/or Green and star firing off juggs green.  Hopefully you can get the winfinite going before brb gets downed by match damage.

entrailbucket

Hawkeye/Coulson/Dr Strange, boost blue

ThaRoadWarrior

Yellowjacket +as much blue, black, and green as you can bring in with you, and then whoever else you really don’t care about. Then just go invisible and chase black and green.

I was using Thorkoye+ Morbius some, but my morbius is waiting on iso so he only has a few thousand health

BlackBoltRocks

ThaRoadWarrior said:

Yellowjacket +as much blue, black, and green as you can bring in with you, and then whoever else you really don’t care about. Then just go invisible and chase black and green.

Except that invisiblity doesn't do anything against attacks that hit random enemies or AoE, which is exactly what Bill's and Hela's Green are.

HoundofShadow

This team has aoe and random attack. It's pretty risky to use invisible strategy. 

Polaris/BRB/Juggernaut + whatever supports that boosts green ap. Remember to set her stun to 4 turns. That extra turn can be a lifesaver.


If you want to use Whales, bring Colossus/Wanda/3* deadpool or whoever + whales teamup. Colossus reduces match damage by 83% and Wanda will reduce damage of enemy attack tiles by at least 40%.

TheRiddler

BriMan2222 said:

Brb, polaris, one star juggernaut.  +2 green ap boost and +2 all ap boosts.  Focus on matching shields and/or Green and star firing off juggs green.  Hopefully you can get the winfinite going before brb gets downed by match damage.

You can also use supports like Atlantis that give you more Green AP at the start of the match.

Another tip is also to retreat out of the match early if there are no protects to match in the first round or two.

But I think I beat this team twice and said that was good enough.

acescracked

I liked brb/polaris/4* thanos best. You alternate between thanos & brb green while firing brb blue some to speed up damage.

JimboJambo

I'm a bit late to this but BRB, Kitty, Polaris worked for me. Boost +2 blue and +2 all. Sometimes carnage matches blue for you on the first turn so you can stun him immediately. One bit of advice that I read on another challenge node thread - if the board isn't good then be prepared to retreat early rather than trying to battle it out.

DAZ0273

BRB/Polaris/Th4nos is reliable although Carbage teams might pose the biggest threat to getting your winfinite going - you need BRB to dig in until you can stun Carbage. Hela further complicates matters as she starts punishing you once you hit 10 in green so you will want to stun her too before you attempt your winfinite or otherwise suck up the damage and keep going (in this case 1* Juggernaut has the cheaper option green power but only half the board destruction). Th4nos will help with enemy special tiles though as once there are at least 5 he will start to passively remove them circumventing BRB's AP generation.

Srheer0

The Viceroy Returns said:

I have all the meta 5's champed except Apocalypse.

ANY PVE fight with 5* Garbage is easily one of the most frustrating things in this game, but THIS one takes the cake.

I've even tried 3* Deadpool with Purple boosts, but 2 times in a row he died the turn BEFORE I had enough Purple because he jumps in front all the time because the 5 * I use to tank Purple takes too much damage by even like turn 5 or 6.

I also tried Okoye & 4 Deadpool, but he can't take down BRB fast enough.

And this is only the FIRST clear on CL 10.

How do people beat this fight?!  I'm anything but a novice here, but I've never had as much trouble on a node as this fight.  This is on the list of "just ignore" PVE fights (there are a few in Comic Chaos).

One man's C5rbage is another mans treasure.  

Maybe when people stop calling him garbage he will get the respect the deserves

Rosraf

I beat them 3-4 with Okoye, Polaris, Medusa. 

Need a bit of luck, but once the specials tiles are everywhere, Medusa generates plenty of AP & health. 

If you get Polaris' stun well before BRB has green power ready, stun Carbage but take out BRB first. 

ThaRoadWarrior

Scuttlebutt can’t be fired if you’re last man standing and inviz, same with Hela’s green since it needs a target in order to fire. I should have been more clear that you need your wingpersons to die on purpose and solo it. While Inviz, YJ’s powers avoid protects, so it isn’t as much a grind as it sounds since everything is 20k or so. Just saying how I did it.

HoundofShadow

Carbage can do AoE with his red power. I guess it's still a little risky. I don't know how much damage he deals at that level but YellowJacket could heal up from his AoE if it doesn't one-shot him. 

Edit: Yellowjacket can destroy up to 3 enemy attack/strike/protect tiles with his green. That's probably why his red can't be upgraded to an AoE because he needs 4 special friendly tile on the board.

DAZ0273

That is weird with BRB's Skuttlebutt.

Skuttlebutt:

Beta Ray Bill's faithful warship Skuttlebutt unleashes a devastating bombardment that leaves his opponents reeling. Deals 1492 damage to 3 random enemies.

Skuttlebutt can double dip on who it hits randomly and I am pretty sure can be fired with less than 3 enemies left but I have also witnessed it "miss" an invisible enemy.

Apocalypse Forged in Fire

Success requires sacrifice, and all will feel its burdens. Apocalypse destroys up to 4 friendly Protect tiles, dealing one hit of 2260 damage to a random enemy for each one.

So what is the difference between these two wording because I am fairly certain Apocalypse can hit invisible characters even if they are the only one left? Could be wrong I guess. So why can't Bill?

ThaRoadWarrior

I think Carbage still needs a primary target, same as Hela. I usually kill him first though, so maybe I just got him before it was relevant?

I can’t really speak on the difference between Apocalypse’s black and Scuttlebutt though, except to think the primary effect is destroying the tiles rather than choosing an enemy to target? Like I don’t think it can be fired if Thano5’s purple is in play, which it ought to be able to do if the damage were independent of the tile destruction.

DAZ0273

I think I can follow your line of thinking. So with Bill, he needs somebody to target but Apocalypse doesn't because he isn't actually targeting anybody, he is targeting the protect shield which then deals the damage and is not restrained by an invisible status. As long as the protect tiles are destroyed the damage is going to hit and you can't avoid it apart from being airbourne. Thanos purple does shut down firing both Apoc's yellow and black (but not red). It all adds up for me.

Also - Hela checks out too -

The great wolf Fenris lunges at Hela's foes, snapping and gnawing in frenzy. Deals 3719 damage to the target and 2 hits of 2426 damage to random enemies.

The random part can't happen unless the primary part does and if there are no targets available...

I wanna give Kudo's to Road Warrior here for a strategy that is pretty clever as long as you can get invisible and stay that way. I never would have figured YJ for a CL10 Challenge Node buster.

gravel

Okoye/Thor/Polaris +2 Blue/Purple +2 All AP.  Make a blue match ASAP, stun Carnage.  Stun others as needed, don't let them get enough green to fire either green power.

Punter1

Crazy that I have all the boosted 5*s and I went with the BRB/Thano4/Polaris winfinite for that node!  Having the enemy BRB helps a little to get started, but still need to bring boosts and get Carnage stunned quick.

ThaRoadWarrior

DAZ0273 said:

I think I can follow your line of thinking. So with Bill, he needs somebody to target but Apocalypse doesn't because he isn't actually targeting anybody, he is targeting the protect shield which then deals the damage and is not restrained by an invisible status. As long as the protect tiles are destroyed the damage is going to hit and you can't avoid it apart from being airbourne. Thanos purple does shut down firing both Apoc's yellow and black (but not red). It all adds up for me.

Also - Hela checks out too -

The great wolf Fenris lunges at Hela's foes, snapping and gnawing in frenzy. Deals 3719 damage to the target and 2 hits of 2426 damage to random enemies.

The random part can't happen unless the primary part does and if there are no targets available...

I wanna give Kudo's to Road Warrior here for a strategy that is pretty clever as long as you can get invisible and stay that way. I never would have figured YJ for a CL10 Challenge Node buster.

I wrapped him with Profslaught, and it wasn't foolproof - if he ate it before the other two did, it wasn't going to work. In one attempt, I was down to just Onslaught, and because his inviz is tied to a board condition (traps in play), it was too easy for him to drop out and get creamed. Onslaught does slap pretty hard once the board is flooded with enemy specials on blue though. Yellowjacket is perhaps unique in that his Inviz isn't tied to anything the oppenent can manage aside from his ability to match his own colors.

GrimSkald

Srheer0 said:

The Viceroy Returns said:

I have all the meta 5's champed except Apocalypse.

ANY PVE fight with 5* Garbage is easily one of the most frustrating things in this game, but THIS one takes the cake.

I've even tried 3* Deadpool with Purple boosts, but 2 times in a row he died the turn BEFORE I had enough Purple because he jumps in front all the time because the 5 * I use to tank Purple takes too much damage by even like turn 5 or 6.

I also tried Okoye & 4 Deadpool, but he can't take down BRB fast enough.

And this is only the FIRST clear on CL 10.

How do people beat this fight?!  I'm anything but a novice here, but I've never had as much trouble on a node as this fight.  This is on the list of "just ignore" PVE fights (there are a few in Comic Chaos).

One man's C5rbage is another mans treasure.  

Maybe when people stop calling him garbage he will get the respect the deserves

"Carbage" is very distinctly an anti-special tile specialist who works best when his own team boosts specials (i.e. with Kitty.)  As such he's really pretty good, people really underestimated him when he came out.

I used Hawkeye/Coulson/Gamora.  Since Hawkeye is boosted, he tanks literally everything and unless you're very unlucky you can usually have the other team stun-locked by turn 3 or 4.  I must say, I used to use Hawkeye/Couson/WorthyCap for nodes like these, which was sometimes pretty unreliable (WorthyCap could be downed in a single turn sometimes,) his nerf turned me on to the above team, and it's actually better...